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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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    #2162
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, have any of the people she used to work with come out since to say what she was like to work with or to be around?

    I think the guy who played her love interest is her friend in real life and so comes out in support every now and again. The guy who played her father on the show gave an interview during the week and he was less than impressed with the pair of them.


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    #2163
    Ms2011
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    Penn wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/halfadams/status/1367882070098288642?s=20

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/markle-adams-oprah-cowan-gavankar-b1813728.html


    https://www.instagram.com/p/CMDrYQzn1QE/?utm_source=ig_embed


    The least positive thing I saw from the first few pages on Google were Wendell Pierce who played her father, complaining about the insignificance of the interview itself. But the next day he posted tweets clarifying his comments
    https://twitter.com/WendellPierce/status/1369457266177490945?s=20

    So yeah, she seems like a real b*tch.
    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Yes, many have come out to say nothing but good things about her.

    This guy came out swinging-

    https://twitter.com/halfadams/status/1367882078558121988


    Wow, those are some pretty polarising accounts to the ones given by those who worked with her in the royal family.


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    #2164
    Stateofyou
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    I think the guy who played her love interest is her friend in real life and so comes out in support every now and again. The guy who played her father on the show gave an interview during the week and he was less than impressed with the pair of them.

    He didn't have anything bad to say about working with her, which was the point of the other poster's question you're answering.


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    #2165
    retro:electro
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    Stateofyou wrote: »
    He didn't have anything bad to say about working with her, which was the point of the other poster's question you're answering.

    I’m aware of that. I was expanding on his point. It’s how conversation works.


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    #2166
    Ash.J.Williams
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why do you keep bringing gender into it? Bullying is bullying regardless of people's identity.

    If someone is bullying in the workplace, they should be disciplined, obviously.

    When someone points out the hypocrisy, dis-ingenuousness and bullying of another person, that is not in itself bullying, despite how the bully might "feel" about it.

    If the person feels bullied then it’s very hard to prove otherwise, I bring gender into it because of what I’ve seen in practice


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    #2167
    Ms2011
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    Stateofyou wrote: »
    He didn't have anything bad to say about working with her, which was the point of the other poster's question you're answering.

    Yes that is what I was wondering, just had a quick Google there as I'm not familiar with Suits.

    In a new interview on radio show Desert Island Discs (via The Guardian), Wendell Pierce, who played Rachel Zane's dad on Suits, discussed working with the royal. Pierce had only lovely things to say about Meghan, as he revealed that working with her "was great." He continued, "She’s a really good actress and was always sweet, always kind."

    Eta: That was Oct 2019


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    #2168
    beakerjoe
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    If the person feels bullied then it’s very hard to prove otherwise, I bring gender into it because of what I’ve seen in practice

    Just because someone says they were bullied doesn't make it so either. Very hard to prove either way, doesn't mean we should accept she was bullied.


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    #2169
    sebdavis
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    You’re taking this quite personally. To those who watched Suits, she was known. To everyone else, she was unknown. That’s not how “big stars”’work. Nobody wrote about her before she met Harry because nobody had any interest. And that’s the truth of it.

    How exactly am I taking your faux pas personally? you made a hole for yourself and keep on digging.

    So sorry to update, she was known to the millions of people who watched Suits all over the World but she wasn't know to you, a person who doesn't know the difference between the Oscars and the Emmys? about right?


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    #2170
    retro:electro
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    sebdavis wrote: »
    How exactly am I taking your faux pas personally? you made a hole for yourself and keep on digging.

    So sorry to update, she was known to the millions of people who watched Suits all over the World but she wasn't know to you, a person who doesn't know the difference between the Oscars and the Emmys? about right?

    :rolleyes:


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    #2171
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Wow, those are some pretty polarising accounts to the ones given by those who worked with her in the royal family.

    Who gave accounts of working with her in the Royal family?


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    #2172
    sebdavis
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    It's ok, I have yet to see anyone admit on boards they made a mistake. Next time if you try to tell people you know about American culture, at least have some basic idea :-)

    It was fun


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    #2173
    Ms2011
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    Who gave accounts of working with her in the Royal family?

    Isn't there bullying of staff allegations?


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    #2174
    Potatoeman
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    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Just because someone says they were bullied doesn't make it so either. Very hard to prove either way, doesn't mean we should accept she was bullied.

    The mood in the US seems to be that you can’t question her because of the mental health issue and the racism claim. I don’t see anyone over there coming out against her. Wether it is true or not I guess we’ll have to wait and see what comes of it.


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    #2175
    partyguinness
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Isn't there bullying of staff allegations?


    I am finding that the term "bullying" is being stretched beyond all recognition.


    "My boss/colleague was a little curt with me/less than 100% nice as pie"


    Bang...bullying.


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    #2176
    Penn
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Isn't there bullying of staff allegations?

    Yes. It should be noted that the allegations came out just a few days before this interview so the timing at the very least should be considered suspicious, but until actual details come out about the bullying allegations there's very little to go on.


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    #2177
    Potatoeman
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    Penn wrote: »
    Yes. It should be noted that the allegations came out just a few days before this interview so the timing at the very least should be considered suspicious, but until actual details come out about the bullying allegations there's very little to go on.

    You could say the same in reverse, that the racism claims came after the bullying claim though.


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    #2178
    Penn
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    You could say the same in reverse, that the racism claims came after the bullying claim though.

    I believe the interview was filmed before the bullying claims came out, but I'm open to correction on that.


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    #2179
    Potatoeman
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    If the institution was racist itself then she would not have been allowed to date him, never mind marry him. Many royal families have very strict rules about who they can date (look at Asia). The comment has Philip written all over it but he’s in hospital so can’t blame him.


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    #2180
    Potatoeman
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    Penn wrote: »
    I believe the interview was filmed before the bullying claims came out, but I'm open to correction on that.

    Probably got the info on it and launched the investigation as a counter before it aired so.


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    #2181
    Ms2011
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    Penn wrote: »
    Yes. It should be noted that the allegations came out just a few days before this interview so the timing at the very least should be considered suspicious, but until actual details come out about the bullying allegations there's very little to go on.

    Yeah, the timing of that to me was so obviously a deflection attempt.


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    #2182
    partyguinness
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    If the institution was racist itself then she would not have been allowed to date him, never mind marry him. Many royal families have very strict rules about who they can date (look at Asia). The comment has Philip written all over it but he’s in hospital so can’t blame him.


    Nah, I am going with Charles or William. It had to somebody close enough to say it. Anyway, I don't see the comment as even remotely racist.

    You have a pale redhead man and a biracial women- of course somebody would go "That will be an interesting combo" it is the type of quip you would hear back in the pub and not bat an eyelid.


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    #2183
    anewme
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    Penn wrote: »
    I believe the interview was filmed before the bullying claims came out, but I'm open to correction on that.

    Interview was recorded in mid February I believe.

    The bullying claims became much more detailed after the interview, but there have been rumblings of same going back a fair while, though they were much more vague.


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    #2184
    Stateofyou
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    It was alleged there were 3 involved in the bullying complaints, but it's since come out that (again allegedly) at least one of them was let go for gross misconduct. Also, there were never any formal complaints made. I read that the people allegedly to have been bullied didn't know about the complaint made on their behalf and once found out, asked for it to be retracted.

    So what could palace HR be investigating, if there are no formal complaints made? And if they existed, it was 3 years ago nearly so why not tackled then? This will be interesting to see what actually comes of it.


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    #2185
    retro:electro
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    The bullying complaint was made in 2018.


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    #2186
    Penn
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Probably got the info on it and launched the investigation as a counter before it aired so.

    From what I remember, Meghan said the morning of the interview was the same day Prince Philip was taken to hospital which was about 2 weeks before the interview aired. The allegations of bullying came out just a few days before the interview was aired.

    So the reveal of the allegations almost certainly seems timed to try and disparage Meghan before the interview.


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    #2187
    [Deleted User]
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Isn't there bullying of staff allegations?

    That's working for her, not with her.
    There may be a big difference in how someone behaved with colleagues or with the staff


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    #2188
    Stateofyou
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    partyguinness wrote: »
    Nah, I am going with Charles or William. It had to somebody close enough to say it. Anyway, I don't see the comment as even remotely racist.

    You have a pale redhead man and a biracial women- of course somebody would go "That will be an interesting combo" it is the type of quip you would hear back in the pub and not bat an eyelid.

    What comment are you talking about? Neither of them has detailed what was said. Only that there questions and concerns about what colour his skin might be and what that would mean. Harry said he was shocked. Seems to be something to it.


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    #2189
    Ms2011
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    That's working for her, not with her.
    There may be a big difference in how someone behaved with colleagues or with the staff

    There are staff on TV sets, have any of them complained about how she treated them?


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    #2190
    [Deleted User]
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    There are staff on TV sets, have any of them complained about how she treated them?

    I don't know


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    #2191
    Penn
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    partyguinness wrote: »
    Nah, I am going with Charles or William. It had to somebody close enough to say it. Anyway, I don't see the comment as even remotely racist.

    You have a pale redhead man and a biracial women- of course somebody would go "That will be an interesting combo" it is the type of quip you would hear back in the pub and not bat an eyelid.

    Oprah has said since the interview that Harry said the comment wasn't made by the Queen or Philip, so Charles is the frontrunner imo.

    But regarding the comment itself, we don't know how it was phrased, but they're implying it wasn't merely a throwaway comment or question of how dark his skin might be
    Meghan said that "in the months when I was pregnant… we have in tandem the conversation of he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title, and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born."

    It's up for debate as to what "...concerns and conversations..." entails, but both of them did emphasise there were several conversations and questions about it.


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