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  • 08-03-2021 1:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭


    Hey,

    Looking for a bit of advice on what we should do.

    Have savings of approx €400,000, no debts or properties.

    We are going to build a house which QS said will be around the 400 mark.

    Should we go half and half mortgage and savings or bigger mortgage and invest savings?

    Thanks.

    We won't be earning as much in the future as we won't be working as much, we have been flat to the mat to save this much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Fol20


    Hey,

    Looking for a bit of advice on what we should do.

    Have savings of approx €400,000, no debts or properties.

    We are going to build a house which QS said will be around the 400 mark.

    Should we go half and half mortgage and savings or bigger mortgage and invest savings?

    Thanks.

    We won't be earning as much in the future as we won't be working as much, we have been flat to the mat to save this much.

    Get the largest loan you can afford. Do not invest anything until the dust settles and you complete the build. The more cash you have left over the better as builds can always have more costs and you should have a contingency of circa 20pc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Get the largest loan you can afford. Do not invest anything until the dust settles and you complete the build. The more cash you have left over the better as builds can always have more costs and you should have a contingency of circa 20pc.

    Yea, I'm afraid the costs will blow up, but QS is confident he can keep it under budget and not let it run away.

    Going for just above 230 mortgage and finish the house as we can after it's sealed up.

    Then hopefully invest the rest and add to pensions and a rainy day fund.

    Some people say max out mortgage and invest savings instead but don't want a huge mortgage when we can avoid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Yea, I'm afraid the costs will blow up, but QS is confident he can keep it under budget and not let it run away.

    Going for just above 230 mortgage and finish the house as we can after it's sealed up.

    Then hopefully invest the rest and add to pensions and a rainy day fund.

    Some people say max out mortgage and invest savings instead but don't want a huge mortgage when we can avoid it.

    Make sure you get a mortgage where there is no penalty for paying off some of the lump sum.

    When the house is finished, if you find yourself with surplus funds the best thing for most people would be to reduce the mortgage.

    It will be difficult to find investments that will return more than you will save by paying off the mortgage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Q&A


    I'd echo the previous advice. Max the mortgage and pay off what you can afterwards. Yes it'll cost you a little more but consider it an insurance policy. You want to avoid having to go back looking for money for overruns.

    If you go with a mortgage provider who offers cashback it might be financially beneficial to over borrow especially if you know you can pay back the money reasonably quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Get the big mortgage.

    Better to be looking at it than looking for it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭markjbloggs


    Q&A wrote: »
    I'd echo the previous advice. Max the mortgage and pay off what you can afterwards. Yes it'll cost you a little more but consider it an insurance policy. You want to avoid having to go back looking for money for overruns.

    If you go with a mortgage provider who offers cashback it might be financially beneficial to over borrow especially if you know you can pay back the money reasonably quickly.

    Why ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    There won't be any over run, 400 is the budget and that's that.

    That's one thing I'm adamant about, if any else is required it can be done over the years after the build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,503 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    There won't be any over run, 400 is the budget and that's that.

    That's one thing I'm adamant about, if any else is required it can be done over the years after the build.

    Not the right approach, how often will the QS come on site to make sure its not overrunning: weekly? I doubt it
    what happens when you dig the founds and you find the need to use piles?
    So what happens if the thing is 3/4 built and you have spent the 400?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Get a mortgage you can afford, then after the dust settles pay as much off as you are comfortable with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Not the right approach, how often will the QS come on site to make sure its not overrunning: weekly? I doubt it
    what happens when you dig the founds and you find the need to use piles?
    So what happens if the thing is 3/4 built and you have spent the 400?

    I'm not building the children's hospital, prices have been received from sub contractors and material suppliers.

    The QS estimate is for a high standard finish, cut backs can be made at any stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Get the largest loan you can afford. Do not invest anything until the dust settles and you complete the build. The more cash you have left over the better as builds can always have more costs and you should have a contingency of circa 20pc.

    This is what we did.

    I would say that the “do the bare minimum to move in and the rest later” approach can mean the rest doesn’t get done for a very long time. I know a lot of people who have done this and were still working on the house 10 years later and ended up spending more money in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    bee06 wrote: »
    This is what we did.

    I would say that the “do the bare minimum to move in and the rest later” approach can mean the rest doesn’t get done for a very long time. I know a lot of people who have done this and were still working on the house 10 years later and ended up spending more money in the long run.

    I had relatives who did this, and "the rest" didn't get done until just before the place was sold, 25 years later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I had relatives who did this, and "the rest" didn't get done until just before the place was sold, 25 years later

    My partner won't let that happen, she'd move out if it wasn't finished within a year of moving in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    My partner won't let that happen, she'd move out if it wasn't finished within a year of moving in.

    Jakers!


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