Bad Actors

Tipsy McSwagger

Heckler wrote: »

Don't really get the ragging on Depp. Ok after Sparrow there was the Hatter and such and he got a bit typecast. Have a look at his filmography. Hugely diverse roles. IMO Edward Scissorhands was his finest. Probably 10 lines in the entire movie and its a classic.

Nah Ed Wood is his best. His last great film and performance is probably Donnie Branco.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Except that Andrew Robinson, alone, blows your argument out of the water

Actually; thinking of the actors who were on this.


Recurring: Jeffrey Coombs, Frank Langella (Oscar Nom, Tony Win), Louise Fletcher (only Nurse Ratched), Tony Todd, Wallace Shawn

Cast: René Auberjonois, Arimin Shimerman, Meaney



And most of the rest were not at all bad.
Most large ensemble shows would love that level of engagement

Theworldisy

I love films but i don't know why but i just think for me Cage stands out when bad actors are mentioned. Just can't warm to him. Only film i've seen him in that i taught he was good was On Frozen Ground. Just my opinion. Johnny Deep getting a few mentions. Blow, Donnie Brasco, Blackmass. Can't be having him in that category.

Theworldisy

I know it's film related this thread but i think Dev out of Coronation Street may win by a wide margin if we where including just acting in general.

RandomViewer

Theworldisy wrote: »

I know it's film related this thread but i think Dev out of Coronation Street may win by a wide margin if we where including just acting in general.

He's bad but the moaning vicar in Emmerdale leaves him for dust

Al Hansen: Guy who replaced him was not much better...

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0360637/

Losendos

Soap casts tend to be fairly mixed ability, but he is in a league of his own. Whenever I see him, (my wife is a Corrie fan), I'm always astonished that someone so untalented can have a professional career.

Closer to home, the late Mick Lally was a wonderful actor, whom I was lucky enough to see many times on stage.

Anyone who only knew him from the travesty that was Glenroe, would probably not hold him in high regard as an actor.

flasher0030

Theworldisy wrote: »

I love films but i don't know why but i just think for me Cage stands out when bad actors are mentioned. Just can't warm to him. Only film i've seen him in that i taught he was good was On Frozen Ground. Just my opinion. Johnny Deep getting a few mentions. Blow, Donnie Brasco, Blackmass. Can't be having him in that category.[/Q

You must have a serious issue with Cage. He must have done a bad number on you in the past. Few days ago you put up numerous posts criticising him. Now you're back, randomly on about him again. The man has done well for himself. Won an oscar, nominated in the top or 8 or whatever it is for another film. In plenty of successful action films (Con Air, Face-off, The Rock) etc.
If you want to pick a proper bad actor, then someone like Aaron Eckhert would fit the bill. Saw him in some detective role in a movie few nights ago. A man of many facial expressions - most of them like like he is constantly riled up about something and looks like he's about to explode.
People name Depp, Jared Leto etc. because the acting that they do is more subdued than the likes of Pitt, DiCaprio, Cruise. I don't agree with that. I've seen Depp and Leto in many films and they can really play a variety of roles. Saw Leto in a film last night. The little things. He played a bit of a loose cannon character. He was very good. Film wasn't though.

RandomViewer

Losendos wrote: »

Soap casts tend to be fairly mixed ability, but he is in a league of his own. Whenever I see him, (my wife is a Corrie fan), I'm always astonished that someone so untalented can have a professional career.

Closer to home, the late Mick Lally was a wonderful actor, whom I was lucky enough to see many times on stage.

Anyone who only knew him from the travesty that was Glenroe, would probably not hold him in high regard as an actor.

The problem with Irish shows that too many of the actors are stage/pantomime actors and keep hamming too the audience

B-D-P--

I think Amanda Schull from suits (Katrina) is a terrible actor.
Non of the case are great but she is terrible

B-D-P--

B-D-P-- wrote: »

I think Amanda Schull from suits (Katrina) is a terrible actor.
Non of the case are great but she is terrible

I don't know, I get the feeling that she was told to be weird, for when she was Litt's protégée . When she goes to Zane's firm you see her much more normal acting and she was not that weird in the episodes as a DA either

I've not seen 12 Monkeys, she was in that too yeah? What was she like there?

And none of the cast? You leave Gina Torres alone and "Wash" out your mouth...

Tony EH

A lot of the actors being named here aren't "bad". They're just glorified character actors. They play a particular character in every film they appear in, such as John Wayne or Clint Eastwood. Even Harrison Ford is a character actor. Meaning they have a very limited range and a character they are comfortable in. But what they do with that limited range and the roles they carefully select suit them and they can elevate a film merely by doing their shtick, as we can clearly see especially with the likes of someone like Eastwood or Kevin Kostner. They're really just playing a version of themselves, which is basically par the course for the majority of film actors.

A bad actor is someone who can't act in the role they've been given, such as Keanu Reeves, or in some cases roles they've given themselves, like Neil Breen who has to be seen to be believed.

The reality, though, is that there are few actors that can inhabit a role so completely that they seem to change from film to film. Someone like Daniel Day Lewis throws himself into a part and "becomes" that person for a limited time, so seeing him in 'My Left Foot', 'Lincoln' or 'There Will Be Blood' is like watching very different people. Or looking at Sean Penn in 'Casualties of War' or in 'Carlito's Way'. While both characters are nasty little ****s there are so in very different ways. Or take Meryl Streep in 'The Deer Hunter' or 'The Post' where she plays two vastly different people very convincingly. Each example is an actor who had tried to become the person that is demanded of the role.

On the other hand, someone like Charles Bronson just turns up with his charismatic attributes and says his lines.

Brussels Sprout

Losendos wrote: »

Closer to home, the late Mick Lally was a wonderful actor, whom I was lucky enough to see many times on stage.

Anyone who only knew him from the travesty that was Glenroe, would probably not hold him in high regard as an actor.

Speaking of which, his daughters in that show were the worst child actors I've ever seen in anything.

Losendos

As far as I know, none of his children followed him into the profession.

Acting talent isn't necessarily hereditary, although you wouldn't know that from the various mini dynasties of acting families that have sprung up.

Hercule Poirot

Losendos wrote: »

As far as I know, none of his children followed him into the profession.

Acting talent isn't necessarily hereditary, although you wouldn't know that from the various mini dynasties of acting families that have sprung up.

He meant the people playing his daughters, not his actual daughters

Sakana

I'd have said Morgan Freeman before I'd seen Street Smart. He is a scary man in that.

fryup

Johnny Depp

RandomViewer wrote: »

Tried too watch Black Mass a few months ago but the make up was too off putting

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Yeah the makeup was petty bad but his performance was easily the best in years. Chilling.

mesmerising, maybe it was the contacts he was wearing but my god what a performance easily his best..he should do more

Agent Coulson

Joel Kinnaman I know English isn't his first language however he is just awful.

Jai Courtney as well.

Sakana

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Jai Courtney as well.

A human hamburger.

Homelander

I actually agree with Jai Courtney and have always found him horrible but I really like Joel Kinnaman.

He's great in For All Mankind and Altered Carbon.

Quantum Erasure

Anyone said Adrian Dunbar yet? Don't know if it's his accent or what, but he always sounds like he's just reading his lines

Hercule Poirot

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Anyone said Adrian Dunbar yet? Don't know if it's his accent or what, but he always sounds like he's just reading his lines

You shut your whore mouth!

Banjaxed82

Tom Cruise can definitely act. He's just more interested in brand Cruise than the craft of acting. He was superb in Magnolia.

Tom Cruise is a good actor in my opinion even though I wouldn't be into many of his films. He was brilliant in Minority Report and Magnolia.

TheRef

I'm shocked with so many of the names people are putting out. It seems the tone seems to be that either they are one of the the best actors in the world or they are a bad actor.

The only name I've seen listed in the scan of the thread I would agree with is Steven Segal.

I'll add Jaden Smith, but (adult) Abigail Breslin is top of the list.

Abigail played Little Rock in Zombieland: Double Tap and I think this is the only half decent movie I can recall where a main character shows absolutely zero ability to act.

RandomViewer

TheRef wrote: »

I'm shocked with so many of the names people are putting out. It seems the tone seems to be that either they are one of the the best actors in the world or they are a bad actor.

The only name I've seen listed in the scan of the thread I would agree with is Steven Segal.

I'll add Jaden Smith, but (adult) Abigail Breslin is top of the list.

Abigail played Little Rock in Zombieland: Double Tap and I think this is the only half decent movie I can recall where a main character shows absolutely zero ability to act.

She's good in Once upon a time in Hollywood

fryup

Tom Cruise is a good actor in my opinion even though I wouldn't be into many of his films. He was brilliant in Minority Report and Magnolia.

born on the fourth of july was easily his best, and he should have won an oscar for it

murpho999

fryup wrote: »

born on the fourth of july was easily his best, and he should have won an oscar for it

It was a great performance and Oscar worthy but he was unfortunate to come up against Daniel Day Lewis in My Left Foot which was a level above and a deserved winner.

flasher0030

RandomViewer wrote: »

She's good in Once upon a time in Hollywood

Was she in Once upon a time in hollywood?

Relikk

RandomViewer wrote: »

She's good in Once upon a time in Hollywood

Are you thinking of Dakota Fanning?

RandomViewer

Relikk wrote: »

Are you thinking of Dakota Fanning?

Might be right, young girl that Pitt takes out to the ranch?

Wrongway1985

RandomViewer wrote: »

Might be right, young girl that Pitt takes out to the ranch?

Andie MacDowells young one, Margaret Qualley?

RandomViewer

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Andie MacDowells young one, Margaret Qualley?

My mistake, whatever notion I had that she was in it, I

Quantum Erasure

Theworldisy wrote: »

If you can name good cage films happy to listen.

Peggy Sue got Married

murpho999

Theworldisy wrote: »

If you can name good cage films happy to listen.

Seriously?

Moonstrick
Face/Off
Adaption
Leaving Las Vegas - For which he won an oscar.
Raising Arizona
Lord of War

That's just a few that spring to mind

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Seriously?

Moonstrick
Face/Off
Adaption
Leaving Las Vegas - For which he won an oscar.
Raising Arizona
Lord of War

That's just a few that spring to mind

Wild at heart.......he NAILED that one......love that movie

murpho999

Deleted User wrote: »

Wild at heart.......he NAILED that one......love that movie

Yes, another one.

I think the problem is that some people can't seem to distinguish between bad films and bad acting.

Every good actor has made a bad film.

Quantum Erasure

RandomViewer wrote: »

Jason Manford turned up in an episode of Death in Paradise, that was bad acting

Dougal, theres another one who sounds like he's just reading lines for the first time... he was brilliant in father Ted, but Death in Paradise, that super-hero one, my family I think it was called, just seemed like an actor reading lines rather than an actual character

Ash.J.Williams

Corben Dallas wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Colm Meaney is a bad actor needs to see Layer Cake... he really shines as Gene.

Plus great cast Michael Gambon, Daniel Craig, George Harris , Burn Gorman, the Duke and of course... Sienna Miller ]:)

(Yes I copied it from IMDB )
If you liked Snatch, Lock Stock etc, you have to see this film.

He was the best actor in gangs of London too

Samsonsmasher

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

I don't watch Mission Impossible because Cruise is in them.

Plenty of people do, though. Star power is a real thing.

RandomViewer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Dougal, theres another one who sounds like he's just reading lines for the first time... he was brilliant in father Ted, but Death in Paradise, that super-hero one, my family I think it was called, just seemed like an actor reading lines rather than an actual character

He's only in My Hero for a few seasons they replaced him with the camp flatmate from Gimme Gimme Gimme, cant remember his name and too lazy to look it up

French Toast

Thought Jon Hamm was excellent in Mad Men. Poor enough in just about everything else I've seen him in.

Hercule Poirot

French Toast wrote: »

Thought Jon Hamm was excellent in Mad Men. Poor enough in just about everything else I've seen him in.

Well the only thing I've really seen him in is Kimmy Schmidt and I thought he was really good in that, although I'll grant you that it wasn't a serious role

Theworldisy

Anyway again Cage is for me number one bad actor. Its not about bad films with him every film he is in is unwatchable as mostly he's the main character.

Hercule Poirot

Theworldisy wrote: »

Most polls has Cage and Keanu Reeves as the top. Reeves is good. Cage for me is just the same in every film wooden only got into acting because of who he knew.

Absolutely not, a fantastic actor until his money troubles got the better of him

He had a few duds before the money troubles started, Wicker Man being the most obvious one, but he put in some excellent performances in the 80's and 90's

PetitPois89

Ben Affleck - he’s so forced
Pierce Brosnan is a terrible actor, so wooden and IMO the 2nd worst Bond
Tommy Tiernan is woeful in Derry Girls
Owen Wilson - diabolical
Mark Wahlberg-plays one character and that’s it

Capt. Autumn

Terence Rattigan wrote: »

Brendan O Carroll`s missus, woeful.

Ahhh, Mammy.

Insect Overlord

PetitPois89 wrote: »

Owen Wilson - diabolical

Hilarious in Zoolander, perfect in Midnight In Paris, and consistently watchable in his work with Wes Anderson.

RandomViewer

French Toast wrote: »

Thought Jon Hamm was excellent in Mad Men. Poor enough in just about everything else I've seen him in.

Baby Driver?

janja

Rory Cowan aka Bosco on Fair city! Woeful!