WWE Raw Superthread

CastorTroy

I still get mixed up when I hear the beginning of Drew's and Sheamus' entrances. They sound similar

beakerjoe

Raw was awful and Im at the point where I wont be attenoting to watch next week. It takes a lot to push me away.

Sheamus and Huberto was the only segment I enjoyed and that was decent rather than great. Everything else is just woeful.

You name it, I hated it and with good cause.

Drew should be straight up feuding with Bobby. Shoehorning Braun is a huge negative on an already unsatisfying feud that could be so much better.

They tear down the Hurt Business for no legit reason. Awful.

The add Corbin...awful.

They place Mace and T Bar into the feud after Corbins dine.... meh.

The add Braun, whos matches and promos havent changed in forever. All predictable, all unnatural and non organic and all boring..... huge go away heat.

Raw is just not worth my time. Id rather watch.... anything.

CastorTroy

So Bray came back for a couple weeks before Mania and disappears again?
I know we have the whole Alexa thing but still

ThePott

This might genuinely be my first time not watching Raw in over 5 years. Caught some clips on Reddit and read what it says, I feel liberated tbh.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/WWETheBump/status/1387412569707712513

A return to feud with RKBro?

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1389263490301546496

J. Marston

A Wrestlemania rematch which will probably lead to another Wrestlemania rematch at Wrestlemania Backlash.

PTH2009

Let's hope New Day don't win here, no need for another tag title reign yet

Omas is 7ft 4 but am I right in thinking he's tied 2nd with Andre the Giant with Giant Gonzaelez at 8ft in the list of tallest wrestlers in wwe/f

PTH2009

Eva Marie finally coming back

JP Liz V1

PTH2009 wrote: »

Eva Marie finally coming back

To boost Raw ratings and help with firings, but who to feud with, pair with?

Agent Coulson

They get rid of Mickie and The IIconics and bring back Eva Maire.

Totally makes sense.

RollieFingers

Does seem a bit strange that they got rid of the likes of Mickie only to bring in Eva Marie. And keep performers like Dana Brooke around, that hand spring elbow corner spot was actually embarrassing to watch.

Still, Lily is around I guess. RAW sucks so much.

J. Marston

Eve bloody Marie. She still sounds like an android.

CastorTroy

So they interview MVP twice about the same match? I know the first time was along with Lashley, but still.

And I find it funny they advertise an exclusive interview with Drew.

Mansoor seems a random choice to bring up out of nowhere. I don't think he's lost a match by pin or submission yet, or not for a long time anyway.

And Eva Marie? Yeah. I'm assuming she struck a deal with regard social media since isn't she active on there?

Ah, Drew Gulak going from working with Bryan and AJ to getting a rose shoved up his a$$.

Oh and is it me or those tomatoes not very rotten looking? I guess WWE just has different definitions. Where rotten = good and good = rotten. So the tomatoes are rotten and Raw is good.

Lithium93_

RollieFingers wrote: »

Does seem a bit strange that they got rid of the likes of Mickie only to bring in Eva Marie. And keep performers like Dana Brooke around, that hand spring elbow corner spot was actually embarrassing to watch.

Still, Lily is around I guess. RAW sucks so much.

https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1389382914090098694

JP Liz V1

Why is Alexa with Lily not in the title hunt?

Cotts72

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why is Alexa with Lily not in the title hunt?

Careful now or they'll have lily become women's champion

PTH2009

Got a giggle of this

https://www.instagram.com/p/COb6K5_MxGb/?igshid=17lsq2fwz8m3e

J. Marston

I hate Braun's beard.

CastorTroy

To be fair to Dana, that's partially on Charlotte who was slow by the look of it. Though Dana should've just gone ahead with the move.
It's like when guys climb to the top rope only to have the plan of jumping down which is then turned into a chokeslam or something that catches them. Can only assume their top rope plans involved a double axe handle

SlickRic

listen, I dip in and out of WWE very rarely nowadays. it's a whole heap of shít, and not aimed at me. so whatever.

Roman Reigns and the Tribal Chief stuff on SD is some of the best stuff they've done in ages, but honestly, that's about it.

but i had to pop in to say...

that Mansoor burial.

for the love of fúcking Christ. the fúcking incompetence of this fúcking company who can never go out of fúcking business because of their fúcking monopoly. they are incredible.

why boot the fúcker and try to get more heat on Sheamus, when he has the biggest win streak in the company? can you not try something with him? can you not even try for a few weeks? why do you have to establish from the outset that he is no threat, at the hands of a guy who is never going to be any more than he is right now - whether he wins or loses; or has a belt or doesn't?

i honestly could not fúcking believe this when I saw it. just trolling idiocy. and i know Vince did it to stick 2 fingers up at the likes of me, to tell me that none of this matters because it's all 'entertainment', but good God.

but Vince can't lose, so he'll never get his comeuppance for this fúcking nonsense.

Loughc

Lithium93_ wrote: »

https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1389382914090098694

https://twitter.com/murphburner/status/1389383997772402688?s=21

The White Wolf

Any sign of Bray?

Itssoeasy

So can Eva Marie wrestle even somewhat decently now ?

Itssoeasy

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope New Day don't win here, no need for another tag title reign yet

Omas is 7ft 4 but am I right in thinking he's tied 2nd with Andre the Giant with Giant Gonzaelez at 8ft in the list of tallest wrestlers in wwe/f

Giant Gonzales wasn’t 8ft tall. He’s in the Guinness book of records at 7 ft 7(still very very tall) and given he played in the NBA we know his real height. Just going on the wrestle mania III staredown andre doesn’t look 7 inches taller than hogan going by wwe supposed heights. I realise I’m trying to add logic to pro wrestling but it’s still important to note it.

JP Liz V1

Cotts72 wrote: »

Careful now or they'll have lily become women's champion

I'll take Lily as champ over many of the other Raw female roster

Get Bray dressed as Lily back as the champ

Agent Coulson

I want to see Omas vs Azeez main event WrestleMania 38 in a Hell in a Cell, TLC, 60 minute Ironman.

ThePott

Second week not watching Raw. Wondering if those Youtube Highlight compilations are a decent substitute.

I see they dusted off the old Emma-lina gimmick for Eva Marie. FFS, didn't even sound like a decent promo when it was pre-recorded. This is less hype train and more train wreck already.

Is Sonya Deville basically a corrupt official on Charlotte's side now? Did Garza shove a rose up Gulak's hole? Are they splitting up Shelton and Cedric already so they can have a stock feud and then never use either of them as is tradition? Also, where's the Fiend? Have they just replaced him with Alexa now?

They gave Mansoor this big long streak, called him up and then immediately ended it. How creative. Wonder if he'll even be used again.

I hope at the very least that avoiding Raw till the PPV might make the match-ups seem fresh because it seems like it's just Bobby/Drew/Braun ad naseum.
Honestly if Raw wasn't so boring it would be some sort of subversive deconstructionist art.

J. Marston

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So can Eva Marie wrestle even somewhat decently now ?

She's been training in secret for years under the apprenticeship of a cabal of Joshi legends.

But in all seriousness, she's 36. She isn't suddenly gonna get good now. So if she wrestles we'll see more of this...



Better to try her in a Scarlett, Zelina, Lana role. But she's so wooden even that will be a struggle.

jk23

J. Marston wrote: »

She's been training in secret for years under the apprenticeship of a cabal of Joshi legends.

But in all seriousness, she's 36. She isn't suddenly gonna get good now. So if she wrestles we'll see more of this...



Better to try her in a Scarlett, Zelina, Lana role. But she's so wooden even that will be a struggle.

See Layla in that clip, really liked her and she was found in that diva search in the mid 00s but improved alot as a wrestler and is still relatively young...

Necro

How is Dana Brooke still employed, she's patently awful. Not even any sign of improvement in how many years now? The handspring fail isn't even surprising

HOW is Raw so shockingly bad and Smackdown so far ahead of it?

Is it the writers? Is it the fact they have to go 3hrs so fill it with nonsense? Is it Vince?

I can't understand how they're so far apart in terms of quality.

Like how do you go from a polished main event in Reigns VS Bryan to the absolute sh1tfest that the entire 3hrs of Raw is now? I'm genuinely baffled.

I think I'm gonna follow ThePott and just drop Raw altogether.

CastorTroy

Have to laugh at how awkward it seems to have to keep saying "wrestlemania Backlash" every time. It's like the one that had the Horror Show subtitle.

I would assume they won't get away with Eva Marie's gimmick from her last stint of avoiding matches through wardrobe malfunctions

JP Liz V1

J. Marston wrote: »

She's been training in secret for years under the apprenticeship of a cabal of Joshi legends.

But in all seriousness, she's 36. She isn't suddenly gonna get good now. So if she wrestles we'll see more of this...



Better to try her in a Scarlett, Zelina, Lana role. But she's so wooden even that will be a struggle.

I thought older are her mic skills poor? Is she gone from Total Divas? I barely remember

PTH2009

I see Jinder is back with a new stable a takeaway from it is another 'tall guy'

https://twitter.com/HunterPWWE5/status/1389410045423759366?s=20

Have to feel sorry for Jeff Hardy though

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1391450873721757700

CastorTroy

If that's the match they're using to promote Raw, then it's not a good sign

JP Liz V1

Drew Vs. Bobby is the main event I assume

CastorTroy

Also saw that New Day and RKBro are against AJ, Omos, Elias and Ryker

JP Liz V1

CastorTroy wrote: »

Also saw that New Day and RKBro are against AJ, Omos, Elias and Ryker

Omos to dismantle Riddle like a rag doll then boom Randy hits an RKO on Omos (is that even possible with his height)

I assume RKBro will go for the Raw tag titles

PTH2009

Christ an episode of raw these days are like a dreaded chore

PTH2009

6 women's tag match kicking off the show yawn

JP Liz V1

Alexa after Reg?

PTH2009

Jeff Hardy jobbing out to the Jinder Mahal and his new group

PTH2009

AJ Styles with a glouris goatee

Lord TSC

That bump from Sheamus and Carrillo looked nasty. The way Carrillo immediatly looked to the camera and those behind it to wave off the match looked bad. Hope its nothing major, but it looked bad.

B.A._Baracus

Lord TSC wrote: »

That bump from Sheamus and Carrillo looked nasty. The way Carrillo immediatly looked to the camera and those behind it to wave off the match looked bad. Hope its nothing major, but it looked bad.

Here is the video in question for people who wanna see it: (a better slow-mo clip at 35 seconds in)

https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1391930685536022534

Looks nasty.
On one hand, it's Sheamus' fault. He is bumping on him. You can see his left arm move out for a bump as soon as he goes. Normally, you could say whats the problem? but it's a sunset. He barely waited for clearance (if any) and barely sailed back. Just worried about his own bump. That much is clear. Sheamus is so worried about his own fall here.

On the other hand, Sheamus would be a nutter to totally jump back and clip his neck/head off the announcers table. Carrillo should have had a better base. We've all seen sunsets to the outside. The guy giving jumps over and practically stands like he is giving a powerbomb.

Further problem is, even if Carrillo tried to do that would Sheamus have even given him time. Couldn't wait to take his bump. My takeaway is that Carrillo should have done it better but Sheamus was always gonna land on him. Sheamus could have been waiting on the apron that bit more and told him hook me tighter. Then go into it.


That's pretty unsafe.

Lithium93_

PTH2009 wrote: »

Christ an episode of raw these days are like a dreaded chore

You're only coming to this conclusion now?

CastorTroy

Nah when I saw the replay, it looked like Carrillo's left leg went, maybe even broke. Sheamus likely couldn't stop himself landing on the leg of Carrillo stopped controlling him.
In my opinion

So first we get the Eva Marie return announcement and now Jinder is back. WWE pulling out all the stops. :rolleyes:

The White Wolf

Eva Marie's return and what looks to be her gimmick is just indicative of their problems; they want heat but it's the completely wrong sort of heat.

J. Marston

The White Wolf wrote: »

Eva Marie's return and what looks to be her gimmick is just indicative of their problems; they want heat but it's the completely wrong sort of heat.

What's the right sort of heat? If people get the specific kind of heat they want then how is that the right heat if they are satisfied with it?