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Right wing extremist group behind Dublin Protest say Gardai

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    #152
    SuperSean11
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    biko wrote: »
    But the firework was produced only after the blockade, not before.

    I don’t think it appeared from thin air


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    #153
    [Deleted User]
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    An interesting report here from a photographer at the scene. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-trying-to-get-footage-but-the-fireworks-and-bottles-kept-coming-inm-videographer-on-anti-lockdown-protest-chaos-40141096.html


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    #154
    Zatoichi
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    An interesting report here from a photographer at the scene. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-trying-to-get-footage-but-the-fireworks-and-bottles-kept-coming-inm-videographer-on-anti-lockdown-protest-chaos-40141096.html

    There was a strong smell of cider and cannabis in the air
    That says it all really.


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    #155
    kildare lad
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    Maybe they should have had the protest under the guide of being a BLM demonstration and the gardai would have left them alone. I know 3 people that went to it and none are far- right as you're led to believe. They're just are sick and tired of this endless lockdown. I can't go 5 km outside of town , my son has no school and all he's gaa and football has been cancelled since before xmas and yet 110, 000 people passed through Dublin airport in the last month. Can someone explain to me where's the logic in that, The government have made an absolute mess of this and people have a pain in their arse with it.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-response-almost-12-000-flew-into-dublin-airport-in-first-week-of-february-1.4479566

    Department of Transport figures show that 110,930 passengers passed through Dublin Airport in January, 60 per cent of whom were travelling for non-essential purposes. Almost 64,000 people arrived in Dublin in the first 16 days of the month before proof of a negative PCR test – the standard test used to the detect the virus – was required.


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    #156
    Dyr
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    An interesting report here from a photographer at the scene. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-trying-to-get-footage-but-the-fireworks-and-bottles-kept-coming-inm-videographer-on-anti-lockdown-protest-chaos-40141096.html

    He's a vdeographer, apparently not a very good one as he only has a verbal account rather than...video. :o


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    #157
    walshb
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    Right wing left wing nonsense.

    Just a crowd of toerags out to cause trouble...

    Vast majority probably couldn’t even spell Covid!!


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    #158
    smurgen
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    alchemist33 wrote: »
    Its hilarious to read this thread at the same time as the Drew Harris with posters getting very excited to see Republicans or Right wingers blamed for it. Hopefully most us don't care which scumbags are responsible as long as some of them are put away and the rest can't do it again.

    Mental take from the Justice Minister.
    This is Trumpian.

    https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1366013343614525445?s=19


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    #159
    ExMachina1000
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    kildare lad wrote: »
    Maybe they should have had the protest under the guide of being a BLM demonstration and the gardai would have left them alone. I know 3 people that went to it and none are far- right as you're led to believe. They're just are sick and tired of this endless lockdown. I can't go 5 km outside of town , my son has no school and all he's gaa and football has been cancelled since before xmas and yet 110, 000 people passed through Dublin airport in the last month. Can someone explain to me where's the logic in that, The government have made an absolute mess of this and people have a pain in their arse with it.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-response-almost-12-000-flew-into-dublin-airport-in-first-week-of-february-1.4479566

    Department of Transport figures show that 110,930 passengers passed through Dublin Airport in January, 60 per cent of whom were travelling for non-essential purposes. Almost 64,000 people arrived in Dublin in the first 16 days of the month before proof of a negative PCR test – the standard test used to the detect the virus – was required.

    They are using the actions of the few thugs to tar and feather all of the protestors.
    Paint everyone who attended to be a criminal or scumbag. Keep the government line going. Anyone who disagrees must be "far right "

    Boom it out across the airwaves and print media. Interview politicians and police. Make it an us v them situation.

    Wasnt a peep during blm protests.


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    #160
    sabat
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    Zatoichi wrote: »
    That says it all really.

    Really? People were not only drinking cider, but so much cider that you could actually smell it in the air? Does that sound true or is it a not-so-subtle classist smear?


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    #161
    Zatoichi
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    sabat wrote: »
    Really? People were not only drinking cider, but so much cider that you could actually smell it in the air? Does that sound true or is it a not-so-subtle classist smear?


    I'd say it's more likely they were throwing half empty bottles of it, or just enough left over to cause the stench.


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    #162
    biko
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    Zatoichi wrote: »
    There was a strong smell of cider and cannabis in the air
    That says it all really.
    That English West Country hippies have arrived? :D


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    #163
    kildare lad
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    They are using the actions of the few thugs to tar and feather all of the protestors.
    Paint everyone who attended to be a criminal or scumbag. Keep the government line going. Anyone who disagrees must be "far right "

    Boom it out across the airwaves and print media. Interview politicians and police. Make it an us v them situation.

    Wasnt a peep during blm protests.

    Ye the gardai didn't seem to keen to arrest anyone when they were stopping traffic and beating people up or when shoppers had to barricade themselves in a shop while the protesters were shouting " white bastards " at the people inside . Strange that


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    #164
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    biko wrote: »
    But the firework was produced only after the blockade, not before.

    By public amenities, do you mean the park? Why didn't Gard just close the park then? There are gates.

    No, there were more than the one firework being let off.
    The park was closed


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    #165
    Zatoichi
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Zatoichi


    biko wrote: »
    That English West Country hippies have arrived? :D


    You go where the folk music brings you.

    4nVbw4zz


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    #166
    Sonic the Shaghog
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    Zatoichi wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0228/1199831-dublin-protests/



    Previously connected to far-left groups but we received alot of complaints from twitter so they're far-right now. On ya go.

    They are actually saying they were far left who have now moved to the far right?

    What utter scutter. In other words it was a mix of nutters from all positions with various levels of paranoia, conspiracies and just wanted an excuse to be violent and cause damage like the malcontents live for.


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    #167
    James Brown
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Leo calling it what it was, a riot.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40235042.html

    “The violence on the streets of Dublin on Saturday was “not a protest, it was a riot” according to Tánaiste Leo Varadkar. In the Sunday Times, some protestors in Dublin yesterday were asked why they were protesting or how it was linked to RTÉ, the state broadcaster.
    Those quoted outlined a conspiracy theory that involved babies being killed and harvested for “adrenochrome” which is used to keep RTE celebrities “looking young” while the corpses are buried under the new children’s hospital.
    The two claimed the government were “basically paedophiles” and that there were videos explaining this on a website known for hosting far-right speakers and conspiracy theories.
    Mr Varadkar said such commentary was “bonkers” and similar to the kind of conspiracy theories heard from far-right supporters in the United States.
    He said social media platforms should take down or stop messaging which promotes extreme or illegal activity.”

    He's an opportunist.
    He'll abuse mother and baby home survivors on the one hand and pretend to be outraged about a protest on the other. The man is a dishonest chancer.
    Another case of the right trying to close down and demonise the public who protest.
    We must respect protesters even when we disagree.
    Any law breakers need to be arrested of course.
    Varadkar needs to know his place, a public representative not a self interested mouth piece.


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    #168
    Rodney Bathgate
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    I thought it was a largely peaceful protest?


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    #169
    Parachutes
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    If you want things to go back to normal you're a 'right wing extremist'


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    #170
    suicide_circus
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    If it was a riot it was the lamest most half assed riot ever caught on camera


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    #171
    James Brown
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    If it was a riot it was the lamest most half assed riot ever caught on camera

    They called the water protesters 'ISIS' ffs...


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    #172
    Whatisthisnow
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    Zatoichi wrote: »
    That says it all really.

    There's always a smell of canabis in the city centre. The Govt, courts and council are the reason for all junkies n scumbags roaming the streets.


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    #173
    Annasopra
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    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    I thought it was a largely peaceful protest?

    Yeah. Apart from all the abuse thrown at the Gardai, Apart from all the bottles and other missiles thrown at the gardai, apart from a Gardas ankle being broken, apart from a Garda having a damaged eardrum, apart from a Garda being thrown off a horse, apart from fireworks being thrown at Gardai, apart from 23 people arrested.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #174
    [Deleted User]
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    Parachutes wrote: »
    If you want things to go back to normal you're a 'right wing extremist'

    Everybody wants things to go back to normal 🙄


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    #175
    Rodney Bathgate
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Yeah. Apart from all the abuse thrown at the Gardai, Apart from all the bottles and other missiles thrown at the gardai, apart from a Gardas ankle being broken, apart from a Garda having a damaged eardrum, apart from a Garda being thrown off a horse, apart from fireworks being thrown at Gardai, apart from 23 people arrested.

    You clearly missed the sarcasm. The term ‘largely peaceful protest’ has regularly been used to describe BLM protests that included rioting and looting.


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    #176
    Sonic the Shaghog
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    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    You clearly missed the sarcasm. The term ‘largely peaceful protest’ has regularly been used to describe BLM protests that included rioting and looting.

    Joey misses a lot when it suits tbh


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    #177
    nullzero
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Yeah. Apart from all the abuse thrown at the Gardai, Apart from all the bottles and other missiles thrown at the gardai, apart from a Gardas ankle being broken, apart from a Garda having a damaged eardrum, apart from a Garda being thrown off a horse, apart from fireworks being thrown at Gardai, apart from 23 people arrested.

    It was appalling stuff and should rightly be condemned.

    Now if we can all remember this next time a left wing group does the same thing we might just be learning something.

    Glazers Out!



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    #178
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    biko wrote: »
    By public amenities, do you mean the park? Why didn't Gard just close the park then? There are gates.

    There are indeed, so what? None of that changes that the protest happened did it not? And that Gardai and the council can curtail public access to locations when needs be in the interests of public safety for one.

    'Gardai' or 'Guards' please. I know its a minor issue but I cant stant this weird hybrid 'Gard' that people use.


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    #179
    Snake Plisken
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    biko wrote: »
    Maybe I've missed something in the articles but have anyone expressed why Garda stopped the demonstration?
    Usually demonstrations don't need a permit in Ireland.

    Strange alright usually they go to keep the peace between the Antifa)Lefty/NGO boys trying to get at the protesters. Was there intelligence that far left groups were going to turn up thus the statement by.Harris?


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    #180
    Rodney Bathgate
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    James Brown wrote: »
    They called the water protesters 'ISIS' ffs...

    Who is ‘they’ exactly?

    A single FG backbench TD who subsequently retracted the statement a day later?


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    #181
    doublejobbing 2
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    Would I be right in saying that:

    - There were no arrests in Blanch at New Year's, Gardai effectively stood down

    - Not a single minister or perhaps a TD full stop issued a strong condemnation of neither the violence nor the breaching of Covid gathering rules (I believe Leo issued a statement that was about as harsh as Dougal saying "careful now!"), yet today Leo, Harris, McEntee, MLMCD, MM have all thrown in their fivers worth

    - that to date nobody has been retroactively arrested for the US Embassy protests, despite the names of the organisers being common knowledge

    Whether you agreed with yesterday's protest or not, Ireland is now a two tiered state when it comes to enforcing the law.


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