Plagued by scam calls *DON'T POST PHONE NUMBERS*

Dante

Apparently the National Crime Agency are about to lock me up for fraud according to the robot that calls me almost every day.

JohnMcm1

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

Apparently the National Crime Agency are about to lock me up for fraud according to the robot that calls me almost every day.

+353 22 number??

Dante

Nah, it is a 0044.

JohnMcm1

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

Nah, it is a 0044.

I got about 6 calls from a +353 22 number today that has to be within Ireland doesn't it?

Caranica

JohnMcm1 wrote: »

I got about 6 calls from a +353 22 number today that has to be within Ireland doesn't it?

Spoofing a Mallow, Co.Cork number

Darc19

PetitPois89 wrote: »

I thought you could get charged for answering them?

No. You can't get charged for answering.

The scam for some numbers is that they ring you and cut it off. Then the natural response for some people is to call the number back.

That's when it will cost you

Darc19

PetitPois89 wrote: »

She had gotten my number from Revolut, so that explains it somewhat.

Incorrect statement.
She "claims" to have got the number from revolut.

Considering its a SCAM call, why would you believe her claim that the number came from revolut?


I get emails saying my banking 365 is compromised. Maybe they got my email from bank if Ireland? - I've never had a bank of Ireland account.


It's called phishing. 1m+ revolut accounts are in Ireland, so good chance someone that they call has a revolut account and suddenly they think the call is genuine.

That's how these scams work

Saudades

The Department of Social Protection has issued a warning about scam phone calls from people claiming to be department officials.

The department said that the call displays a range of numbers, including its own helpline number, which is 1890 800 024.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0411/1209088-scam-phone-calls-warning/

JohnMcm1

Saudades wrote: »

The Department of Social Protection has issued a warning about scam phone calls from people claiming to be department officials.

The department said that the call displays a range of numbers, including its own helpline number, which is 1890 800 024.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0411/1209088-scam-phone-calls-warning/

I got a call from "the department of social protection" informing me im wanted by the gardai for discrepancies or something like that about 6 times yesterday from 3 different +353 22.. numbers. No idea where they would have gotten my number.

Johnthemanager

PetitPois89 wrote: »

Yes they had my name. Calls have reduced a lot in the past fortnight. I still get one call every other day and block the number each time

I got one from Tunisia this morning. It didn't ring, just showed up as a missed call.

Buddy Bubs

I never answer my mobile anyway unless I'm expecting a call and know what it's about, even if caller ID kicks in and I know who it's from.

Voice-mail kicks in very quickly hoping people leave voice-mail instead of ringing me again.
No voice-mail, no call back.
Doing it for years, wrecks peoples heads but that's the way it is. I'm not subscribing to the whole contactable 24/7 culture. Girlfriend, work colleagues and some close friends know not to call me. Send me a whatsapp or leave ne voice-mail with idea of what it's about and I'll make my own mind up

IJS84

Since Friday Im getting calls from the 353 22 numbers. I picked one up, and 1 call only and then rest kept coming, and it was a recording saying my ppsn was involved in a fraud and a warrant is out for my arrest and press 1 to speak to the officer and then it ends.

each time I block the number I get a call from another 353 22 number (Mallow, Co. Cork area code)

The Numbers Ive been called on

35322 641991 (this started on Friday)
35322 626779 (this is the one I answered yesterday about 9.30am)
35322 637720
35322 429116
35322 468454

Darc19

IJS84 wrote: »

I picked one up, and 1 call only and then rest kept coming, and it was a recording saying my ppsn was involved in a fraud and a warrant is out for my arrest and press 1 to speak to the officer and then it ends.

This is how they separate those who would never fall for the scam with those who potentially would fall for it.

They make a wildly outrageous statement which most people would just laugh at.

The infamous Nigerian Prince emails were similar. They would have poor grammar and spelling errors which weeded out people who would never be taken in by the scam leaving a more "targeted" audience.

Quite clever.

corks finest

IJS84 wrote: »

Since Friday Im getting calls from the 353 22 numbers. I picked one up, and 1 call only and then rest kept coming, and it was a recording saying my ppsn was involved in a fraud and a warrant is out for my arrest and press 1 to speak to the officer and then it ends.

each time I block the number I get a call from another 353 22 number (Mallow, Co. Cork area code)

The Numbers Ive been called on

35322 641991 (this started on Friday)
35322 626779 (this is the one I answered yesterday about 9.30am)
35322 637720
35322 429116
35322 468454

That would drive me bonkers

corks finest

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

I never answer my mobile anyway unless I'm expecting a call and know what it's about, even if caller ID kicks in and I know who it's from.

Voice-mail kicks in very quickly hoping people leave voice-mail instead of ringing me again.
No voice-mail, no call back.
Doing it for years, wrecks peoples heads but that's the way it is. I'm not subscribing to the whole contactable 24/7 culture. Girlfriend, work colleagues and some close friends know not to call me. Send me a whatsapp or leave ne voice-mail with idea of what it's about and I'll make my own mind up

I have to answer all but private numbers as it could be work, can't for the life of me understand why ppl don't show their number,I never even answer a private call

corks finest

IJS84 wrote: »

Since Friday Im getting calls from the 353 22 numbers. I picked one up, and 1 call only and then rest kept coming, and it was a recording saying my ppsn was involved in a fraud and a warrant is out for my arrest and press 1 to speak to the officer and then it ends.

each time I block the number I get a call from another 353 22 number (Mallow, Co. Cork area code)

The Numbers Ive been called on

35322 641991 (this started on Friday)
35322 626779 (this is the one I answered yesterday about 9.30am)
35322 637720
35322 429116
35322 468454

Is this vis mobile or landline? Mist pol I know who get nuisance calls are normally elderly and nearly always via landline

PetitPois89

Darc19 wrote: »

Incorrect statement.
She "claims" to have got the number from revolut.

Considering its a SCAM call, why would you believe her claim that the number came from revolut?


I get emails saying my banking 365 is compromised. Maybe they got my email from bank if Ireland? - I've never had a bank of Ireland account.


It's called phishing. 1m+ revolut accounts are in Ireland, so good chance someone that they call has a revolut account and suddenly they think the call is genuine.

That's how these scams work

By coincidence a month before I started getting these phone calls I signed up for a trading account with Revolut to buy shares. She had this info specifically as well as my full name which lead my to believe my data came from Revolut or one of their partnering companies

okidoki987

One of my family got a call from 022 541932 on Friday.
"Your PPSN number"....and so on.
Kept ringing until it was blocked and then another call from another 022 number, blocked again.
10 minutes after last call, another 022 number rings another family member.
Could have been lucky but not sure how they got same family with 2 different numbers that close to each other?
Looks like any number nowadays can be easily cloned so 022 might not be calling from Mallow, Cork, just made to look like it is.

corkie

Who called you from 017061100 ?

https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/353017061200


Anyone else on 'Three' getting a call from this number tonight.

Plenty of old posts about that number on the closed forum.


Unknown Dublin number to me so left it ring out.


Edit: - https://www.facebook.com/IpsosMRBI/

"Our in house call centre calls from 01 7061200 and 01 7061100 9am-9pm weekdays. 10am-6pm Saturday and 11am-7pm Sunday.
Established in 1962, Ipsos MRBI is the most experienced full service research company in Ireland."

And last post there was 11 march looking for staff.

L1011

That, if not being faked, is IPSOS the market research company.

Sheep Shagger

corkie wrote: »

Who called you from 017061100 ?

https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/353017061200


Anyone else on 'Three' getting a call from this number tonight.

Plenty of old posts about that number on the closed forum.


Unknown Dublin number to me so left it ring out.

I just rang it....is a market research company.

When I get these calls I just block them on my handset - does the job.

NSAman

I know it is probably racist but since I started answering the unknown phone numbers in an indian accent,,, they seemed to have dwindled dramatically.

Every day was 10 or 20 (US Based) and now barely one a week..;)

ShaShaBear

Got the 022 Mallow call on Monday, and answered it to get the "you're in big trouble" robot. Hung up immediately and ever since, I have been absolutely PLAGUED with missed calls that don't actually ring from what looks like Irish mobile numbers. No voicemails left or anything like that, and the call doesn't last long enough to even provoke a sound out of my phone. About 5 different 083, 085 and 087 numbers :rolleyes:

u2me

More scam caller numbers to add to the list - all to landline - 0032519731771, 0070108880197, 0013846406945 - saw a product called TrueCall blocker for a landline - anyone tried it?

NSAman

Not sure if there is an Irish version of this, or this version works in Ireland but it has also been a god send..

https://www.robokiller.com/

Glaceon

I wouldn't be surprised if the Facebook data leak is facilitating some of these scams.

L1011

Glaceon wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if the Facebook data leak is facilitating some of these scams.

Plus the Fastway one - names and numbers in both.

u2me

Seems to be a few for mobiles but limited landline ones available.

Pandiculation

I installed Hiya and it seems to screen most of them.

Kerry25x

2 missed calls and voicemails from two different 083 numbers.

Voicemails are quite official sounding claiming to be from Revenue saying that there's me fraudulent activity associated with my PPS number and there's a warrant out for my arrest due to suspicion of money laundering, it then asked me to press 1 for further information.

Quick Google shows that its a scam going around at the moment and if you press 1 you can be charged rediculous amounts for the call.

Pandiculation

You can’t be charged on inbound calls.

The pressing 1 is likely to detect if you’re a human and add you to a database as a real person.

If you interact either these calls you’ll be plagued.

The main thing to do is just instantly hang up or, if you’re sure it’s a spam call, don’t answer at all. That way you’ll be seen as a waste of effort to call.

ShaShaBear

Pandiculation wrote: »

You can’t be charged on inbound calls.

The pressing 1 is likely to detect if you’re a human and add you to a database as a real person.

If you interact either these calls you’ll be plagued.

The main thing to do is just instantly hang up or, if you’re sure it’s a spam call, don’t answer at all. That way you’ll be seen as a waste of effort to call.

I answered this one and hung up straight away and I was absolutely PLAGUED afterwards.

Subsequently, my husband is the target this week. About 10 missed calls a day from Limerick and 085 numbers as well as scam texts claiming to be from AIB and PPP

Pandiculation

If you can record the “special information tone” into your voicemail it actually seems to trick some autodialler software into thinking the number is invalid.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RO%27_SIT.ogg

Kerry25x

ShaShaBear wrote: »

I answered this one and hung up straight away and I was absolutely PLAGUED afterwards.

I haven't answered any of them other than to listen to the voicemails (haven't pressed 1) but I've had 6 missed calls from them since yesterday afternoon, always a different 083 number.

yrreg0850

Pandiculation wrote: »

If you can record the “special information tone” into your voicemail it actually seems to trick some autodialler software into thinking the number is invalid.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RO%27_SIT.ogg

Will this not affect genuine callers who wish to leave a message.

Mcelroa3

Hi all,

I got a call from +353 83 3665098 earlier. It was an automated voice saying it was the dept of social protection and they had found suspicious activity on my pps number and they are taking me to court for drug smuggling or some other nonsense.

I know sometimes the phone number is cloned so it may not have actually come from the Irish mobile number but I was wondering if I can do anything seeing it came from an Irish mobile num starting with 083?

Ger Roe

Mcelroa3 wrote: »

Hi all,

I got a call from +353 83 3665098 earlier. It was an automated voice saying it was the dept of social protection and they had found suspicious activity on my pps number and they are taking me to court for drug smuggling or some other nonsense.

I know sometimes the phone number is cloned so it may not have actually come from the Irish mobile number but I was wondering if I can do anything seeing it came from an Irish mobile num starting with 083?

It may not be an Irish number. You can report to ComReg, but in my previous experience, if it is a call that originated from outside the country, they can not investigate it.

When I received that advice, I asked if they had any plans to address this international criminal aspect at any of the international conferences they might be involved in - no response received.

whiterebel

3 threads under yours: Scam calls

I answered one of them, pressed 1 when prompted, then got put through to a guy with a foreign accent. I watch scambaiting videos all the time so I am already very familiar with his script. I told him my name was Mary Doil, I spelled Doil for him just that way, I told him I didn't know my Eircode but I live in Farmtown, Co. Cavan. He accepted all this information as genuine, then proceeded to tell me that my social security number was bring used in Dublin for bad things. I asked "What bad things?" He replied money laundering and drug trafficking. I said I know that, that was me. I did that. He went quiet for a moment then back to the script, telling me they would need to cancel my social security number. I said OK. Go ahead. He hung up.

And I haven't had a call since. A nice four minutes of my time, and theirs.

Jim_Hodge

Deleted User wrote: »

I answered one of them, pressed 1 when prompted, then got put through to a guy with a foreign accent. I watch scambaiting videos all the time so I am already very familiar with his script. I told him my name was Mary Doil, I spelled Doil for him just that way, I told him I didn't know my Eircode but I live in Farmtown, Co. Cavan. He accepted all this information as genuine, then proceeded to tell me that my social security number was bring used in Dublin for bad things. I asked "What bad things?" He replied money laundering and drug trafficking. I said I know that, that was me. I did that. He went quiet for a moment then back to the script, telling me they would need to cancel my social security number. I said OK. Go ahead. He hung up.

And I haven't had a call since. A nice four minutes of my time, and theirs.

I've strung a few of them along through the years and wasted their time. I never get any calls now,

Pandiculation

yrreg0850 wrote: »

Will this not affect genuine callers who wish to leave a message.

Just record it in with your message. Doesn’t have to be at the start.

Humans can understand language, the autodialler software just listens for specific audio signals like that tone is 3 very specific frequencies that are interpreted by those devices, but also things like modems / faxes etc as a connection failure.

Mcelroa3

Mcelroa3 wrote: »

Hi all,

I got a call from +353 83 3665098 earlier. It was an automated voice saying it was the dept of social protection and they had found suspicious activity on my pps number and they are taking me to court for drug smuggling or some other nonsense.

I got that aswell, from two different 083 numbers, over two different days. Robotic voice telling me Social Welfare are doing me for fraud and the Gardai are doing me for drug trafficking, and I can 'press 1 to speak to the investigating officer'.


I do admire their optimism, that the Gardai and Welfare could cross-communicate and work so effectively together. :P


I also do laugh at the idea of the Gardai and Welfare inspectors huddled around a white board with all my details, info and movements, studying it for hours and EUREKA! We've got KKV for the money laundering and drug trafficking... better give him a phone call and let him know.

Also, got not 1, not 2, but 3 DHL text messages (SMS) to my phone.

"Payment of import duty/tax & advance fee is required for DHL Express [tracking number] from GREEN AND BROWN LTD. Pay securely: [link to pay]"


Needless to say I rolled my eyes and ignored it. Turns out it's actually genuine :rolleyes: I ordered blinds off BlindsDirect.ie. Turns out they operate under the name green and brown (which I only found out by googling it). You'd think DHL's text would have at least started with my full name, seen as they have it. The minute a text starts with the word "payment" I roll my eyes and mutter 'scam'.

It would help if legitimate services at least made an effort to standardise their services or at least seem more genuine by including more details. (although maybe if I'd known that green and brown was the name of the company i ordered from, it would have helped!)

Optimalprimerib

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I answered one of them, pressed 1 when prompted, then got put through to a guy with a foreign accent. I watch scambaiting videos all the time so I am already very familiar with his script. I told him my name was Mary Doil, I spelled Doil for him just that way, I told him I didn't know my Eircode but I live in Farmtown, Co. Cavan. He accepted all this information as genuine, then proceeded to tell me that my social security number was bring used in Dublin for bad things. I asked "What bad things?" He replied money laundering and drug trafficking. I said I know that, that was me. I did that. He went quiet for a moment then back to the script, telling me they would need to cancel my social security number. I said OK. Go ahead. He hung up.

And I haven't had a call since. A nice four minutes of my time, and theirs.

I would be worried about being charged for accepting the call. I would check your bill if I was you. I was called by them today but hung up straight away.

fritzelly

Could easily block all these numbers if any telco in the country (or anywhere really, its not just Ireland) could be bothered to implement it into their systems

Tho I do love keeping the Indian scammers on the line for as long as I can

Iderown

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I've strung a few of them along through the years and wasted their time. I never get any calls now,

Used to love wasting these guys' time. One of the best things that I did with them was to convince them that my name is XXXXX YYYYY. They used to know my real name. So, now when they ring, I know immediately that it is scammer.
Things have changed now somewhat with those calls. Get the automated "headline" message first. I have never gone as far as to press the "1" to continue.

We are retired. We disconnect the line until maybe 09:30. That seems to have decreased the number of calls later in the day.

Optimalprimerib

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

I would be worried about being charged for accepting the call. I would check your bill if I was you. I was called by them today but hung up straight away.

I wasn't charged.

Pandiculation

fritzelly wrote: »

Could easily block all these numbers if any telco in the country (or anywhere really, its not just Ireland) could be bothered to implement it into their systems

Tho I do love keeping the Indian scammers on the line for as long as I can

It may eventually happen, but voice telephone services run on fairly primitive computer technology - or at least rely on some very obsolete signalling protocols that have very limited ability to filter or verify anything.

There are huge issues trying to add security old systems and protocols that are used that were developed in an era when they just trusted the information that was sent because it was coming from some trustworthy telecommunication company. Nowadays with VoIP anyone can send calls into gateways with basically any caller ID information and the exchanges have no ability to analyse or filter that really at all.

Smartphones can do it using apps on board, but as yet the networks haven’t really bothered to implement spam filters.

There’s also a ton of regulatory issues as you’ll get complaints to the ITU etc say eir or Vodafone started applying filters to inbound traffic from certain countries.

The landline networks in particular, until they transition to VoIP, are largely still running on legacy digital technology from the 80s and 90s that has little or no intelligence beyond basic call routing.

What they should do is have verified Caller ID. That’s becoming possible and has begun to be (slowly) implemented in the US. It’s something the European regulators will need to look at. However, it seems spam calls tend to target English speaking and major language speaking countries e.g. french. You get relatively far fewer on the continent.

In the US the volume of scam and telemarketing calls has driven phone answering down, which is why the telcos finally reacted. It was making voice telephony as useful as spammy email.

It’s got to the stage over there you absolutely need a spam filter on your mobile and many people are just seeing landlines as a source of endless spam and having them taken out.

Alibear57

whiterebel wrote: »

....Mine is my business number, so its not as if I can'y answer it.

You are right to get annoyed with these twits. Many people on this forum have private home numbers and, whilst getting these calls when relaxing at home is bad enough, getting them when you are trying to make a living is criminal. Many a time I have, prematurely, and hastily said "goodbye" to an important customer, because they heard my phone ringing and acknowledged that it might be an important business call, so graciously left my shop to allow me to answer it. You can probably imagine my sheer anger when I hear some foreign idiot telling me about the accident I had last year (utter lies), or that my internet will be disconnected because of irregular activity (yeah, YOU CALLING ME, that's what I call IRREGULAR ACTIVITY).

Something NEEDS to be done by the telecom companies who KNOW this is going on and DO have the power to stop it, they monitor and record every call and know where they are coming from.

corkie

083 scam: Gardai share list of bogus numbers after major increase in scam calls

""Some of the numbers involved begin with the following digits.

+353 8336
080066
353 01 888
1(647)375

"Gardaí wish to warn members of the public not to engage or share personal information. The Department of Social Welfare will never call you to ask you for your PPS number or bank details."