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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Meanwhile Harry and Meghan have done multiple books, TV shows and interviews leaking personal information about family members, private meetings and interactions and family events. Perhaps the rest of the rf just decided to fight fire with fire?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    He is a snake because he was employed as H&M spokesperson. He came forward himself to give the statement on behalf of the Mail. The judge said what he said was irrelevant to the case and referred to Meghan saying that Knauf was authorised to speak to the authors of Scobie's book. (Knauf could have said anything), but he was autorised to speak to the authors to correct any obvious errors in biography.

    So, as a former employee who had probably signed NDA with Kensington Palace, he took it upon himself to make a statement on behalf of The Mail which was irrelevant anyway. Thats why he is a snake. It looks like William is still employing that other snake who was selling stuff to the Mirror.

    By the way, the judge said of Meghan - it was an unfortunate lapse of memory and it was totally irrelevant to the court case.

    And Clarkson is a big buddy of Camilla's. They smoke ciggies out the back together! (all revealed in some documentary Clarkson did not too long ago).



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭valoren


    Where did it say he had "no interest"?

    What I see quoted is "no plans in the diary" to meet Harry. The press asking questions to the press secretary and given a straight answer. That isn't leaking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Stanley 1


    Guess he should have advised that pre condition to his father, who would probably have told him to feic off and stay in LA.

    Isn't a real Queen, do you mean it's a lad dressed up, always thought Charlie was familiar with the other side.

    As for Diana, she was hell bent on revenge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road



    good for her.

    dianna was essentially used to be a baby maker and nothing more and was treated like crap, disgusting.

    fair play to her, she's not the only woman wronged by the RF and they can't all be wrong.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭Karppi


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,772 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This thread is full of people painfully dissecting every single word and sentence and trying to criticise it and validate their views.


    Basically every single article from Williams team saying he had ‘no interest’ in meeting Harry when Harry came to see Charles.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭Karppi


    By the way, the judge said of Meghan - it was an unfortunate lapse of memory

    Actually, what he said was, "This was, at best, an unfortunate lapse of memory on her part". (My emphasis).

    Selective editing of a quote clearly allows people to be persuaded as to your credibility.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Direct quotes usually have quotation marks around them. I didn't use quotation marks so you can take back that nasty effort of yours to avoid the real issue that the submission by Knauf was irrelevant to the case and so dismissed by the judge. And thats why Knauf is a snake. I would imagine that he probably would not have come forward with irrelevant information unless his boss, Prince William asked him to. William obviously wanted to help out his media friends at the expense of his own sister-in-law (and brother).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭Mr.Wemmick


    I’ve been reading quite a few quotes from veterans at the IG praising their input and for making them feel valued & special. No report on any of this from the British media, of course.. but they are very much aware of the huge success it’s been. Why? In one article they referred to Megan as the Duchess of Sussex and Prince Harry by full title, haven’t seen any of the tabloids do that in a while.

    I think the beast is for turning. Little wonder when Harry is far superior at PR and developing connections with the public. Something Charles & William suck at. Harry is very like his Mother in that regard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Oh it's fine, I like a fairytale to read to the kids before bedtime. The video at the end, extolling the five causes that Meghan Markle champions, was particularly moving.

    Obviously, H&M are very binary folk. Some people love them' some people - including me - don't like the way they carry on. Try having a count up of how many outfits Meghan has merchandised over this trip. I can't be bothered to try. The whole trip - one year in advance of the actual event, is a promotional event. I get that. But, pray tell me, what is Meghan doing there? She had no hand, act or part in the Invictus Games. She uses it for self-promotion and as a clothing merchandising opportunity. Also an opportunity to stay in the best accommodation and dine out in the best restaurants.

    I'm glad the veterans have some benefit from their engagement. Invictus is a great concept and veterans deserve our support and assistance. But this visit is not the best PR for the Invictus Games. And it looks as if the Germans are cutting loose and paddling their own Invictus Games 2024 canoe - minus H&M. But IG are, to quote Boris, spaffing money up the wall on private jets, expenses, outfits. Harry is a Patron. Meghan is, at best, the wife of a Patron.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Carol25


    This is actually a case in point re this thread. Playing with words re William to defend him, defending the indefensible and attacking Harry & Meghan continuously to boot. There’s literally no talking to some posters on this thread re their views. As you’re such a staunch defender of William, what do you think happened to his wife Kate?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Most of the stuff was in the press anyway (William and Kate's version - such as Meghan supposedly making Kate Cry. Why couldn't Meghan set the record straight on that when Kate refused to do so). Harry and Meghan did not reveal who made the racist 'concern' comments. And Harry had every right to say that that Meghan told William to take his finger out of her face and William assaulting him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭valoren


    I'm a staunch defender of William? What exactly am I defending?

    Again, where does it say he had "no interest"?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    The Invictus Games emphasise that it is a family event. Injured soldiers physically & mentally have a huge impact on their families as well. Meghan is married to a veteran, so of course she should be there. Anyway, no one would know about the Invictus games if it were not for H&M. They draw eyes to it, and the veterans know this (and say that).

    I'd be pretty sure that Meghan pays for her own wardrobe and are not paid in anyway for their contributions. I'd imagine since the Games are hosted by various cities (they bid for them), they get free accommodation.

    Thats great that Invictus Germany are inviting some other nearby countries to their competition. I don't think they are withdrawing from the Global Event (its more like a NATO countries event), but they have a donate button to go to IG in Canada next year.

    I'm sure you will be upset that they are not pulling out of Harry's gig! Just creating more opportunities for injured veterans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭valoren


    It was irrelevant to the case because the case was explicitly regarding privacy laws in the UK regarding one specific letter. Effectively how much of that letter printed in a paper is deemed excessive and thus an invasion of privacy. You're minimising Knaufs bombshell but reading about it made it clear that Meghan using a proxy to get information to the media (Scobie/FF/Knauf) demonstrated that such a tactic may have been used in a People magazine article published outside of the UK about that specific letter where quotes regarding its contents are spoken about by 5 unnamed friends. It was this article which provoked Tom Markle, who had the letter for six months prior to the People article, to approach The Sunday Mail with the letter i.e. Is a letter really private if 5 people have possibly been privy to it? And if it can be demonstrated that whoever they are saw that letter then printing almost half of it was not an invasion of privacy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    All made up nonsense I'd say. Thats what the British press do to generate clicks. Harry just said that he loves his life in California.There is absolutely no way they are going back to England.

    Edit: Just an interesting note - according to Notradamus (who predicted that QEII would die in 2022, predicted that her successor would not have a long reign and would be followed by someone who never thought they would be King.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭Karppi




  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Carol25


    Why are the tabloids following Meghan and Harry 24/7, their comings and goings, but don’t or won’t take one single picture of William or Kate doing the school run, going to the shop, ’breaking cover’ going out in their super cars, or other socialising they may do? Yet they’re following Harry and Meghan like dogs looking for a bone.

    Why do you care whether William had ‘no plans’ or ‘no interest’ in meeting Harry. there’s literally story after story of rubbish published against Harry and Meghan every day. Here is the story I saw in the Daily hates Harry and Meghan tabloid:


    You didn’t answer the question re Kate, her whereabouts, her condition, your concerns re such, William’s suitability to be king. Here’s another: Why do you think the Palace issued a quick rebuttal of a Spanish journalist’s accusation that Kate had been in a coma, but failed to issue one single rebuttal of untrue stories published about Meghan and Harry while they were working royals?



  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭maik3n


    It's the Torygraph, so we can take what they say with a gallon of salt.

    Speaking of the Torygraph, royal correspondent Camilla Tominey of the fake cry story, kind of outed herself a bit in this clip.




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    And do you know why Meghan's father went to the Mail and not People magazine (which you would think would be the proper channel to air his displeasure at the letter being spoken about in People Magazine). No, he went to the Sunday Mail which is published in a different country.

    As for Knauf - the Judge said his statement was irrelevant to the case. How would the Mail even know that Knauf had spoklen to Omid Scobie unless he actually told them.

    Knauf is still a snake to do what he did. Had he not signed a NDA? More than likely, William, Meghan's brother-in-law, encouraged him to do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭valoren


    It's an accusation. News is supposed to report facts. Sensationally claiming that the Princess of Wales was in a coma and shutting down media speculation is quite different to expending time and effort to shutting down the tabloids every time they published **** stirring pieces such as pathetic stuff about who made who cry over childrens tights. I think Harry and Meghan made the mistake of thinking that the staff assigned to them was their staff and not actually the monarchs staff since being a "working royal" is effectively an extension of the monarch and the role is representing/filling in for that monarch. The Queen had the creed of never complain or explain and that creed was expected of those who sought to adopt the working role. It was never going to work if Harry and Meghan expected every negative hit piece (which they all get btw) to be confronted and shut down.

    In the end I guess the press office never tackled negative stories about them because they were true. The tabloids adopt a print and be damned approach i.e. they will print and speculate about any old shite if it might rouse readership/clicks and, so long as they are confident in their sources/experts/insiders to pass any legal test, they stand by their reporting. If their guff can't pass the legal smell test their stories disappear once/if they get clapback which might mean court cases. The beauty of this is that they make their money via the sales/clicks in advance of burying such stories.

    A nefarious tactic but a known one especially by the BRF wise to shutting down **** stirring versus wasting time laying down in the mud with tabloids pigs. The tabloids seemed to stand over their H&M reporting because it would pass the legal test i.e. in the example of who made who cry, if it ever ridiculously managed to get to a court case then witnesses under oath could validate and confirm the tabloids reporting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Kensington Palace don't deny any old rumours? How about them denying that Kate was using botox?

    If that isn't a frevious denial, nothing is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Could you answer mine?!! 🤔

    And they do take pictures of Catherine out shopping, on school run etc..




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭valoren


    Picture the scene. Palace Press do a meet the lunch with royal rota journos.

    "C'mere there are rumours that Kate has had botox treatments?"

    "I have no information on that"

    Exclusive: Palace Denies Kate Botox rumours!

    Click/Like/Share.

    👍😀



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Carol25


    So where are the pictures of her since December 25th? Why hasn’t she been seen?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    You didn't read the article. The Palace issued a statement denying that Kate used baby botox in response to a doctor from some clinic claiming she did on Instagram.

    And it was in July, not December.

    They said that she uses some sort of organic rosehip on her skin. Its not looking very well for a while now. She looks tired and drained now and aged a lot.

    Edit: I see you haven't responded to my post as to why Thomas Markle didn't respond to the People Magazine over the Meghan's letter to him! Is that because you don't know or you just won't admit that People Magazine would not pay him for the interview and the Mail would?



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