LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day, part 2

Padre_Pio

Bigus wrote: »

One of the reasons to buy classics luxobarges was to take the tax advantage of driving a big engined powerful car on low tax.

I thought the benefit was to buy a 80-120k car for less than the cost of a small motorbike :D

Don't understand drag race video, no one ever bought an S-Class because of it's 0-60 times.

filbert the fox

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Donedeal should give people a standard template.

At a minimum there should be an angled picture of the car's best side, then picture of every side straight on. Picture of engine, interior, dash, driver seat, wheels, steering wheel.

All taken in full daylight, with a clean car.

Hey and what about the basics? --- Mileage, Tax cost, number of owners, NCT status and a ban on the following wording:
"first to see will buy...." drives me scatty.

AAAAAAAAnnnnnnndddddddddd don't photograph a car with the suds you just washed off on the ground. Drive it 10metres and have a nice bit of greenery in the background.

traco

Padre_Pio wrote: »

I thought the benefit was to buy a 80-120k car for less than the cost of a small motorbike :D

Don't understand drag race video, no one ever bought an S-Class because of it's 0-60 times.

Yep, very fair point. In its day though the XJS or the 6.9 would have been rockets compared to the average cars on the road at the time. They would also have been much more plush.


All but the most powerful ICE stuff will be slow compared to the run of the mill EV stuff in a few years but will the milk floats have the presence, comfort, ride and quality of materials of a luxobarge? I think not and doubt the will last or still be a conversation piece like the XJS or a 6.9 Merc.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lincoln-royale-limousine-left-hand-drive/27569230



Is this bargey enough!? Tax and test til August, €4200

Truckermal

My old LS the week I sold it! I got fed up of things going wrong so I bought a Renault instead..:o

TigerTim

Didn't think anything went wrong with Lexus.

T.

Midnight_EG

TigerTim wrote: »

Didn't think anything went wrong with Lexus.

T.

It doesn't, his was just crap :pac:

Truckermal

Midnight_EG wrote: »

It doesn't, his was just crap :pac:

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Top Dog

Truckermal wrote: »

My old LS the week I sold it! I got fed up of things going wrong so I bought a Renault instead..:o

And had the Renault proved more reliable?

newmember2

Truckermal wrote: »

My old LS the week I sold it! I got fed up of things going wrong so I bought a Renault instead..:o

What sort of issues? Did you post them on here?

Normal One

I reckon that the prevalence of screens for everything will affect future values of cars from the last 10 years. What is brilliant technology now might age terribly, assuming they even last 20+ years. I think Bugatti have the right idea in keeping digital displays to a minimum. I also can't imagine an E66 will ever be desirable like an E38 is.

Truckermal

newmember? wrote: »

What sort of issues? Did you post them on here?

Suspension was tired and it was drinking oil even though it had a full Lexus history!

Lurching

Truckermal wrote: »

Suspension was tired and it was drinking oil even though it had a full Lexus history!

Full dealer service history doesn't rule out someone driving the absolute bag out of it.

emergencylime

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Donedeal should give people a standard template.

At a minimum there should be an angled picture of the car's best side, then picture of every side straight on. Picture of engine, interior, dash, driver seat, wheels, steering wheel.

All taken in full daylight, with a clean car.

The Turo (airbnb for cars) App has car angle outlines when you’re taking the photos at the time of collecting the car, so it wouldn’t be impossible to add.

Does the DoneDeal ad uploading have an option to rotate?

My mini-rant is an ad with 37 Matrix-style photos of the outside but none of the interior.

Lurching

emergencylime wrote: »

Does the DoneDeal ad uploading have an option to rotate?

It does. It's super easy.

cadaliac

Truckermal wrote: »

Suspension was tired and it was drinking oil even though it had a full Lexus history!

Sorry Truckermal - can you elaborate ? I would be very interested to know as I was seriously considering one but won't if they are not reliable.
The Suspension getting tired worries me.
I completely understand if you don't want to go into detail.

Midnight_EG

cadaliac wrote: »

Sorry Truckermal - can you elaborate ? I would be very interested to know as I was seriously considering one but won't if they are not reliable.
The Suspension getting tired worries me.
I completely understand if you don't want to go into detail.

It's common for the standard air suspension to fail after so many years and they're expensive to fix, but you can buy normal coil on spring for them to replace it. The oil consumption is generally a rocker gasket failing, as is also common. My own, in the last year with a dodgy rocker gasket has used maybe 2l of oil but that's it.

Lurching

Rocker gaskets can't be overly expensive to replace with an independent garage, surely?

Midnight_EG

Lurching wrote: »

Rocker gaskets can't be overly expensive to replace with an independent garage, surely?

They're not simple to replace, I've done mine and took about 3 hours

newmember2

Midnight_EG wrote: »

It's common for the standard air suspension to fail after so many years and they're expensive to fix, but you can buy normal coil on spring for them to replace it. The oil consumption is generally a rocker gasket failing, as is also common. My own, in the last year with a dodgy rocker gasket has used maybe 2l of oil but that's it.

How does a rocker gasket issue lead to oil consumption? A bad leak?? I'd hardly sell a car over a leaking rocker cover gasket - surely it was burning oil.

Lurching

You would think that excess pressure up under the rockers could be a sign of piston ring wear.
But maybe the layout of that engine means there's constantly pressure there.

Midnight_EG

newmember? wrote: »

How does a rocker gasket issue lead to oil consumption? A bad leak?? I'd hardly sell a car over a leaking rocker cover gasket - surely it was burning oil.

Tends to fail at the spark plug holes, when I did mine plugs 1 and 2 on the left bank were both full to the top with oil. Also common to leak in behind the high pressure fuel pump.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-sport-model-low-mileage-fresh-nct-05-22/27615572





Nice spec 730 with low miles and one previous owner, €5k

I see comfort seats, adaptive cruise, comfort access

Duke O Smiley

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d/27531551



Hard to judge spec from such a poor ad but it has comfort seats at least.

Claiming FSH and 4 new continental tyres, €3250. Theres something charming about the pre-facelift 7s now IMO.

This is down to €2300. Lovely car for that money, taxed and tested and seemingly ready to go

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d/27531551

Lurching

Interesting that everything unique (classics and sports cars) are going ballistic in value at the moment, but a 730D isn't selling.
Maybe that one has big issues.

selectamatic

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-sport-model-low-mileage-fresh-nct-05-22/27615572


Nice spec 730 with low miles and one previous owner, €5k

I see comfort seats, adaptive cruise, comfort access

The best wheels for those 7 series by far too.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-bmw-730li-nct-and-tax/27780097



Terrible spec 730Li, €3850

A petrol E65/6 of any description is a rare thing

Eric Cartman

That was 100% bought as a hotel/big corporate chauffeur car , literally no options on it except lwb.

astraj

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-bmw-nct05-22/27771735.

Colour would be questionable.

Sam Russell

astraj wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-bmw-nct05-22/27771735.

Colour would be questionable.

And 6 owners, doing an average of 30,000 km each and less than 14,000 km per year. Hmmm.... such a nice car to have such little use by so many owners?