St. Patrick's Day Protests

timmyntc

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Indeed, it's quite obviously an anti intelligence protest.

Or maybe it is, as they claim, an anti-restrictions protest?

You know that 5km travel rule, that rule that says you cant open your business or earn a living? You can't leave the country, but people are free to come into it? Those restrictions?

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The inner city urchins will cause problems as they always do on paddy’s every day

FYP.

micosoft

Deleted User wrote: »

vast majority are expressing their right to register their displeasure with undemocratic lockdowns in peaceful fashion. Good luck to those standing up for their civil liberties tomorrow, people have been downtrodden long enough.

How often does it have to be said that no right is unlimited and the state has the right and legal authority to add restrictions. It's fine to disagree with the law without lying about it with invented rights. Your claim that folk are downtrodden in Ireland deserves nothing but contempt for not just being dishonest but offensive for those around the world who actually live under repressive regimes.

Eric Cartman

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Some are more moronic than others.

ahh theres the usual face.

Tacitus Kilgore

timmyntc wrote: »

Or maybe it is, as they claim, an anti-restrictions protest?

You know that 5km travel rule, that rule that says you cant open your business or earn a living? You can't leave the country, but people are free to come into it? Those restrictions?

Yeah, I am well aware of the restrictions. Frustrated with them to the point of depression myself, but I'm smart enough to know that just because I don't like the pandemic - doesn't mean I can wish it away by joining a band of clowns to go marching and shouting around Dublin. Nothing will be gained by this event - nothing.




It's a protest against intelligence, or if you prefer - a demonstration of stupidity.

EmmetSpiceland

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

It's ok for these lads though, it'll be "wharrabout BLM, wharrabout travellers, wharrabout RTE" you can see it through the thread already sure, it's always someone else's fault, always.

The ‘Late Late Show’ special on tomorrow will draw a lot of their ire once they shuffle off home.

TomTomTim

micosoft wrote: »

How often does it have to be said that no right is unlimited and the state has the right and legal authority to add restrictions. It's fine to disagree with the law without lying about it with invented rights. Your claim that folk are downtrodden in Ireland deserves nothing but contempt for not just being dishonest but offensive for those around the world who actually live under repressive regimes.

Can you tell what right is in competition with the right to protest here? If you know the law, which you seem to think you do, then you'd know that two rights need to compete for the other to be less applicable.

Tacitus Kilgore

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The ‘Late Late Show’ special on tomorrow will draw a lot of their ire once they shuffle off home.

They absolutely hate RTE but don't realise that you can just look at other stuff :pac:

suicide_circus

Could they combine the lockdown protest with a demo for a progressive cause?

Ninthlife

Ninthlife wrote: »

Can we get odds on the times at which the first 'shame on you' chant will be started by a group of grey tracksuit clad urban athletes..

I'd imagine it will be immediate. Same as the idiots that will shout reclaim our streets and bang on about how #notallmen is misogynistic today.

Arseholes always make tits of themselves.

AdrianBalboa

suicide_circus wrote: »

Could they combine the lockdown protest with a demo for a progressive cause?

They can protest the virus itself by drinking their cans at home.

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

They absolutely hate RTE but don't realise that you can just look at other stuff :pac:

You aren't always forced to pay for something you oppose though

suicide_circus

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

They can protest the virus itself by drinking their cans at home.

Plebs, eh?

Eric Cartman

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Well they're not.

If people can protest in masks while social distancing then they're not superspreader events, but considering that this is a protest in favour of drinking cans with their mates on a Wednesday I imagine that those measures won't be followed.

IF, that hasn't occurred in any of the examples I gave. Every example I gave was a mask free, drink swilling people piled on top covid fest.

AdrianBalboa

suicide_circus wrote: »

Plebs, eh?

This isn't a class thing. I would turn my nose at anyone attending such a protest tomorrow.

AdrianBalboa

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

They can protest the virus itself by drinking their cans at home.

Reducing an argument against lockdown to "want to drink cans with their mates" is disingenuous and petty.

Plenty of people have had their livelihoods ruined and relationships in tatters by inconsistent policing of quarantine methods.

I'm not in favour of the protests but your framing of it is insulting.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

You aren't always forced to pay for something you oppose though

Forced is strong there.... Enjoy your day out anyway, don't let me get ye down

The Nal

The Punter wrote: »

If you can protest blacks being killed in America and women in England, you can sure as hell protest for your rights in your own country.

Fair play to all those going. I'll be there too.

Didn't take long!

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

It's ok for these lads though, it'll be "wharrabout BLM, wharrabout travellers, wharrabout RTE" you can see it through the thread already sure, it's always someone else's fault, always.

wes

They have a right to protests, but not to break out current restrictions. If they are not wearing masks, socially distancing, or breached the 5 KM limit during the protests, then imo fines etc should be handed out on that basis.

We are in the midst of a pandemic, if people want to protests, then at least make the effort to not have your protest be a super spreader event.

Of course these cretins will not wears masks and not socially distance, and instead will put the lives of everyone else on this island in danger due to there selfish hatefull fascist stupidity.

Tacitus Kilgore

Eric Cartman wrote: »

IF, that hasn't occurred in any of the examples I gave. Every example I gave was a mask free, drink swilling people piled on top covid fest.

Have you anything to say about tomorrow's protest or are you just here to wharrabout?

wes

wes wrote: »

They have a right to protests, but not to break out current restrictions. If they are not wearing masks and socially distancing during the protests, then imo fines etc should be handed out on that basis.

We are in the midst of a pandemic, if people want to protests, then at least make the effort to not have your protest be a super spreader event.

Of course these cretins will not wears masks and not socially distance, and instead will put the lives of everyone else on this island in danger due to there selfish hatefull fascist stupidity.

Fascist.....

Jesus wept

Eric Cartman

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Have you anything to say about tomorrow's protest or are you just here to wharrabout?

as per my original post in this thread :

Every single one of these protests are moronic and dangerous superspreader events,

AdrianBalboa

Deleted User wrote: »

Reducing an argument against lockdown to "want to drink cans with their mates" is disingenuous and petty.

Plenty of people have had their livelihoods ruined and relationships in tatters by inconsistent policing of quarantine methods.

I'm not in favour of the protests but your framing of it is insulting.

I am insulting them but I genuinely to believe the majority of the people there will be troublemakers looking for an excuse to get lairy with their friends. Their "civil liberties" mewling holds no water in my view.

TomTomTim

The Nal wrote: »

Didn't take long!

What exactly is the issue with pointing out flagrant hypocrisy? A truly principled person would be against all protests, as they all carry a similar risk.

Tacitus Kilgore

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Cant wait to see the usual faces come in here to condemn this protest who were utterly silent on the george njchenko funeral , the traveller funeral, the ruth coppinger protest and the uk vigil.

Every single one of these protests are moronic and dangerous superspreader events, I dont think anyone can come in to any thread and loudly condemn one without having condemned them all.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

as per my original post in this thread :

I dunno, it reads like you refer to the protests you listed, rather than the one at hand.. maybe I'm over analysing it..........

AdrianBalboa

The Punter wrote: »

The great thing is, no one is forcing you to go. You can sit at home in fear and submission of the plague.

That's true and I'll still be sitting at home in six months waiting for the fourth/fifth/sixth wave to pass thanks to the heroes out on the lash tomorrow.

AdrianBalboa

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

I am insulting them but I genuinely to believe the majority of the people there will be troublemakers looking for an excuse to get lairy with their friends. Their "civil liberties" mewling holds no water in my view.

No offence Adrian, but your "genuine belief" doesn't override their right to protest.

I know there will be plenty of troublemakers who are turning up tomorrow and will probably act the maggot, but that doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is without merit.

I'm sure you are wholeheartedly in support to the protest today?

Eric Cartman

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I dunno, it reads like you refer to the protests you listed, rather than the one at hand.. maybe I'm over analysing it..........

I thought ' Every single one of these protests ' was a broad enough statement but sure just incase. Tomorrows anti lockdown / NP / SF / Yellow Vest / Can swilling whatever they want to call it protest is a disgrace and a super spreader event that should not go ahead.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

No offence Adrian, but your "genuine belief" doesn't override their right to protest.

I know there will be plenty of troublemakers who are turning up tomorrow and will probably act the maggot, but that doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is without merit.

I'm sure you are wholeheartedly in support to the protest today?

It is without merit, they have no workable proposal for anything. It's a rabble fest and recruitment drive for barrett, gilroy, doherty and the rest of the band of merry arseholes.

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

It is without merit, they have no workable proposal for anything. It's a rabble fest and recruitment drive for barrett, gilroy, doherty and the rest of the band of merry arseholes.

Ok... And what workable proposal does the protest today have?

I'm very interested.

Tacitus Kilgore

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I thought ' Every single one of these protests ' was a broad enough statement but sure just incase. Tomorrows anti lockdown / NP / SF / Yellow Vest / Can swilling whatever they want to call it protest is a disgrace and a super spreader event that should not go ahead.

I dont think SF are pushing it but I actually like the inclusion - there are plenty of SF supporters that have absolutely no idea what their politics are - and will be front and centre at an "event" like this.

The Nal

TomTomTim wrote: »

What exactly is the issue with pointing out flagrant hypocrisy? A truly principled person would be against all protests, as they all carry a similar risk.

Yeah I am. When they're done like that anyway. Hastily organised on social media echo chambers.

They're all thickos.

Imagine spending your day in town waving anti RTE flags, posting pictures on social media and shouting at the police thinking its going to make the slightest bit of a difference.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok... And what workable proposal does the protest today have?

I'm very interested.

What protest? It's tomorrow - no?

The Punter wrote: »

Well sure you'll have to organise a counter protest if we're all so evil

Didn't say evil - I said stupid - and they're protesting for change but without defining what they want - it's kinda - pointless no?

Eric Cartman

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I dont think SF are pushing it but I actually like the inclusion - there are plenty of SF supporters that have absolutely no idea what their politics are - and will be front and centre at an "event" like this.

they may not be the organisers but theres a chunk of them in there, so its included.

suicide_circus

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

This isn't a class thing. I would turn my nose at anyone attending such a protest tomorrow.

I think class plays a big part in it actually. The self regarding poe-faced metro bourgeoisie are largely insulated for the financial impacts of lockdown and are, even at the best of times, fond of looking down their nose at the great unwashed and their cans.

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What protest? It's tomorrow - no?

There's a protest today for that poor woman that was killed in England.

Are you against that too?

Scuid Mhór

How divorced from reality can someone be to prioritise a day of cans over a deadly virus? This is becoming parodic at this point.

The Nal

The Punter wrote: »

Making your voice heard is pointless? Wow.

Someone should tell blm.

You have your voice here now.

Whats your solution to all this?

Just "end the lockdown" is it?

Thelonious Monk

Again, looked like probably 90% normal decent people at the last protest, and they're ridiculed in the media and from all angles for daring to protest against something that is ruining many lives with the restrictions and being mismanaged.
I cant speak for tomorrows one though maybe its a bunch of nutters who have organised this one.

.anon.

Deleted User wrote: »

I know there will be plenty of troublemakers who are turning up tomorrow and will probably act the maggot, but that doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is without merit.

You're right, that doesn't mean that the protest as a whole is without merit. Even if they all remained six feet apart, wearing masks and everyone behaved themselves throughout, the protest would still be without merit. Because what they're looking for (a return to 'normal', which we'd all fucking like) is simply not workable right now.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

There's a protest today for that poor woman that was killed in England.

Are you against that too?

Yes, but what's that got to do with this?

The Punter wrote: »

Making your voice heard is pointless? Wow.

Someone should tell blm.

Sorry lads, wharrabout other stuff is very defeatest of you - have you got to resort to that already?

What are we here to discuss? there's PLENTY of threads to discuss BLM, and Vigils in the UK.

bocaman

Anyone going there tomorrow knows in advance there's going to be trouble. Gemma's goons and the other assorted far right wing nuts, the nonIrish Freedom Party, INP, will be out to have a go at the Gardai. So dont say you weren't warned.

Tacitus Kilgore

bocaman wrote: »

Anyone going there tomorrow knows in advance there's going to be trouble. Gemma's goons and the other assorted far right wing nuts, the nonIrish Freedom Party, INP, will be out to have a go at the Gardai. So dont say you weren't warned.

Anyone going tomorrow that thinks there won't be trouble is either lying or, very very stupid - so there will be plenty of both.

Tacitus Kilgore

The Punter wrote: »

The government won't listen to me if sit on Boards.

And yes, end the lockdown. Give people their lives back. And their livelihoods and their mental health. Let them see their families again.

We know that's not workable though, have you got anything other than a few buzzwords?

The Nal

The Punter wrote: »

The government won't listen to me if sit on Boards.

They won't listen to you tomorrow either. Unless you're a virologist or an expert in viral pandemics maybe. And then there are channels of communication open to you.

Are you either of those things?

Do you have anything to contribute?

The Punter wrote: »

And yes, end the lockdown. Give people their lives back. And their livelihoods and their mental health. Let them see their families again.

Yeah thought so. Im pissed off with it all too but that can't happen yet unfortunately.

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Yes, but what's that got to do with this?
.

Oh I'm sorry. I thought you thought that the protest against lockdown restrictions in IRELAND was stupid and invalid because they didn't have a clear workable proposal.

I asked you if you had similar feelings about the protest today about a woman killed by a policeman in ENGLAND was stupid and invalid because they didn't have a clear and workable proposal.

I can see how you got confused

jam_mac_jam

Hopefully it goes peacefully tomorrow. Would be better for their cause.

I don't think anyone should be protesting at the moment. That's for them to decide.

The Punter

The Punter wrote: »

So in conclusion:

Protesting about black people in America and women in England, totally fine.

Protesting for Irish people in Ireland: 'NOOOOOOO!!!! Guards do something!! I'M SCARED OF THE FASCISTS!!!! HELP ME!!!

The guards are racist though aren't they?

TomTomTim

The Nal wrote: »

You have your voice here now.

Whats your solution to all this?

Just "end the lockdown" is it?

The exact same logic can be applied to all the supposedly righteous protests.

Allinall

The Punter wrote: »

The government won't listen to me if sit on Boards.

And yes, end the lockdown. Give people their lives back. And their livelihoods and their mental health. Let them see their families again.

They won't listen to you if you break restrictions and head into town shouting

WHAT DO WE WANT? WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

All you'll get is a sore throat, and possibly Covid.