If we had similar laws to US would you own a gun?

Manic Moran

ShatterAlan wrote: »

I've always asked this question and can never get a logical asnwer.


Why do one own a gun or guns? And you NEVER get an answer other than the usual excuses.


You own guns because (a) they make you feel somewhat empowered and (b) you like them.

It’s a fair question, but I question your answer.

I’m my case, they have a practical use for defense of self, family and home, and they are also plain enjoyable sporting equipment as a hobby. I have not been one for hunting, myself.

The excuses for owning a gun in the US are (i) for personal protection and (ii) for "hunting"

I find your use of the word “excuse” illuminating. Does one need an “excuse” for everything one does? What’s my “excuse” for getting a pilot’s license, or having more than four cylinders in my car engine? Can one not simply decide to do something?

I thought the original reason for being armed was to defend against a tyrannical government...even though that's a myth. It was codified so that supporters from the colonies wouldn't be left behind.

If you want to look at the history of of it, the SCOTUS opinion in Heller gives a good background dating to British jurisprudence.

I haven't seen too many armed Americans take up arms no matter what happens to their fellow citizens.

Has the US become that dysfunctional that it is required to a level beyond local incidents which make nothing more than local news?

Hunting is for necessity not for fun. Innuits hunt seals. Indigenous jungle tribes hunt boars and monkeys and it takes a while to win the hunt. They don't catch they don't eat. Whether they are using traps, spears, arrows. The American "hunter" doesn't shoot a bear or a deer or a caribou, then he stops off with his mates on the way home for a steak and a load of booze.

As mentioned, I’m not one for hunting myself, but given the prevalence of it as an activity around the world, even in places where meat is available at the corner store, I am unconvinced that you opinion matches predominance. In addition, large amount of game is hunting to cull populations. Hogs, for example. Though lots of other critters can be culled.

If you need to kill an animal and eat it to survive then you are a hunter. If you do it for entertainment and try to say that you are some kind of rugged frontiersman...then you are just full of shit

There is a moral argument that if we are going to eat meat, we should be capable of going through the whole process from killing to skinning to butchering, instead of just going to Superquinn. Not sure I entirely agree, but I do see the point.

85603

i can own a gun.

i dont right now because as the jim jefferies bit goes 'sometimes we all get sad'.

2011

85603 wrote: »

i can own a gun.

Maybe, maybe not.
If you want to legally possess a firearm in Ireland expect to have to jump through a lot of hoops first due to some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world.

Feisar

2011 wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not.
If you want to legally possess a firearm in Ireland expect to have to jump through a lot of hoops first due to some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world.

I don't find our laws to bad in fairness. But then they are what I am used to.