Kia EV6

Busman Paddy Lasty

Had a few failed charges with CCS before. Had to hold the cable head into the car's socket to prevent it happening again.

Sometimes they need to be pressed in for a few seconds during some communication handshake. No problem since.

Mantis Toboggan

Seen one driving through Naas today looked beautiful.

Skippy along

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118130907#Comment_118130907

You’re gone viral mark https://www.facebook.com/groups/kiaev6/permalink/579113613360652/

MarkN

Not a member, can’t see.

just tried ESB 50kW, same story, nothing happens. Moved / held the connector every which way I could, no handshake. Just head shake !

Vico1612

Strange that the Ionity error in your video says car should be turned off .. maybe it's not detecting it's off. Curious to hear what Kia Ireland have to say and if you test another car.

80sDiesel

Cars are computers nowadays. Unplug 12v , wait a bit, and reconnect. Probably caching some setting.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118132483#Comment_118132483

OT, you can charge both CCS and CHAdeMO at eCars high power units....just feedback from comment you made on EV6 video

MarkN

handy to know, wasn’t sure.

Bandana boy

My dealer informed me today that the GT line will not be in till April and that Kia Ireland are not honouring the 500 euro Supervalu voucher for cars registered after Q1

Seems pretty poor showing when they are the delay into Q2 , but if they are over subscribed I guess they can do what they like

Stefs_42

Guys who were the lucky ones here test driven both ionic 5 and ev 6. What impresissions u got from both evs? What are pros and cons for both models?

MarkN

Both solid cars on the road and despite larger wheels, suspension setup suits our roads. No nasty thuds for the most part.

The models being brought to Ireland makes the Ioniq a more affordable car due to the entry level EV6 starting at 50k.

I think both cars are an unusual design so it's hard to say one is better looking than the other as people will have their own opinions. For me, I think I prefer the Kia.

DaveByDavid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118139381#Comment_118139381

Sometimes it feels like when you've watched one review you've watched them all, but I have to say I agree with a lot of the YouTube reviews.

The EV6 feels like it handles a little better down country roads, but not to the point where the Ioniq 5 can't be taken quick, but for such a big car I was impressed with the EV6 - coming from a mostly non-car enthusiast, but who does live near lots of country lanes and likes to take them quicker where possible and safe.

EV6 is a sleeker, sportier feel, and the Ioniq 5 feels more spacious and comfortable. The seats in the EV6 are comfortable enough and I'm sure they'd be fine for long journeys, but the Ioniq 5 feels like you're sat in your living room almost.

As a bigger guy I find getting into the EV6 a little uncomfortable/awkward, although when I'm in the seat it's absolutely fine, no issue at all.

In the Ioniq 5 it's much easier to get into, and visibility feels a bit better.

In terms of button placements and stuff like that there's not a huge amount of difference. I prefer the spinning dial for D/P/R in the EV6, rather than the stick on the Ioniq 5 but I'm sure it will just become muscle memory after a while.

The Ev6 has a button to switch between media and climate control so then you use a physical button to change temp but Ioniq 5 touch buttons are pretty good and there's shortcut buttons too.

Very little between them for me, one is sportier and maybe handles a little better, the other is more spacious and comfortable and a little easier to get into (although for most people they'll have no issues with either).

One thing with the Ioniq 5 is you can enter the car at a cheaper spec. EV6 starts from 50k, although if you're comparing like for like priced models again, not a huge amount of difference.

Bandana boy

I would pretty much agree 100% with Dave , I thought the Kia was a little more intuitive on the controls but you will get used to either very quickly

the Hyundai seems to have better availability than the Kia , expect a wait for both but Kia seems to be 2-3 months longer lead time.

eagerv

At the moment we have a VW with the selector on the wheel and a classic Ioniq with the central push button selector. I prefer the VW system, you never need to look or think when changing. Glad the new Ioniq 5 has positioned it at the wheel..

slave1

Head Ioniq

Heart EV6

Mantis Toboggan

Test driving this after lunch, I've never driven an EV before, any tips or what should I be looking out for?

ewj1978

rule one: your left leg doesn't move.. no clutch.

rule two: just relax and enjoy it.

Ryano87

I test drove a red earth yesterday evening. super impressed with drive and build quality.

I was about to pull the trigger on a demo BMW 330e but now I'm totally confused.

BMW demo only has 2 year warranty which is a serious drawback (I'd plan on keeping the car for 4 years)

The gravity blue is stunning in person I think.

IMG_20211108_161501.jpg

Really not sure what to go for now 😔

DaveByDavid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118140860#Comment_118140860

And don't panic about reaching for the gear stick if you're coming from manual, you'll soon forget about it :)

Manion

I've found all the electric cars to be surprising in terms of torque. This is especially surprising when reversing into a parking spot as you can accelerate quickly going backwards. They're similar but different to driving a normal automatic. I've found when driving automatics that I'm always anticipating the gear change but I found the EVs very relaxing to drive.

TitianGerm

https://youtu.be/3qO5U_ZWT2E

Battery Life saying he had issues fast charging as well.

Norwegian Nobby gets a mention.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118141577#Comment_118141577

EVs are not automatics, no gears to run through, just forward and reverse rotation

Mantis Toboggan

Test drove it earlier, nice looking car bigger than I expected. Felt the drive was ok maybe not as good as I expected although person before me had the seat jacked up high and I wasn't mad on that. Nice power which was the most impressive difference between my own motor. Having driven it I couldn't justify the money for it and probably stick with my own vehicle for a few more years.

Manion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118142497#Comment_118142497

Didn't say they where.

thelikelylad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118142014#Comment_118142014

Different issue but interesting - I don't think it's a deal breaker though.

Arrives at charger with 7% and cold battery (Strange alright that the battery is cold after 2 hours+ of driving at 130km/h)

I checked the live stream and from what I can see:

• 77kW at 7% (starts session)
• 118kW at 14% (+4.5 mins later, starts new session)
• 200kW at 26% (+6 mins later)
• 106kW at 80% (+17 mins later)
• 53kW at 90% (+6mins)

About 27-28mins for a 7-80% charge with a cold battery.

Manion

No indication of spec either on the video, maybe no heat pump? Officially it's a. Option.

ewj1978

First one in the flesh

Mantis Toboggan

Think Blue is the pick of them.

MarkN

The blue and the grey (boring I know) are the two best I think. Saw a line up of about 20 of them a couple of weeks ago.

Manion

The moonscape they where saying is a matt finish and need extra care, so we went with the blue. Looks well in that photo.

Vico1612

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118146573#Comment_118146573

Did you hear back from Kia about your charge issue ?

quenching

Can anyone tell me what colour is the no-cost option? All colour options on the Kia website are €650 on top of the €50k list price, so not really the list price. This seems to be the case with several Kia models, but not all, some have €0 options on colour. I’ve seen this with other brands too. Surely this is misleading if the advertised list price isn’t actually possible?

MarkN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118147643#Comment_118147643

Not yet, I will though in due course.

Bandana boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118148729#Comment_118148729

In the UK Red is standard at no extra cost , but they appear to have included a charge for red here .

darrenheaphy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118140860#Comment_118140860

Hehe, when I collect the Kia e-Niro, which I'd never physically seen nor driven, rule number one caught me off guard. I felt like a learner driver leaving the dealership, the sales man stood by slightly bewildered as I jerkedly (but delightedly) left the forecourt

fits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118152343#Comment_118152343

We’ve all been there 😀

DaveByDavid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118152768#Comment_118152768

First electric drive was Ioniq 5.

Dealer literally just handed the keys over and that was it. Not even a quick run down on where the buttons were.

Luckily I'd watched so many reviews j already knew.

Very jerky to start as worried car would get away from me, but now it's natural whenever i test drive.n

AMKC

Seem a lovely white one on the roads today. 212-OY- is all I got. Did not see its number. Hope to see it driving around again. I love the rear break lights on it and the rear indicators are in the rights spots too.

Mantis Toboggan

Are we likely to see an EV7 Optima equivalent?

ec_pc

Placed our order today for an EV6 earth with a Feb / March delivery as January allocations are all gone at this stage. Excellent trade in value of existing Kia partially due to used car price increases I suspect. Also huge variance in trade in values within the Kia network, really pays to shop around.

Essentially it's my wifes car which we tend to use the most anyway. Choose Gravity Blue. I was in 2 dealers today and it seems to be attracting a lot of tyre kickers, I wonder how many will translate to sales.

Off now to sort out a home charger - advice welcome!

Onlyzeone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118162497#Comment_118162497

From talking to people on here and my own research I've come to my own conclusion of what's best for me... hope it helps...

The only "free charger" at the moment seems to be from Energia. This charger is the EVBox Elvi. But the price for this deal is .2249c/kwhr. Whereas you can get. From a rival supplier - 16c/kwhr or less from bord gais for electricity price at the moment. So at average usage of the EV6 being put at 18kw/100km. 10,000km in a year with energia would cost €404, the same with Bord gais is €288.

But you also got to take into account the price hike for home use. My house currently uses 4400kw/year. At energia prices this would cost €989/year,with Bord gais it is €704/year. The difference between the two suppliers taking their cost/kw, car and home, into account is €401.

The rival charger in pricing against is the Zappi. This will cost me €685 to get installed after grant rebate. So what I want against what is free is €284.

€284 and better charger when I get solar is what I'm doing as the zappi has a "solar only" charger option.

Hope that helps, summarised it as much as I could... I think the math is right but...

slave1

You can add 10% to your charging cost due to losses during charging process

Snugbugrug28

Guys, for those of you who are buying these cars brand new do you mind if I ask how you're buying? E.g. PCP?

And also what percentage of annual income do you think is reasonable to spend on a new electric car?

DaveByDavid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118163483#Comment_118163483

Still undecided between PCP or 50% through bank loan.

I saw recently something saying 15% of take home should be max but not sure if that number was just pulled out of thin air 😀

Manion

I'm not a financial advisor, however I got PCP for my last car. It worked out OK for us but often people don't fully appreciate the the terms and conditions of PCP nor plan for the balloon payment. If your planning on keeping the car after the 3 years, the cost of credit will be higher than straight HP. You can test this out on Kiacredit.ie.

If you can get a bank load at the same interest rate I'd go with a bank due to the terms and conditions but I wouldn't pay more for it.

When we where on PCP we missed one repayment due to money not being in the right account and all that Ulster bank shite. Under the T and C if we missed two repayments in total at any time over the 3 years the car could be taken and we'd get nothing. It was quiet the shock and worry as sometimes things go wrong and money fails to clear an account on time. Most people just aren't aware of how must power it gives the lender.

The entire business model for PCP is to trap you buying a new car every 3 years.

Regarding income per year, that something you need to work out based on your own budget. Are you currently saving each month the cost of the repayments, if not what will you do to change that behaviour. You don't want to be scrambling to make the repayments. PCP has lower monthly repayments but you need to think about that massive final payment and how you will afford it.

Onlyzeone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149522#Comment_118149522

Hey Mark,

I like the new video.

A couple of things you said I was unsure of...

You said that the power tailgate, V2L andradar cruise control are only on the gt line... I'm 100% sure power tailgate and V2L and power tailgate are standard on earth, also pretty sure radar cruise control is as well. I would like to know if I am incorrect.

Your point that the car has to be plugged in to be able to preheat... that is annoying. I hope that is updatable

Also, you were trying to open the charge port by pressing at the top of the flap. There is a nubbin/rubber extrusion on the interior of the flap that corresponds to the close button you can see when the flap is open. By pressing on this point in the exterior of the flap(that corresponds to the nubbin), and it opens without an issue. Learnt this from messing with it myself.

Otherwise, I love the quality and pace of your videos, enjoy watching them.

ec_pc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118163050#Comment_118163050

Thanks for the detailed response. I am currently on a day / night tariff with Energia and I have solar and a solar battery. I know on my Energia tariff there is a limit on KWH per month on the night tariff (2000 iirc) but the night rate is 8.7 inc VAT taking into account the recent increases. I have to say I am not a fan of Energia, too much messing about and chasing them on the phone, I'll be moving in January to a new provider.

Making a few enquiries tomorrow regarding home charger, I don't think I will be going with Kia. Garage recommending Wallbox, but I must look into Zappi.

Onlyzeone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118166073#Comment_118166073

You have other factors to take into account then. At the price you are talking about, the free charger should be worth it as you have a fantastic night rate and you have solar already for daytime charging as well.

There is just no one fits all solution.

The myenergi zappi can communicate with your solar and only charge the car with the excess energy your solar is creating, if you want. Comes highly recommended as well

thelikelylad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118165765#Comment_118165765

You are correct, Earth includes V2L, Adaptive cruise and power tailgate.

Pre-heating can still be done remotely from the app when not plugged in which is the important thing IMO.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118166884#Comment_118166884

Sounds just like the E niro, regarding pre heating