Bad Actors

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He’s probably a good actor but I never find Ethan Hawke an engaging performer

Azatadine

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Yeah he’s an amazing actor (and a top class weirdo character actor )

Dano was great in Escape from Dannemora too.

99nsr125

Cate Blanchett

Woeful just woeful

Oranage2

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

I'm not having this, Dano is an excellent actor and more than holds his own with Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood

He may "specialise" in playing characters that are a little off the beaten track but he does it very well - it may be a case that you dislike the character rather than the performance? Prisoners and Taking Lives would be other examples of him playing creepy weirdos to perfection

Nope, I thought his acting was poor in that movie, this might sound like a contradiction but his acting was wooden, over the top and disengaging, he was good as the twin brother but as a the preacher he was annoying and not the character but the acting. The movie would be up there with the Godfathers if it wasn't for him and other movie directors have the same sentiment as me.

AndyBoBandy

99nsr125 wrote: »

Cate Blanchett

Woeful just woeful

One of the best out there in my opinion.

Brilliant in anything I’ve seen her in.

Thor - brilliant as Hella
The Aviator - brilliant as Catherine Hepburn

She was the best thing about the utter sh1tshow that was Indiana Jones 4.

maestroamado

Jack Nicholson...
Sorry i was thinking of best or likely favourite...

saabsaab

maestroamado wrote: »

Jack Nicholson...
Sorry i was thinking of best or likely favourite...

No one else plays him better.

Capt'n Midnight

Deleted User wrote: »

You’ve missed out on some good movies then. He’s more of a star than a great actor but that’s ok. And he can act when we wants to.

I've seen them. But he doesn't bring anything to them. You could replace him with a WWF star or get someone off a Scandinavian police series. For action movies you just need someone competent who won't distract from the action.

Wrongway1985

pixelburp wrote: »

Cage is a good actor whose early career proves this, it's simply that (IIRC) he has had financial and tax issues that necessitated him saying yes to pretty much any job that crossed his desk. But unlike similar Z-movie, former stars like Bruce Willis, rather than act like it's all beneath him, Cage just goes for broke and channels some crazy energy.

Said like a person who has either overlooked or never seen 'Vampires Kiss' if it's the former get on it immediately! An absolutely bonkers film that you couldn't imagine being made today Cage is woeful in it with diabolical attempt at a British accent to boot ...but he's so ridiculously captivating and some of the lines are something else, most should really have a right laugh how astonishingly bad this is. Recommended to those who got a kick out of 'The Room' for sure.

Also a lot of the recognisable Cage memes stem from this piece of work but it's the certainly the template for a bulk of Cages later work...well in the last 15 years or so.

Alva....Aaaaallllva

Ash.J.Williams

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Said like a person who has either overlooked or never seen 'Vampires Kiss' if it's the former get on it immediately! An absolutely bonkers film that you couldn't imagine being made today Cage is woeful in it with diabolical attempt at a British accent to boot ...but he's so ridiculously captivating and some of the lines are something else, most should really have a right laugh how astonishingly bad this is. Recommended to those who got a kick out of 'The Room' for sure.

Also a lot of the recognisable Cage memes stem from this piece of work but it's the certainly the template for a bulk of Cages later work...well in the last 15 years or so.

Alva....Aaaaallllva

Ha cage is amazing in vampires kiss

Capt'n Midnight

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I've seen them. But he doesn't bring anything to them. You could replace him with a WWF star or get someone off a Scandinavian police series. For action movies you just need someone competent who won't distract from the action.

Ok. So he didn’t put you off those movies then. Cool.

And you kinda need stars for movies, they attract people. Could someone else do Mission Impossible? Sure. Would the box office be the same. Not so sure.

Wrongway1985

angel eyes 2012 wrote: »

Andie MacDowell. She is just blessed she picked great comedies in Four Weddings and Groundhog Day.

'Ready or Not' arguably her best role though ha.

Wrongway1985

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

One of the best out there in my opinion.

Brilliant in anything I’ve seen her in.

Thor - brilliant as Hella
The Aviator - brilliant as Catherine Hepburn

She was the best thing about the utter sh1tshow that was Indiana Jones 4.

Agreed surely the worst shout on this thread.

One of the most versatile actors there is, As you hint an actor who can even elevate some the duds she's been in. 'Pushing Tin' springs to mind she had no business putting in a shift for that clanger.

Fantastic in Mrs. America and Carol in recent years.

the purple tin

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Ha cage is amazing in vampires kiss

A captivating and totally bonkers performance in the remake of The Wicker Man as well
I enjoyed those National Treasure films too.

Suckit

Lately I have been randomly selecting a year and a genre and then picking a movie from it, I was doing the 80's/90's but most are sooo cheesy bad, I am now focusing mainly on the 70's and very early 80's.

Charlie Sheen... I knew he was bad, but the other night I watched The Rookie.. My decision maker. The dialogue is terrible in general to be fair, but his acting is worse. But I can't help recommending that people watch it, knowing it's that bad.

One of the scenes..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkuHQdFq3E

"C'Mon Mother Fugga's!!" - "Let's get hot"

Mad_maxx

one man towers over everyone else in the " bad actor " stakes

Vin Diesel

he speaks in exactly the same tone in every single scene

Mad_maxx

Homelander wrote: »

Casper Van Dien.

Won't hear a bad word about Nic Cage though. No matter how low he sinks, he really gives it his all. So many terrible movies that are strangely compelling due to his unhinged performance.

Can't remember the name but watched one recently where his dead wife was reincarnated in his girlfriend's teenage daughters body. It was so unbelivably awful, yet brilliant, due to his unhinged performance.

ive rarely not watched anything through with Cage in it , great screen presence even its dogsh1t on the screen

Tipsy McSwagger

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Daniel overact Lewis

Probably the greatest of all time. Could even play you someday in My Left Foot 2.

Mad_maxx

Macdarack wrote: »

Denzel Washington, just don't like him maybe, seems to play the same character everytime,
Probably get bashed for that one but just needed to say it.

he raises the quality of any old crap by just being in it , incredible charisma

Mad_maxx

chewed wrote: »

Sean Connery. Truly awful actor

but a truly fantastic movie star , like clint eastwood , he doesnt have much range but it doesnt really matter

roger moore was a dreadful actor but i still liked him in bond

billyhead

Littlehorny wrote: »

I mentioned Cruise a few pages back saying he hadn't actually acted in the last twenty years so i looked up his film list since 2001 and there is a hell of a lot of films where he's just Tom Cruise in it and I'd have to say Collateral is one of the very few movies where i would say he was alright in.
Maybe that's more down to Collateral being a good film, likewise I enjoyed American Made an enjoyable film.
But Cruise is a mega star and gets paid the very top dollar so judging him as someone who is supposedly at the very top pinnacle of his profession, nay sorry a good actor he is not.

He was great in born on the 4th of July.

Tipsy McSwagger

billyhead wrote: »

He was great in born on the 4th of July.

And should have won an Oscar for Magnolia, a truly stunning performance. He also gives a better performance than Hoffman in Rain Man.

crazy 88

maestroamado wrote: »

Jack Nicholson...
Sorry i was thinking of best or likely favourite...

He has some great performances but you can tell a lot of it is just his natural character

Arghus

I think Aiden Gillen is truly atrocious and wooden in every single thing he's in. I can't understand how he keeps finding work.

crazy 88

chewed wrote: »

Sean Connery. Truly awful actor

Connery gets a lot of unfair criticism I think. He made a genuine attempt to break away from the Bond typecasting. Like the no nonsense prohibition cop he played in the Untouchables and Indiana Jones's bungling dad. These were nothing like Bond. At least he made an effort outside of Bond, unlike Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan

crazy 88

Robert Robford. Thought he was very bland when he was at his most popular but seemed to put in a bit more effort in his later years in smaller low budget films. "All is lost" is a good example

crazy 88

Leonardo DiCaprio. He seems to have only 2 modes - really angry or really crazy. But when he does them, he does them well

crazy 88

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Raising Arizona
Snake Eyes
Con Air
The Rock
Lord of War
Leaving Las Vegas
Bad Lieutenant
Matchstick Men

Loads of them TBH.

crazy 88

Oink wrote: »

Actors who’ve stopped acting. Like De Niro. He just comes over, does his Italian gangster shtick and leaves.

I was amazed when I saw the King of Comedy, the most un-deniro thing he's ever done. It's a shame he got too comfortable with the hard man act

Tarah04

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

And should have won an Oscar for Magnolia, a truly stunning performance. He also gives a better performance than Hoffman in Rain Man.

Yis are forgetting his great part in Interview With The Vampire lads. Ye missed that one.

You're welcome ☺️ :pac:

RandomViewer

There seems to be a bit of confusion, when people go to see a Vin Diesel film they want Vin Diesel mumbling and smashing cars, same for Gerard Butler, film goers arent looking for a version of The Merchant of Venice, the want grunts and explosions

Wedwood

crazy 88 wrote: »

Connery gets a lot of unfair criticism I think. He made a genuine attempt to break away from the Bond typecasting. Like the no nonsense prohibition cop he played in the Untouchables and Indiana Jones's bungling dad. These were nothing like Bond. At least he made an effort outside of Bond, unlike Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan

Roger Moore made some decent movies outside of Bond: The Man who Haunted Himself, The Wild Geese, Gold, The Sea Wolves, North Sea Hijack.

Pierce Brosnan did Mrs Doubtfire, The Tailor of Panama, The Lawnmower Man, of and not forgetting Mamma Mia!

crazy 88

Wedwood wrote: »

Pierce Brosnan did Mrs Doubtfire, The Tailor of Panama, The Lawnmower Man, of and not forgetting Mamma Mia!

I think he's actually playing James Bond in these two.

The other two, I presume you are throwing in for the laugh.

littlevillage

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Nicholas Cage.

Brilliant in Raising Arizona. Utterly awful in pretty much everything else he’s ever been in.

Very good in

Red Rock West
Wild at Heart
Knowing
Bad Lieutenant
Leaving Las Vegas (Oscar winning)

olestoepoke

So we have Daniel Day Lewis, Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, Robert De niro and Al Pachino all mentioned in a thread about bad actors. I'll name a few others, Gene Hackman, Marlon Brando, Anthony Hopkins and Paul Newman. Am I doing it right?

PTH2009

Danny Dyer

littlevillage

How is Jason Statham not all over this b1tch?

If he's in a film, I refuse to watch it. Simple as that

billyhead

Steven Seagal.

Mad_maxx

RandomViewer wrote: »

There seems to be a bit of confusion, when people go to see a Vin Diesel film they want Vin Diesel mumbling and smashing cars, same for Gerard Butler, film goers arent looking for a version of The Merchant of Venice, the want grunts and explosions

Yes but Vin Diesel doesn't even have any range in his speaking voice , he'd be awful at anything which requires speech

Church on Tuesday

crazy 88 wrote: »

Yup. And you can add Face/Off to that list too.

They're fun hammy action films and they are great for that. I'm not always in the mood for serous cinema.

Mad_maxx

littlevillage wrote: »

How is Jason Statham not all over this b1tch?

If he's in a film, I refuse to watch it. Simple as that

Great charisma

Mad_maxx

olestoepoke wrote: »

So we have Daniel Day Lewis, Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, Robert De niro and Al Pachino all mentioned in a thread about bad actors. I'll name a few others, Gene Hackman, Marlon Brando, Anthony Hopkins and Paul Newman. Am I doing it right?

You are indeed Sir

I'll throw in laurence olivier for sh1ts and giggles

Mad_maxx

Wedwood wrote: »

Roger Moore made some decent movies outside of Bond: The Man who Haunted Himself, The Wild Geese, Gold, The Sea Wolves, North Sea Hijack.

Pierce Brosnan did Mrs Doubtfire, The Tailor of Panama, The Lawnmower Man, of and not forgetting Mamma Mia!

Both terrible actors, Pierce Brosnan can't even do an Irish accent

Insect Overlord

littlevillage wrote: »

How is Jason Statham not all over this b1tch?

If he's in a film, I refuse to watch it. Simple as that

First role I saw him in was the psychopathic goalkeeper The Monk in Mean Machine. Ever since then he's alright in my book!

crazy 88

olestoepoke wrote: »

So we have Daniel Day Lewis, Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, Robert De niro and Al Pachino all mentioned in a thread about bad actors. I'll name a few others, Gene Hackman, Marlon Brando, Anthony Hopkins and Paul Newman. Am I doing it right?

Is this guy a porn star?

olestoepoke

crazy 88 wrote: »

Is this guy a porn star?

Pardon me did I spell his name wrong?:D

SimonTemplar

I watched a video on Youtube recently about overrated actors. Actors who aren't necessarily bad but just overrated. She mentioned Tom Hanks because she said he doesn't have the versatility of someone like Daniel Day Lewis or even Jimmy Stewart.

I disagree with the rationale that the absence of a wide range of performances is automatically a negative against the actor. OK, Hanks may not be a chameleon as much as Day Lewis, but he has still given some excellent performances within his range.

Same with Tom Cruise or Sean Connery or a lot of other actors mentioned here. A limited range doesn't mean they are bad actors. Take a bad actor from an American daytime soap, or even some of the lesser actors from 90s Star Trek, and put them into the the roles that Cruise had in Mission Impossible and A Few Good Men, or Connery's roles in The Hill or The Untouchables, and you'd see what bad acting really is.

So I think it is unfair to equate "bad acting" with great acting within the actor's natural range. I think it is like calling a great abstract artist a bad painter because they can't paint still life.

olestoepoke

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I watched a video on Youtube recently about overrated actors. Actors who aren't necessarily bad but just overrated. She mentioned Tom Hanks because she said he doesn't have the versatility of someone like Daniel Day Lewis or even Jimmy Stewart.

I disagree with the rationale that the absence of a wide range of performances is automatically a negative against the actor. OK, Hanks may not be a chameleon as much as Day Lewis, but he has still given some excellent performances within his range.

Same with Tom Cruise or Sean Connery or a lot of other actors mentioned here. A limited range doesn't mean they are bad actors. Take a bad actor from an American daytime soap, or even some of the lesser actors from 90s Star Trek, and put them into the the roles that Cruise had in Mission Impossible and A Few Good Men, or Connery's roles in The Hill or The Untouchables, and you'd see what bad acting really is.

So I think it is unfair to equate "bad acting" with great acting within the actor's natural range. I think it is like calling a great abstract artist a bad painter because they can't paint still life.

Great post, I also think that sometimes people take a personal disliking to a certain actor and are bias toward him/her. I cannot stand Gerard Butler, is he a bad actor? Not sure I never give him enough time to convince me otherwise.

the purple tin

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I watched a video on Youtube recently about overrated actors. Actors who aren't necessarily bad but just overrated. She mentioned Tom Hanks because she said he doesn't have the versatility of someone like Daniel Day Lewis or even Jimmy Stewart.

I disagree with the rationale that the absence of a wide range of performances is automatically a negative against the actor. OK, Hanks may not be a chameleon as much as Day Lewis, but he has still given some excellent performances within his range.

Same with Tom Cruise or Sean Connery or a lot of other actors mentioned here. A limited range doesn't mean they are bad actors. Take a bad actor from an American daytime soap, or even some of the lesser actors from 90s Star Trek, and put them into the the roles that Cruise had in Mission Impossible and A Few Good Men, or Connery's roles in The Hill or The Untouchables, and you'd see what bad acting really is.

So I think it is unfair to equate "bad acting" with great acting within the actor's natural range. I think it is like calling a great abstract artist a bad painter because they can't paint still life.

Yes like there are some great character actors around who are excellent at what they do, directors hire them because they know exactly what they are getting.

AllForIt

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Both terrible actors, Pierce Brosnan can't even do an Irish accent

I thought Pierce Brosnan was brilliant in the TV series Remminton Steel, but was terrible as James Bond. His James Bond was so dour and unlikable.