Man kills 8 in multi-venue attack

James Brown

BloodBath wrote: »

Just sick of the constant TDS BS on this forum. You have very short memories if you think this is a new phenomena inspired by Trump. Just the usual point scoring.

Let's see what Biden and the Dems do about gun control or mental health. I'd guess at absolutely nothing as usual.

I don't blame Trump and I don't think it started with Trump.
Trump is an opportunist using the already weak minded and hateful to drum up support.

You are now trying to make an argument about Biden and the Dems? Talk about BS.

BloodBath

I'm not trying to make any argument. I don't support either side. Sick of the nonsense talk in here like everyone is a hardcore Democrat or Republican. We can't vote for these parties and have no allegiance to them. All of it is so far off topic unless we find out this killer was a big Trump supporter.

Sand

James Brown wrote: »

Agreed. That's why it should be pointed out.
You saw criticism of how different killings are viewed as an attack on whites.

No, I saw the criticism of how different killings are viewed as delusional. Because it is delusional - entirely at odds with reality.

Defending white people isn't needed if we are all viewed and treated equally.

Yeah, but its clear they aren't, so it is.

Tell me how

BloodBath wrote: »

Yes yes we know all this. It's been talked about 1000 times already.

I was hoping Biden would win the election so people would talk about Trump less and the issues more but that's not happening it seems.

This thread has nothing to do with Trump so why the F are the majority of your posts about him. You're obsessed.

The majority of my posts aren't about him but I'm sure as hell going to refer to the rhetoric he has come out with and the possible influence it has had and continues to have. Just last week he again went out of his way to refer to China when begging for attention on Covid.

The cop who spoke at the news conference relating to this case and the arrest of the suspect spoke in a very conciliatory tone about him saying that he just had had a bad day and then did this. That same cop apparently had posted on Twitter in a mocking tone about the origins of the virus and how Trump referred to it. Maybe all of this is irrelevant, maybe the guy was purely motivated by his own previous engagements with this locations but given the climate we are in, and the actions of Trump in creating that climate, he's going to be discussed.

James Brown

BloodBath wrote: »

I'm not trying to make any argument. I don't support either side. Sick of the nonsense talk in here like everyone is a hardcore Democrat or Republican. We can't vote for these parties and have no allegiance to them. All of it is so far off topic unless we find out this killer was a big Trump supporter.

Agreed. Just commenting on the vast difference in this thread to how it would be if it was a Muslim or other.

If he was a different colour people would be tripping over themselves to find out his religion. Religion hasn't even be raised.
There'd be folk looking to see was he an immigrant. Not a peep in that regard.
Worth noting.

James Brown

Sand wrote: »

No, I saw the criticism of how different killings are viewed as delusional. Because it is delusional - entirely at odds with reality.



Yeah, but its clear they aren't, so it is.

Yet you claim bias against whites. You seem to be saying there's no bias, but there is if you're white?

Tell me how

James Brown wrote: »

Agreed. Just commenting on the vast difference in this thread to how it would be if it was a Muslim or other.

The post count would be 5 - 10 times greater at this point if a Muslim had killed 8 people 2 days ago.

terryduff12

wes wrote: »

So the guy attacks 3 different locations and only kills Asian people.......... and apparently there is no racial motivation.......

The cops must take everyone for fools it seems.

It always amazes me the totally different reaction to far right terror attack committed by a white man. The fact they took him in alive also shows that the cops in the US are perfectly able to not kill a suspect when they are white somehow.

You should look into the story he didn't only kill just Asian people


https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-spa-shootings-what-we-know/index.html


In case you miss it, Of those who died, six were Asian and two were White, Cherokee County sheriff's officials said in a joint news conference with Atlanta police on Wednesday.

Sand

James Brown wrote: »

Yet you claim bias against whites. You seem to be saying there's no bias, but there is if you're white?

The purpose of the thread was to pretend crimes where white people are the perpetrators are downplayed and hidden, as if they had some institutional power. That is delusional. White people are regularly demonized by the media, often on the basis of hoaxes. They have no institutional power.

Tell me how wrote: »

The post count would be 5 - 10 times greater at this point if a Muslim had killed 8 people 2 days ago.

Well, no one denies what this guy did was awful. So there is less to discuss.

James Brown

Sand wrote: »

The purpose of the thread was to pretend crimes where white people are the perpetrators are downplayed and hidden, as if they had some institutional power. That is delusional. White people are regularly demonized by the media, often on the basis of hoaxes. They have no institutional power.



Well, no one denies what this guy did was awful. So there is less to discuss.

I find this comment delusional in the extreme.

People cause problems. We just perceive and discuss what they do based on what group they belong to. The message seems to be that whites are lone wolves who've had a bad day. Everyone else is proof their entire demographic is trouble.

Baloney. Can you cite anyone at any time condoning or excusing any mass killing? Observation stands and is borne out by your responses IMO.

No discussion on his religion, immigration etc. etc.

Sand

James Brown wrote: »

I find this comment delusional in the extreme.

What institutional power do you think white people have in the US? Genuinely curious.

People cause problems. We just perceive and discuss what they do based on what group they belong to. The message seems to be that whites are lone wolves who've had a bad day. Everyone else is proof their entire demographic is trouble.

That is simply untrue. Negative actions by white individuals are always imposed upon the entire white group/culture by media and power. Look at the Karen meme. One woman has a minor altercation in a park. All white women are then attacked.

Whereas we're consistently informed by media and politicians that its wrong and evil to ever draw conclusions about a non-white group.

Sand

Sand wrote: »

What institutional power do you think white people have in the US? Genuinely curious.



That is simply untrue. Negative actions by white individuals are always imposed upon the entire white group/culture by media and power. Look at the Karen meme. One woman has a minor altercation in a park. All white women are then attacked.

Whereas we're consistently informed by media and politicians that its wrong and evil to ever draw conclusions about a non-white group.

The same people who pontificate about "racist tropes and stereotypes" then go on to explain "white privilege" and don't see any irony whatsoever.

I heard anecdotally about a mixed race boy of primary school age in the US being asked by his teacher to talk about his white privilege in front of the class. I swear there is some very bad stuff being taught in schools and colleges there these days. They used to be the best in the world at the elite level of education. However I feel like as a country the US is eating its way through the lead it has over the rest of the world. It's like an elephant with a flesh eating disease. Sure, it will still be a formidable giant for a few more years, but standards are slipping over there. There is a gradual erosion of standards in all areas of life, from the media to the education and entertainment industries. Not to mention politics.

Dyr

James Brown wrote: »

Reads to me like you've a victim complex on behalf of whites, specifically right wing whites.

Might want to learn to read so, or lay off the assumptions for a while.

Ash.J.Williams

These threads are gas . A scrote carried out this shooting, just like every other shooting, a scrote.

dontmindme

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

These threads are gas . A scrote carried out this shooting, just like every other shooting, a scrote.

People wonder what the motive might have been. It doesn't appear to have been robbery.


EDIT: Just saw a news report there where the perpetrator claims it was not a racial attack (not sure how this conclusion was drawn seeing as his victims are of mixed races) but that the perpetrator is a sex addict and that he was 'removing the sources of temptation'. What was peculiar was that the report then goes on a racial narrative interviewing some Asian women and highlighting the increase in attacks on Asians? This attack had nothing to do with the race of the victims...I'm confused.

Rjd2

Tell me how wrote: »

The majority of my posts aren't about him but I'm sure as hell going to refer to the rhetoric he has come out with and the possible influence it has had and continues to have. Just last week he again went out of his way to refer to China when begging for attention on Covid.

The cop who spoke at the news conference relating to this case and the arrest of the suspect spoke in a very conciliatory tone about him saying that he just had had a bad day and then did this. That same cop apparently had posted on Twitter in a mocking tone about the origins of the virus and how Trump referred to it. Maybe all of this is irrelevant, maybe the guy was purely motivated by his own previous engagements with this locations but given the climate we are in, and the actions of Trump in creating that climate, he's going to be discussed.

To be fair you are slightly wrong with the cop.

He wasn't making excuses for him just trying to summarise how the murderer explained why he committed these acts.

Aaron Rupar edited the clip very sneakily assuming that so many viewing would not bother check the full video and 10 million views later ,,seems like a good call from him.

His personal posting is a bit bleak and plenty to be wary from that POV without Rupar needing to mislead for rage retweets.

gertyserty

He was a sex addict
And did not like the temptations

gertyserty

gertyserty wrote: »

And did not like the temptations

Not a fan of Motown? That's arguably a bigger crime than the shooting itself.

zom

Tell me how wrote: »

Another breaking story about something that thankfully didn't develop in to an active situation.
https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1372329237705846784

Just be careful what you read people. You may get into trouble visiting politically incorrect websites like usatoday:

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