Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

SortingYouOut

theballz wrote: »

Full on rave with about 200 teenagers in terenure, going on hours no Garda in sight

Local myself, where abouts it it?

normanoffside

coastwatch wrote: »

Heard an interview with a HSE spokesperson on rte drivetime earlier this week.
The walk-in test centres are being setup on a trial basis in areas of high incidence.
The idea is to make it as easy as possible to get tested, for people without any symptoms, and so prevent further spread.
Its following best practice in other countries.
I'm surprised at the positivity rates of around 1.5% so far reported.

The problem is that PCR tests catch past infections. I already know of at least 6 people who have had covid and test positive on PCR up to 3 months after they have recovered. That's also why people are now considered negative automatically after 10 days (Previously they were continually tested until negative or 'recovered').

That's why The HSPC denotify any 'case' where they were already positive in the previous 6 months.

These test centres are in many case catching people who had covid weeks or months ago.

Qrt

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

As of today we still have 100% of restrictions

I think we can all cope a bit longer, I can't wait to stumble out of the pub again but I'll hold out a bit longer if it means not having to deal with Level 5 after May.

normanoffside

GooglePlus wrote: »

Well it did come from a page called "concerned citizen" that has a skull and bones flag beside the name.

So that's not Fauci saying those words?

Wolf359f

normanoffside wrote: »

He was speaking in relation to covid.
These asymptomatic test centres are like speed traps on the N11. Shooting fish in a barrel.

He prefaces his entire statement with 'historically', I'd also be curious when he made that statement.

copeyhagen

PTH2009 wrote: »

Very good news but sadly the media will portray it a different way and try spin it instil fear so we won't slip up for the easter holidays

terrible way of living atm

they were "worried" and it was worrying on the news earleir alright, they said 10 people had been admitted in last 24 hours

FintanMcluskey

Qrt wrote: »

I think we can all cope a bit longer, I can't wait to stumble out of the pub again but I'll hold out a bit longer if it means not having to deal with Level 5 after May.

Pubs opening is a long long time off, that’s a minor issue in the grand scheme of things

Ha Long Bay

normanoffside wrote: »

The problem is that PCR tests catch past infections. I already know of at least 6 people who have had covid and test positive on PCR up to 3 months after they have recovered. That's also why people are now considered negative automatically after 10 days (Previously they were continually tested until negative or 'recovered').

That's why The HSPC denotify any 'case' where they were already positive in the previous 6 months.

These test centres are in many case catching people who had covid weeks or months ago.

This is just not true. The conspiracy around these popup test centers are getting tiresome.






https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/symptom-free-walk-in-covid19-testing.html

TheDoctor

copeyhagen wrote: »

they were "worried" and it was worrying on the news earleir alright, they said 10 people had been admitted in last 24 hours

Did they comment that 30 people were discharged?

Wolf359f

normanoffside wrote: »

The problem is that PCR tests catch past infections. I already know of at least 6 people who have had covid and test positive on PCR up to 3 months after they have recovered. That's also why people are now considered negative automatically after 10 days (Previously they were continually tested until negative or 'recovered').

That's why The HSPC denotify any 'case' where they were already positive in the previous 6 months.

These test centres are in many case catching people who had covid weeks or months ago.

That's not true at all. I could be pre-symptomatic and test positive and still have symptoms 10 days after that. I've never heard this new policy where people are assumed negative after 10 days.

HPSC will not consider a second positive as a new case, simply because it's not a new case, it's an existing case. It's the same policy from day 1. Plenty of people test positive on day 0 and positive on day 10, they don't get get announced as 2 new cases and then later de-notifed. The swabs are checked and no extra case would be notified to the HPSC

theballz

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Local myself, where abouts it it?

Bushy

fm

TheDoctor wrote: »

With 232 hospital cases across the 29 centres, that gives an average of 8 people per hospital.

The Mater has the highest today with 26.


On 17th January we had 1982 hospital cases across the 29 centres, that gives an average of 68 people per hospital.

CUH had the highest with 162.

As of today we are 88% down from this peak.

And today there is 4 in CUH.

SortingYouOut

theballz wrote: »

Bushy

Not worth the energy, they're essentially in the school setting they'll soon find themselves in but outdoors. Who are we to tell 16-19 year olds to give up the best years of their lives.

normanoffside

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

Just is just not true. The conspiracy around these popup test centers are getting tiresome.






https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/symptom-free-walk-in-covid19-testing.html

You don't seem to understand what I am saying at all.
They are advising not to be tested if you had tested positive in the previous six months because you can still show positive from that infection up to 6 months later.

People who are asymptomatic may be PCR positive now or have been covid positive (bit not tested) in the previous 6 months.

PCR testes in such circumstances are not fit for purpose.

Banana Republic 1

normanoffside wrote: »

You don't seem to understand what I am saying at all.
They are advising not to be tested if you had tested positive in the previous six months because you can still show positive from that infection up to 6 months later.

People who are asymptomatic may be PCR positive now or have been covid positive (bit not tested) in the previous 6 months.

PCR testes in such circumstances are not fit for purpose.

There was an episode of the simpsons.....

normanoffside

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

There was an episode of the simpsons.....

You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I know at least 5 people who caught Covid, had symptoms and isolated for 10-14 days as told but more than a month after recovery were still testing positive on a PCR test.

This is why Antigen tests should be used in such circumstances.

Ha Long Bay

normanoffside wrote: »

You don't seem to understand what I am saying at all.
They are advising not to be tested if you had tested positive in the previous six months because you can still show positive from that infection up to 6 months later.

People who are asymptomatic may be PCR positive now or have been covid positive (bit not tested) in the previous 6 months.

PCR testes in such circumstances are not fit for purpose.

I'm out. Take it to the conspiracy theory threads if you believe what you just posted that PCR testing here is picking up cases of people who were infected 6 months ago in the popup test centers.

mandrake04

mollser wrote: »

How much does a pcr test cost, out of interest?

I used to work for Abbott, Siemens, Hamilton etc.

Just for reagents and consumables such as processing plates, tips, 96 well Amplification plates it’s costs about €3000 - €3500 for a full batch of 94 samples... so roughly €30 - €40 per test.

That cost doesn’t factor in instrumentation that depending on size is in hundreds of ‘000s of €

Smaller cartridge based NAT tests have cheaper more rapid instrumentation that can run single test in less than than say 45 mins but these are €200 per test.

Then you have to pay lab staff and those who collected sample etc.

Wolf359f

normanoffside wrote: »

The problem is that PCR tests catch past infections. I already know of at least 6 people who have had covid and test positive on PCR up to 3 months after they have recovered. That's also why people are now considered negative automatically after 10 days (Previously they were continually tested until negative or 'recovered').

That's why The HSPC denotify any 'case' where they were already positive in the previous 6 months.

These test centres are in many case catching people who had covid weeks or months ago.

normanoffside wrote: »

You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I know at least 5 people who caught Covid, had symptoms and isolated for 10-14 days as told but more than a month after recovery were still testing positive on a PCR test.

This is why Antigen tests should be used in such circumstances.

Is it going to be knowing at least 4 people in your next post?
At least be consistent

normanoffside

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

I'm out. Take it to the conspiracy theory threads if you believe what you just posted that PCR testing here is picking up cases of people who were infected 6 months ago in the popup test centers.

Be out all you want but even Gerry Killeen says the same as I have been saying.

https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1376211852997373953

Wolf359f

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

I'm out. Take it to the conspiracy theory threads if you believe what you just posted that PCR testing here is picking up cases of people who were infected 6 months ago in the popup test centers.

We had people saying the same pre-second wave about a 'casedemic', how ****ing deluded they were. (unfortunatly)

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

Be out all you want but even Gerry Killeen says the same as I have been saying.

https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1376211852997373953

Is he suggesting we can disolve our covid problem in water? Everyone off to Atlantis?

Corholio

normanoffside wrote: »

but even Gerry Killeen says the same as I have been saying.

I don't think that helps your argument at all to be honest. Killeen would whore any thought around to get some press.

normanoffside

Corholio wrote: »

I don't think that helps your argument at all to be honest. Killeen would whore any thought around to get some press.

You really think Asymptomatic 'carriers' are a real source of worry in terms of infection spread?

purplefields

AdamD wrote: »

Is he suggesting we can disolve our covid problem in water? Everyone off to Atlantis?

Had to look it up, but soluble = (of a problem) able to be solved

(and paucisymptomatic means presenting a few symptoms, rather than none at all)

Renjit

AdamD wrote: »

Is he suggesting we can disolve our covid problem in water? Everyone off to Atlantis?

We just need Kong to defeat it and a little help from tap water drinking kid :P

AlmightyCushion

normanoffside wrote: »

You really think Asymptomatic 'carriers' are a real source of worry in terms of infection spread?

From November 2020:
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-most-coronavirus-cases-spread-from-people-without-symptoms-2020-11?r=US&IR=T

"You get one person who's asymptomatic and infected, and then all of a sudden four or five people in that gathering are infected," Fauci said last month. "That's the exact scenario that you're going to see in Thanksgiving."

From June 2020:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/10/dr-anthony-fauci-says-whos-remark-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-was-not-correct.html

The World Health Organization’s remark that transmission of the coronavirus by people who never developed symptoms was rare, “was not correct,” White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday.

“And we know from epidemiological studies that they can transmit to someone who is uninfected even when they are without symptoms.”

The video you posted earlier was from January 2020. He has since changed his stance.

podgeandrodge

theballz wrote: »

Full on rave with about 200 teenagers in terenure, going on hours no Garda in sight

where abouts in Terenure?

Corholio

normanoffside wrote: »

You really think Asymptomatic 'carriers' are a real source of worry in terms of infection spread?

I pay no attention to Killeen from the stuff he's been saying the past year. He adores the very mention of his name in these posts I bet.

GooglePlus

normanoffside wrote: »

You really think Asymptomatic 'carriers' are a real source of worry in terms of infection spread?

And what do you know other than second hand information from out of context clippings on twitter sites?

Asymptomatic spread is a thing but we don't know near enough about it, that's why it's important to capture these cases.

There's an abundance of articles online that might veer too far from the twitterverse for you, but they make it clear that these cases can impact spread.

What do you have against testing potential asymptomatic cases?