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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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    #2372
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Very good rebuttal here by The Daily Mail.

    (Content Warning: may not be scholarly enough for some)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9356741/Harry-Meghan-inconvenient-truth.html

    Is Piers Morgan connected to the Daily Fail, sorry Mail?


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    #2373
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    No support there and that poster was questioning how having sex with a 17 year old makes someone a paedophile. 17 is the age of consent.

    I pointed that out, but also said there was a power imbalance and no evidence to suggest she consented.

    It beggars belief that this was all just dropped, Andrew allowed to fade into the background and that his interview wasn't the one to bring down the monarchy.

    Were there not claims that Andrew did have sex with under age girls?


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    #2374
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    No support there and that poster was questioning how having sex with a 17 year old makes someone a paedophile. 17 is the age of consent.

    I pointed that out, but also said there was a power imbalance and no evidence to suggest she consented.

    It beggars belief that this was all just dropped, Andrew allowed to fade into the background and that his interview wasn't the one to bring down the monarchy.

    You are defending someone who was defending Andrew. I posted a link after those comments pointing out Andrew is also alleged to have had sex with another of Epstein's victims who was 16. You and you mate can continue to pretend you are deeply concerned by the technical meaning of 'pedophile' but really it's defending Andrew.


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    #2375
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    anewme wrote: »
    Were there not claims that Andrew did have sex with under age girls?

    There might have been, the woman in the photo was 17 at the time, but it was acknowledged that there were younger girls brought to the island. So chances are yes, he did.

    It was allowed fade away though and that's a bigger issue. Disgraceful that it was all swept under the carpet.

    No proof it happened, but no one on this thread defended him.
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    #2376
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    cnocbui wrote: »
    You are defending someone who was defending Andrew. I posted a link after those comments pointing out Andrew is also alleged to have had sex with another of Epstein's victims who was 16. You and you mate can continue to pretend you are deeply concerned by the technical meaning of 'pedophile' but really it's defending Andrew.

    Yes, I was sure I spotted the post, so am glad I'm not imagining it. Andrew is alleged to have had sex with 16 year olds and that was passed over.


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    #2377
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    cnocbui wrote: »
    You are defending someone who was defending Andrew. I posted a link after those comments pointing out Andrew is also alleged to have had sex with another of Epstein's victims who was 16. You and you mate can continue to pretend you are deeply concerned by the technical meaning of 'pedophile' but really it's defending Andrew.

    No, read my last post. It should have been investigated properly and I've no idea how it was ignored.
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    #2378
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    There might have been, the woman in the photo was 17 at the time, but it was acknowledged that there were younger girls brought to the island. So chances are yes, he did.

    It was allowed fade away though and that's a bigger issue. Disgraceful that it was all swept under the carpet.

    No proof it happened, but no one on this thread defended him.

    No, the poster here put up the link to under age.


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    #2379
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    anewme wrote: »
    No, the poster here put up the link to under age.

    Just now? I answered that.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #2380
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    anewme wrote: »
    Were there not claims that Andrew did have sex with under age girls?

    Yes.
    The British socialite is accused of sexually assaulting Annie farmer, then just 16, at Jeffrey Epstein's New Mexico ranch, while paedophile watched
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-21776234


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    #2381
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-21776234

    Apologies then if that was posted earlier, I missed it. I did acknowledge that there had been allegations a few minutes ago and it's clear I didn't defend Andrew and that I thought it should have been properly investigated.
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    #2382
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Just now? I answered that.

    No, not just now, the poster says they put the link up previously (and I recall it hence the question) re underage girls, but it seems to have been ignored in favour of supporting Andrew on a technicality.


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    #2383
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    anewme wrote: »
    No you did not, the poster says they put the link up previously (and I recall it hence the question) re underage girls, but it seems to have been ignored in favour of supporting Andrew on a technicality.

    See the post above yours.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #2384
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    There might have been, the woman in the photo was 17 at the time, but it was acknowledged that there were younger girls brought to the island. So chances are yes, he did.

    It was allowed fade away though and that's a bigger issue. Disgraceful that it was all swept under the carpet.

    No proof it happened, but no one on this thread defended him.

    And this too.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #2385
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    And this too.

    But you posted that today?

    After having twice or more badgered posters into...where is the support for Andrew, and you missed the post where it referenced underage girls.

    It reads 100 percent defending Andrew on a technicality and can totally see why the other posters are saying that.


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    #2386
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    anewme wrote: »
    But you posted that today?

    After having twice badgered posters into...where is the support for Andrew, and you missed the post where it referenced underage girls.

    It reads 100 percent defending Andrew on a technicality and can totally see why the other posters are saying that.

    I missed the post where that linked was included first time round.

    I answered you earlier and acknowledged that there were allegations and it was likely he had had sex with underage girls.

    Read back over the last page, or search my posts. I didn't defend Andrew on a technicality, and several times I have stated it should have been investigated properly, and that it should have brought down the monarchy. Not just today either in case you try to suggest I'm backpedalling.

    If that suggests I defended him I'm not going to be able to explain it any further.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #2387
    Tokyo
    Registered Users Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Mod: sebdavis, threadbanned for a seemingly unending list of disingenuous posting. Continue this style of posting elsewhere, and it will quickly result in a forum ban.


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    #2388
    BensMixed
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 50 ✭✭BensMixed


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-21776234




    Imagine having to see Andrew every day walking around where you live and be expected to have pleasant conversations with him.


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    #2389
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-21776234

    Wheres Andrew mentioned in that??


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    #2390
    Quantum Erasure
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    anewme wrote: »
    No, not just now, the poster says they put the link up previously (and I recall it hence the question) re underage girls, but it seems to have been ignored in favour of supporting Andrew on a technicality.

    A technicality, as in it was someone else altogether?


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    #2391
    [Deleted User]
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    The age of consent in England is 16, just an aside.
    I don't know What it was on that island.
    I don't know what Andrew has to do with this, maybe someone should start a thread about him?

    Anyway, supposedly over 50million people have watched the Oprah interview.
    Trying to keep the media out? Why not make yourselves the most watched and talked about people in the western world

    #rolleyes#


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    #2392
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,695 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    bubblypop wrote: »
    The age of consent in England is 16, just an aside.
    I don't know What it was on that island.
    I don't know what Andrew has to do with this, maybe someone should start a thread about him?

    Anyway, supposedly over 50million people have watched the Oprah interview.
    Trying to keep the media out? Why not make yourselves the most watched and talked about people in the western world

    #rolleyes#

    The constant deflecting to Prince Andrew is a nonsense

    The man has been charged with no crime..alleged to have slept with a 17 year old. And people jumping on this labelling him a child rapist and paedophile.

    The thread is about Harry and Meghan..


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    #2393
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There is difference between opening your house to visiters once or twice a year when it suits you vs a hoard of them letting themselves in every sigle day and having a good look in your bedroom, kitchen, then leaving.

    The Daily Mail operates under a model of invading celebrities privacy under a guise of 'free press' and public interest, without pause - 24/7/365. In the case of Meghan, it would seem all, or most of those 'sources' they were quoting to pillory Meghan and Harry were likely the RF staff, and advisers, who I believe had a deal with the press to give them some sacrificial lambs in return for the press staying off certain people and subjects.


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    #2394
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    walshb wrote: »
    The constant deflecting to Prince Andrew is a nonsense

    The man has been charged with no crime..alleged to have slept with a 17 year old. And people jumping on this labelling him a child rapist and paedophile.

    The thread is about Harry and Meghan..

    Which includes discussing things like comparable treatment of other royals by the gutter press. You don't get to gate-keep the discussion.


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    #2395
    walshb
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    cnocbui wrote: »
    Which includes discussing things like comparable treatment of other royals by the gutter press. You don't get to gate-keep the discussion.

    Andrew was vilified by the press....

    Let’s not make out that he got some easy ride with the press!


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    #2396
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 20,053 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    bubblypop wrote: »
    The age of consent in England is 16, just an aside.
    I don't know What it was on that island.
    I don't know what Andrew has to do with this, maybe someone should start a thread about him?

    Anyway, supposedly over 50million people have watched the Oprah interview.
    Trying to keep the media out? Why not make yourselves the most watched and talked about people in the western world

    #rolleyes#

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Many of the girls Epstein had about the place were under 16 and from east european countries and other non-English speaking places. Epstein even joked these girls couldn't engage in conversation which made them even better. So had randy Andy had sex with any of these girls, he would be considered a pedophile in most jurisdictions. The language aspect is massive hurdle to our ever hearing from these girls and is great protection for all who abused them.


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    #2397
    BettyS
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    Did any of the Meghan supporters read the DailyMail article? Thoughts on it?


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    #2398
    BettyS
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    cnocbui wrote: »
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Many of the girls Epstein had about the place were under 16 and from east european countries and other non-English speaking places. Epstein even joked these girls couldn't engage in conversation which made them even better. So had randy Andy had sex with any of these girls, he would be considered a pedophile in most jurisdictions. The language aspect is massive hurdle to our ever hearing from these girls and is great protection for all who abused them.

    I am sickened by Andrew. Are there allegations that he has sex with an under-16s? I don’t recall such claims?


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    #2399
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    BettyS wrote: »
    Did any of the Meghan supporters read the DailyMail article? Thoughts on it?

    I asked what was the connection between Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail?


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    #2400
    BettyS
    Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BettyS


    anewme wrote: »
    I asked what was the connection between Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail?

    No connection? He occasionally is a guest-writer. He certainly didn’t write the rebuttal. Its tone is dispassionate

    The article refutes several of Harry and Meghan’s claims


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    #2401
    walshb
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    BettyS wrote: »
    I am sickened by Andrew. Are there allegations that he has sex with an under-16s? I don’t recall such claims?

    Does it even matter?

    People will run with the paedophile/child rapist angle here no matter what age...

    Desperately searching for reports that maybe there are “allegations” that he slept with very young girls..

    Nobody is saying Andrew is a saint, but folks here want to slap these horrendous labels on him as fact, when not a single crime/charge has been levied against him.


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