Cow holding cleaning

bosallagh88

Have a cow holding cleaning for two days I give her alflamox today ( they were getting dry cow mineral licks) is it difficult to remove without tearing are you better to leave 10 days before removing?

whelan2

If she's not sick leave her alone

893bet

Out of interest how do you know she is holding?

We have cows that regularly eat it with no trace. Watching for illness is the only way then.

bosallagh88

893bet wrote: »

Out of interest how do you know she is holding?

We have cows that regularly eat it with no trace. Watching for illness is the only way then.

There’s a fair bit hanging from her when do most people remove ? Never had much bother with it before

Castlekeeper

bosallagh88 wrote: »

There’s a fair bit hanging from her when do most people remove ? Never had much bother with it before

Very appropriate handle!

4 ish days, after that you won't be able to get your hand in, wash out 10 days after.

Mooooo

Wouldn't go physically removing it. Cut what is hanging just to keep it away from the udder to keep the teats clean but if it's still there after three days a course of antibiotics is prob required. She would be one to note for a washout in a months time as well

bosallagh88

Mooooo wrote: »

Wouldn't go physically removing it. Cut what is hanging just to keep it away from the udder to keep the teats clean but if it's still there after three days a course of antibiotics is prob required. She would be one to note for a washout in a months time as well

Would you just leave it even if she takes a week or two to clean ?

tanko

If it's still there after a week i'd get a vet to check her out.

Injuryprone

My vet has a general rule of leaving them a week before taking the clearing. I always get him to do it and he gives a wash out after removing the clearing. They can sometimes be tough enough removed and I'm happier leaving him do the job. Here anyway, about half of cows with twins won't clear, also ones with a difficult calving can be vulnerable

kollegeknight

Injuryprone wrote: »

My vet has a general rule of leaving them a week before taking the clearing. I always get him to do it and he gives a wash out after removing the clearing. They can sometimes be tough enough removed and I'm happier leaving him do the job. Here anyway, about half of cows with twins won't clear, also ones with a difficult calving can be vulnerable

The very odd time it happens here, after about 7-10 days removes it. Some smell when it comes out.

JeffKenna

Mooooo wrote: »

Wouldn't go physically removing it. Cut what is hanging just to keep it away from the udder to keep the teats clean but if it's still there after three days a course of antibiotics is prob required. She would be one to note for a washout in a months time as well

I wouldn't be cutting that much off. Vet said the weight of what's hanging will help what's inside come out.

whelan2

JeffKenna wrote: »

I wouldn't be cutting that much off. Vet said the weight of what's hanging will help what's inside come out.

Yes and to never tie a weight onto it or try and pull them out

Mooooo

JeffKenna wrote: »

I wouldn't be cutting that much off. Vet said the weight of what's hanging will help what's inside come out.

Yeah that's why I said enough to keep the teats clean. Don't want her to get mastitis either when the immune system could be weaker

hopeso

Has anyone ever heard that feeding ivy to a cow that hasn't cleaned helps? I've heard it from several older generation farmers around here, but never tried it....

148multi

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Have a cow holding cleaning for two days I give her alflamox today ( they were getting dry cow mineral licks) is it difficult to remove without tearing are you better to leave 10 days before removing?

The old treatment was half a dozen eggs a day, the idea is to steam up the cow.

greysides

hopeso wrote: »

Has anyone ever heard that feeding ivy to a cow that hasn't cleaned helps? I've heard it from several older generation farmers around here, but never tried it....

The ivy is meant to contain substances similar to oxytocin, the natural uterus contracting hormone.
I think you need a lot of it, a bucket full. Ivy can be toxic, in theory at least.

The uterine oxytocin receptors are gone by about six hours post calving so I'm not sure how it should work but I'm told it can. Of course, the cleaning could be coming away naturally too.

Practice here is attempting removal at five days. If it won't come easily the cow is washed out (injectible antibiotics if needed) and left for two more days. Often its easier removed at 7-10 days when the vet isn't called earlier. That risks a sick cow but injectible antibiotics can control that.

The two approaches are remove manually at ~ 5 days or leave to rot out with antibiotics if needed.

Cows that calve prematurely or have twins might be better left to seven days before trying manual removal as I often have to go back to them.

bosallagh88

greysides wrote: »

The ivy is meant to contain substances similar to oxytocin, the natural uterus contracting hormone.
I think you need a lot of it, a bucket full. Ivy can be toxic, in theory at least.

The uterine oxytocin receptors are gone by about six hours post calving so I'm not sure how it should work but I'm told it can. Of course, the cleaning could be coming away naturally too.



Practice here is attempting removal at five days. If it won't come easily the cow is washed out (injectible antibiotics if needed) and left for two more days. Often its easier removed at 7-10 days when the vet isn't called earlier. That risks a sick cow but injectible antibiotics can control that.

The two approaches are remove manually at ~ 5 days or leave to rot out with antibiotics if needed.

Cows that calve prematurely or have twins might be better left to seven days before trying manual removal as I often have to go back to them.

Thanks greyside do you think would a bucketful of ivy cause the cow any problems?

50HX

Mooooo wrote: »

Yeah that's why I said enough to keep the teats clean. Don't want her to get mastitis either when the immune system could be weaker

Tie a knot on itself a few times, this will keep its natural weight and keep the teats clean

greysides

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Thanks greyside do you think would a bucketful of ivy cause the cow any problems?

Probably not. But I was trying to avoid saying that!

Dakota Dan

Give her a shot of oxytocin 5ml

bosallagh88

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Give her a shot of oxytocin 5ml

Does it still work a few days later?

greysides

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Does it still work a few days later?

No. Needs injection of oestrogen to bring back oxytocin receptors.... and that's not done.