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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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    #6032
    Be right back
    Registered Users Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    I'm sure we'll find out the exact wording soon enough.

    Gayle or Omid might kindly tell us. I'm sure we are dying to find out!!


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    #6033
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Harry and Meghan as much as fart and their spokesperson has to let the world know


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    #6034
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,039 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It might even be "a source close to the couple" so they can distance themselves from the leak and the "invasion of their privacy".
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #6035
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    I'm sure we'll find out the exact wording soon enough.

    It will be in the next installment of finding freedom no doubt.


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    #6036
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It will be in the next installment of finding freedom no doubt.

    The book won't sell itself! I wonder what will they do for Charlotte's birthday?


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    #6037
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,039 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It will be in the next installment of finding freedom no doubt.

    I think we deserve a third edition at least.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #6038
    buttercups88
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    https://yankeewally.tumblr.com/post/645950386723848192/hi-i-have-a-cousin-who-works-as-within-givenchy/amp

    This makes for interesting reading 👀👀. It sounds very plausible


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    #6039
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 13,176 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Who knows if any of the above is true, it's an anonymous poster online but one thing I found very uncomfortable in the interview was when Meghan mentioned something about how Kate should have rowed in behind her as it was her wedding. There was something in that comment and the way she said it that made her seem very entitled and like a bridezilla nightmare.
    It came across as petulant and petty to me.

    To thine own self be true



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    #6040
    Sardonicat
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    Be right back wrote: »
    I wonder what will they do for Charlotte's birthday?

    They're getting her novelty tights.


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    #6041
    Ash.J.Williams
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    buttercups88 wrote: »
    https://yankeewally.tumblr.com/post/645950386723848192/hi-i-have-a-cousin-who-works-as-within-givenchy/amp

    This makes for interesting reading ����. It sounds very plausible

    For a start it mentions assault which surely would have brought charges so I declare it bullsh1t


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    #6042
    MoonUnit75
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    For a start it mentions assault which surely would have brought charges so I declare it bullsh1t

    I’m not sure such a high status brand would stand by as a junior staff member filed a police report on a royal bride over a ‘slap’, for all we know she slapped her hand away while adjusting the dress. Nothing implausible about that.


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    #6043
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,039 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    I’m not sure such a high status brand would stand by as a junior staff member filed a police report on a royal bride over a ‘slap’, for all we know she slapped her hand away while adjusting the dress. Nothing implausible about that.
    Highly unlikely they wouldn't react if a former staff member blabbed about famous clients. I'm sure they'd have to sign non-disclosure contracts.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #6044
    MoonUnit75
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Highly unlikely they wouldn't react if a former staff member blabbed about famous clients. I'm sure they'd have to sign non-disclosure contracts.

    Yes, I'm sure if they were aware of this and knew who it was they would take some form of action. NDAs usually result in 'a source said', as long as there were multiple sources it could have come from. That's in contrast to Meghan and Harry's ghostwritten autobiography where they authors somehow knew what Meghan was feeling and what yoga poses she was doing on holiday.


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    #6045
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,039 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    Yes, I'm sure if they were aware of this and knew who it was they would take some form of action. NDAs usually result in 'a source said', as long as there were multiple sources it could have come from. That's in contrast to Meghan and Harry's ghostwritten autobiography where they authors somehow knew what Meghan was feeling and what yoga poses she was doing on holiday.
    Well it was the employee who had just gone on maternity leave, and would have been there otherwise, who blabbed according to the article so easy to identify them.

    The person claims to be their cousin.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #6046
    Ash.J.Williams
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    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    I’m not sure such a high status brand would stand by as a junior staff member filed a police report on a royal bride over a ‘slap’, for all we know she slapped her hand away while adjusting the dress. Nothing implausible about that.

    It would be a lucrative slap and worth more than a junior job . It didn’t happen.


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    #6047
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Isn’t there a rumour also about her throwing tea at a staff member on their Australia tour? Not sure I believe that either as it seems too far fetched but it is interesting how we never hear rumours of Kate’s aggressive and entitled behaviour.


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    #6048
    valoren
    Registered Users Posts: 5,478 ✭✭✭valoren


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    https://yankeewally.tumblr.com/post/645950386723848192/hi-i-have-a-cousin-who-works-as-within-givenchy/amp

    This makes for interesting reading 👀👀. It sounds very plausible

    The best friend of a cousin? It's no better than a "source" close to the couple or royal "insiders" to be honest i.e. very likely made up.


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    #6049
    Be right back
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    Isn’t there a rumour also about her throwing tea at a staff member on their Australia tour? Not sure I believe that either as it seems too far fetched but it is interesting how we never hear rumours of Kate’s aggressive and entitled behaviour.

    Rumours, indeed. Still not verified and probably never will.


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    #6050
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Is it true that Doria had a stint in jail when Meghan was a teen? Lots of rumours flying about that too..


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    #6051
    Be right back
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    Is it true that Doria had a stint in jail when Meghan was a teen? Lots of rumours flying about that too..

    Apparently she did, and possibly that's why Meghan lived with her dad when she was a teenager. If true, her only relative at the wedding was an ex inmate. But her dad posed for the media and was totally cut off.


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    #6052
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Is it true that Doria had a stint in jail when Meghan was a teen? Lots of rumours flying about that too..
    Be right back wrote: »
    Apparently she did, and possibly that's why Meghan lived with her dad when she was a teenager. If true, her only relative at the wedding was an ex inmate. But her dad posed for the media and was totally cut off.

    Her mother is a social worker- how would that be possible if she had a criminal record?


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    #6053
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Her mother is a social worker- how would that be possible if she had a criminal record?

    Who knows? I did read before that she has the qualifications but is not registered anywhere. Also I went to college with someone who has a past conviction and is now working as a social worker. Past convictions don’t always automatically preclude you, and it would depend on the area she went into, ie rehabilitation or mental health (which I understand she did)
    It could also depend on how far back her record was.


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    #6054
    Be right back
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    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Her mother is a social worker- how would that be possible if she had a criminal record?

    Depends maybe on the crime?


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    #6055
    buttercups88
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    Be right back wrote: »
    Apparently she did, and possibly that's why Meghan lived with her dad when she was a teenager. If true, her only relative at the wedding was an ex inmate. But her dad posed for the media and was totally cut off.

    I think there were rumours about him too though


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    #6056
    Neyite
    Administrators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    It would be a lucrative slap and worth more than a junior job . It didn’t happen.

    I find it really hard to believe as well. She's had a long career where getting along with colleagues, assistants, bosses and all that will have shown her the importance of interacting civilly with people. There's no reports of her doing these kind of things when she was acting. If she was going around slapping and throwing drinks at subordinates, you'd have heard of a few scalded or slapped makeup artists or other set staff suing the daylights out of her for it, or selling their story to a US/CA rag.

    The only way it could have happened is if she got a massive ego trip on landing Harry and formed the opinion that royalty should behave like Henry VIII towards peasants and servants and changed her behaviour. Which seems extreme.

    But yet, the leaks of the bullying allegations and the consistency of diva-ish behaviour are persistent, so it indicates that there's no smoke without a fire. My guess would be that she went into the RF with a clear plan of 'who' she was going to be, and with all the wedding prep, and the intensity of the plunge into Royal life and it's endless protocol, plus public scrutiny probably did exacerbate any diva traits, and probably se had quite a few tantrums/strops, but I really don't think that a) she assaulted a dressmaker or b) threw a cup of tea at a government official in Australia.


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    #6057
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Who knows? I did read before that she has the qualifications but is not registered anywhere. Also I went to college with someone who has a past conviction and is now working as a social worker. Past convictions don’t always automatically preclude you, and it would depend on the area she went into, ie rehabilitation or mental health (which I understand she did)
    It could also depend on how far back her record was.

    I think it's a bit far fetched. Apologies for the reference, but : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5728553/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-reportedly-quits-job-ahead-royal-wedding.html

    And the slap rumour, come off it. They're obvs both spoiled, entitled and the interview was a monumentally bad idea but the whole Royal Family circus is it's own worst enemy and this narrative of "Finding Freedom" and the "Firm" is just another ridiculous part of that. One can't live without the other.


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    #6058
    MoonUnit75
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    Neyite wrote: »
    I find it really hard to believe as well. She's had a long career where getting along with colleagues, assistants, bosses and all that will have shown her the importance of interacting civilly with people. There's no reports of her doing these kind of things when she was acting. If she was going around slapping and throwing drinks at subordinates, you'd have heard of a few scalded or slapped makeup artists or other set staff suing the daylights out of her for it, or selling their story to a US/CA rag.

    The only way it could have happened is if she got a massive ego trip on landing Harry and formed the opinion that royalty should behave like Henry VIII towards peasants and servants and changed her behaviour. Which seems extreme.

    But yet, the leaks of the bullying allegations and the consistency of diva-ish behaviour are persistent, so it indicates that there's no smoke without a fire. My guess would be that she went into the RF with a clear plan of 'who' she was going to be, and with all the wedding prep, and the intensity of the plunge into Royal life and it's endless protocol, plus public scrutiny probably did exacerbate any diva traits, and probably se had quite a few tantrums/strops, but I really don't think that a) she assaulted a dressmaker or b) threw a cup of tea at a government official in Australia.

    Any of the Hollywood stars Harvey Weinstein worked with who spoke about him personally before the revelations gushed about how fantastic he was though! That's the problem with narcissists, they often can be extremely likeable and can't do enough for people who they think will help their image or career. That's how they rise to the top of the corporate or political ladder, they know who is below, equal or above them and treat them accordingly.


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    #6059
    MoonUnit75
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    It would be a lucrative slap and worth more than a junior job . It didn’t happen.

    How would you monetise it though? She was a future duchess and world famous, you're a junior at a massive and prestigious brand who would probably kill to avoid such a publicity nightmare about their assistants possible behaviour or story telling. The only other witnesses have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by backing you. How would you see yourself coming out of this? A few grand for a greasy tell all in a tabloid in return for a career ending breach of confidentiality?


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    #6060
    Neyite
    Administrators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Neyite


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    Any of the Hollywood stars Harvey Weinstein worked with who spoke about him personally before the revelations gushed about how fantastic he was though! That's the problem with narcissists, they often can be extremely likeable and can't do enough for people who they think will help their image or career. That's how they rise to the top of the corporate or political ladder, they know who is below, equal or above them and treat them accordingly.

    True, but he was top of the pile and had the power to blacklist anyone who didn't tow the line for him. She was an ensemble actress on a streaming series, so didn't have that kind of clout he had to cover up unacceptable behaviour.

    I agree that she probably is very selective of who she uses her charm on, but I really do think that if she was physically abusive to people before this, it would have come out while she was dating Harry and didn't have the clout of the RF to quash any unpalatable press.


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    #6061
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I don’t believe she was ever physically violent towards another either. I think she is cleverer than that, and is manipulative and exploitative of people in ways which can often be more soul destroying than a slap across the face. I believe the bullying rumours however, and I believe she is the type of person to pile on the pressure and who you can never do enough for and nothing is ever right.


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