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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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    #4802
    Ckendrick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Going to be a very very difficult few days for Harry. Lots of long silences I’d imagine. Everyone knows now that everything they say will be noted and repeated to ‘Er Indoors.
    And it may be repeated in some future cringe inducing “pity poor me” interview on US TG.
    So best thing is to say nothing of any importance.
    If he’s not wincing right now as he makes his travel arrangements at his stating in that awful interview that he feels sorry for his brother and his father then I’d have to conclude that he’s really rather stupid.


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    #4803
    Leg End Reject
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    Be right back wrote: »
    I wonder was it really her decision (and her doctor's) not to travel? Maybe she was asked to stay away.

    It's a royal funeral, the Queen decides the guest list. It's unlikely she made the cut after the interview. Sometimes when you make you bed you have to lie in it.

    If Meghan was there it would have distracted from the funeral. It's meant to be about Philip, his life and his role in the royal family. If Meghan was there it would be a circus so it stands to reason she couldn't be there.
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    #4804
    [Deleted User]
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    Be right back wrote: »
    I wonder was it really her decision (and her doctor's) not to travel? Maybe she was asked to stay away.

    She was able to fly from London to New York at a similar stage of pregnancy for a baby shower, but not for her grandfather in law’s funeral.


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    #4805
    Ckendrick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Be right back wrote: »
    I wonder was it really her decision (and her doctor's) not to travel? Maybe she was asked to stay away.

    Harry knew that his wife wouldn’t be going to his grandfathers funeral as a direct consequence of that interview.
    He knew that when his father told him that the end was nigh some weeks ago.
    Philip only came out of the hospital to die at home like everyone wants.
    The whole family knew it was weeks at the most.
    It’s just very convenient that they are pregnant in a pandemic in California so all awkward press questions can be avoided.
    She didn’t really have any decision to make.


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    #4806
    Ckendrick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    She was able to fly from London to New York at a similar stage of pregnancy for a baby shower, but not for her grandfather in law’s funeral.

    She hadn’t just rubbished her grandparents in law entire family on worldwide TV then.
    She hadn’t had a miscarriage either, nor was there a pandemic.


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    #4807
    PhoenixParker
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    She was able to fly from London to New York at a similar stage of pregnancy for a baby shower, but not for her grandfather in law’s funeral.

    Very different circumstances on multiple levels.

    First London to New York for a brief trip is way less taxing then LA to London for 5-10 days. The time difference is smaller and there's no need to adjust for a 2 day trip. It's way less jarring heading west then East. Flight time is much shorter.

    Then there's a kid who either needs to be brought or needs to be left behind. Bring him and you've a grumpy two year old who has no idea which way is up or down. Leave him and that's traumatic in other ways. On your first kid you can sleep before and after any event, on kid two you can't.

    No way I'd have gone in her circumstances, even if there was no bad blood. It's a grandfather at a good age, and not unexpected.


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    #4808
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    The RF wouldn't want her at the funeral, so its win win.


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    #4809
    Ms2011
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    PhoenixParker wrote: »
    Very different circumstances on multiple levels.

    First London to New York for a brief trip is way less taxing then LA to London for 5-10 days. The time difference is smaller and there's no need to adjust for a 2 day trip. It's way less jarring heading west then East. Flight time is much shorter.

    Then there's a kid who either needs to be brought or needs to be left behind. Bring him and you've a grumpy two year old who has no idea which way is up or down. Leave him and that's traumatic in other ways. On your first kid you can sleep before and after any event, on kid two you can't.

    No way I'd have gone in her circumstances, even if there was no bad blood. It's a grandfather at a good age, and not unexpected.

    Not to mention a previous history of miscarriage this time around and a global pandemic.


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    #4810
    BettyS
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    How do you think that the public will receive Harry? Will there be any encounters with him and Joe Public? Given the level of anger, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is heckled and booed


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    #4811
    buttercups88
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    BettyS wrote: »
    How do you think that the public will receive Harry? Will there be any encounters with him and Joe Public? Given the level of anger, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is heckled and booed

    The whole thing will be in private so there won't be any crowds gathered to heckle and boo.


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    #4812
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Penn wrote: »
    You're criticising her for not travelling.

    If she did travel, ye'd be criticising her for travelling and making it all about her.

    Jaysus folks, let it go. She can't hurt you any more.

    I think her attempting to show her face at the funeral would be a disgrace...after her disgusting behaviour in slating her in laws so publicly.

    I don’t think there is much here: she was never going to be there.

    And likely won’t be at much anything royal anymore..

    That is nothing to do with criticising her travelling or not travelling..


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    #4813
    Deeec
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    PhoenixParker wrote: »


    Then there's a kid who either needs to be brought or needs to be left behind. Bring him and you've a grumpy two year old who has no idea which way is up or down. Leave him and that's traumatic in other ways. On your first kid you can sleep before and after any event, on kid two you can't.

    Poor little Archie probably sees more of his nanny than he does of Megan. Can you honestly see Megs making his dinner, changing his nappies, up with him all night because hes teething, washing his clothes etc - dont think so - she has people to do all of that. Poor little mite is lucky if he sees here for 1 hr per day. I dont think Archie would even realise shes gone!

    Funerals are a hard time for families. It is much better that Megs doesnt attend and add to the stress and emotional upset.


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    #4814
    Baggly
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    Mod

    Anewme's threadban lifted after discussion with user.


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    #4815
    Leg End Reject
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    Now that we know Meghan won't be there the next big question is what do they do with Andrew? Take him out of the storage cupboard, dust him off and tell him to behave?

    TV commentators covering the funeral will have to be respectful and won't be able to mention Epstein, the disastrous interview, the allegations and his refusal to cooperate with investigators, so it's going to be the elephant in the room.

    Chances are the tabloids will have a field day after, and it wouldn't be believable if he was suddenly indisposed.
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    #4816
    Ms2011
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    Deeec wrote: »
    Poor little Archie probably sees more of his nanny than he does of Megan. Can you honestly see Megs making his dinner, changing his nappies, up with him all night because hes teething, washing his clothes etc - dont think so - she has people to do all of that. Poor little mite is lucky if he sees here for 1 hr per day. I dont think Archie would even realise shes gone!

    Funerals are a hard time for families. It is much better that Megs doesnt attend and add to the stress and emotional upset.

    So now she's not only a narcissist and a liar but also a crap mother, jayus Satan would want to watch his back, she'll be after his job next :rolleyes:


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    #4817
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    So now she's not only a narcissist and a liar but also a crap mother, jayus Satan would want to watch his back, she'll be after his job next :rolleyes:

    First part of your post is definitely correct

    Jury is still out on the last part!


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    #4818
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    walshb wrote: »
    First part of your post is definitely correct

    Jury is still out on the last part!

    :pac::pac::pac:


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    #4819
    JoChervil
    Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    So now she's not only a narcissist and a liar but also a crap mother, jayus Satan would want to watch his back, she'll be after his job next :rolleyes:

    I don't think she is a crap mother. She actually may put much more energy into her kids than average.

    Narcissist's kids are projects for a narcissist. Hence name for their future projects: Archewell Foundation, Archewell Productions, Archiwell Audio.

    Also her desire of the prince title for him. It has nothing to do with security for him, only wanting to have better kid than others.

    And very likely her girl will be called Diana.


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    #4820
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    JoChervil wrote: »
    I don't think she is a crap mother. She actually may put much more energy into her kids than average.

    Narcissist's kids are projects for a narcissist. Hence name for their future projects: Archewell Foundation, Archewell Productions, Archiwell Audio.

    Also her desire of the prince title for him. It has nothing to do with security for him, only wanting to have better kid than others.

    And very likely her girl will be called Diana.

    You do realise Harry would have had or will have a say in all of that too, Archie and this new baby have to equally invested parents.


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    #4821
    JoChervil
    Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    You do realise Harry would have had or will have a say in all of that too, Archie and this new baby have to equally invested parents.

    Well, I see different dynamic in their relationship. "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets".


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    #4822
    walshb
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    You do realise Harry would have had or will have a say in all of that too, Archie and this new baby have to equally invested parents.

    How do you know?

    Like any parents/marriage/commitment....there can be levels of “equal.”

    Anyway, no matter what anyone thinks of their behaviours recently, I wish them nothing but joy on the birth of their daughter. Nothing in humanity more beautiful and cherished than birth!!


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    #4823
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    JoChervil wrote: »
    Well, I see different dynamic in their relationship. "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets".

    Who told you that 'a source ?


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    #4824
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    walshb wrote: »
    How do you know?

    Like any parents/marriage/commitment....there can be levels of “equal.”

    Anyway, no matter what anyone thinks of their behaviours recently, I wish them nothing but joy on the birth of their daughter. Nothing in humanity more beautiful and cherished than birth!!

    How does anyone know anything for sure unless they hear it first hand.


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    #4825
    Leg End Reject
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56709087

    Hope of healing rifts and Andrew speaking to the press.
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    #4826
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    How does anyone know anything for sure unless they hear it first hand.

    Exactly my point...

    Hence why I asked how do you know, as you seemed to imply that it was a given..

    Anyway, I am sure he does have a say. Equal say? That is up for debate.

    From what I have seen from them both, Markle clearly knows what she wanted, how to get it, and how to work it

    I guess I am a biased, as I never took their relationship as at all genuine...


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    #4827
    Leg End Reject
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    How does anyone know anything for sure unless they hear it first hand.

    Well what's your source for "Archie and the new baby having two equally invested parents"?
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    #4828
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Well what's your source for "Archie and the new baby having two equally invested parents"?

    Listening to how Harry lights up when he talks about Archie shows his investment.


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    #4829
    BettyS
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    How does anyone know anything for sure unless they hear it first hand.

    Exactly! How do we know what the people accused in the documentary meant unless we hear it first hand


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    #4830
    Ms2011
    Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    BettyS wrote: »
    Exactly! How do we know what the people accused in the documentary meant unless we hear it first hand

    We don’t hence the debate, the difference is I'm not calling anyone a narcissist or liar like its a fact.


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    #4831
    Ckendrick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    You do realise Harry would have had or will have a say in all of that too, Archie and this new baby have to equally invested parents.

    Harry will do as Harry is bid. Unless he wants to find himself back in Blighty with a family and a public who don’t like him anymore, fighting a cross-Atlantic custody battle.
    Girls like Meghan won’t tolerate any man trying to exert any kind of “will”.


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