Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Faugheen

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

You edited it wrong. Yet more false information. Hard to take anything you post serious if you can't provide genuine information.



"5 of the last 6 months restricted to 5km from home, going to change to only 20km until Summer likely."




https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/81029-government-announces-phased-easing-of-public-health-restrictions/

No no, this person watches ALL the briefings and knows everything.

Actually no, they don't know anything, because they can never understand anything.

FintanMcluskey

jhegarty wrote: »

They get 10k between 6AM to 7PM. And between 7PM and 6AM they are allowed 1k with a pet.

Overall doesn't look any stricter to what we have had for the last 3 months.

No, it doesn’t.

And the french didn’t have a lockdown like ours in October and November.

They even withheld from introducing this level of restrictions last week, with authorities in France acknowledging that the french citizens are tired and fed up.

Try living in Ireland lads

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/25/covid-19-in-europe-france-extends-partial-lockdowns-to-more-parts-of-country-as-cases-surg

Véran defended the decision, questioning whether a full lockdown would be accepted by French people who were "exhausted by fighting tirelessly for a year"

Ha Long Bay

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Well done for managing to construct a post with out cursing.

What do you think about the current plan on the exit from L5 and what do you think should be changed?

Do you think\agree if there was a rise of cases if we move too quickly we could write off the summer with another lockdown?

Wolf359f

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No, it doesn’t.

And the french didn’t have a lockdown like ours in October and November.

They even withheld from introducing this level of restrictions last week, with authorities in France acknowledging that the french citizens are tired and fed up.

Try living in Ireland lads

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/25/covid-19-in-europe-france-extends-partial-lockdowns-to-more-parts-of-country-as-cases-surg

So we in Ireland had longer and more restrictive lockdowns compared to the French, yet the French are tired and fed up and exhausted. Thank god they don't go to war with that attitude!

Gremlinertia

Faugheen, FintanMcluskey - Enough, put each other on ignore if you can't keep it civil

FintanMcluskey

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

What do you think about the current plan on the exit from L5 and what do you think should be changed?

Do you think\agree if there was a rise of cases if we move too quickly we could write off the summer with another lockdown?

There is no reason why what’s planned for May couldn’t reopen tomorrow.

It’s incredibly cautious and taking no account for what the Irish have suffered for 5 of the previous 6 months.

If we continue to use lockdown as our only method and case as our only metric of controlling Covid there will be a risk

If we take account of all the vaccinations we won’t need another lockdown

It’s as if another month is no sacrifice whatsoever and something we should do “just in case”

FintanMcluskey

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Faugheen, FintanMcluskey - Enough trolling, put each other on ignore if you can't keep it civil

Ok I’ve put them on ignore.

Apologies

bodhrandude

I had to put this in for a laugh, but say you get stopped by the Guards at a checkpoint beyond your 5 KM and your essential excuse is 'I'm going to visit a grave, guard'. As long as they don't ask you what cemetery you are going to, you could just drive on and visit a Giants grave, couldn't you.

Glenomra

bodhrandude wrote: »

I had to put this in for a laugh, but say you get stopped by the Guards at a checkpoint beyond your 5 KM and your essential excuse is 'I'm going to visit a grave, guard'. As long as they don't ask you what cemetery you are going to, you could just drive on and visit a Giants grave, couldn't you.

Yes, great idea, and surely they can't restrict the grave visit to any one religious denomination. As a believer in ancient Druidism you could visit many grave sites in the west of Ireland. I suggest for number one visit Poulnabrone in the beautiful Burren, with a picnic on the slab stones. The emerging of the spring orchids due soon.

cheezums

Glenomra wrote: »

Yes, great idea, and surely they can't restrict the grave visit to any one religious denomination. As a believer in ancient Druidism you could visit many grave sites in the west of Ireland. I suggest for number one visit Poulnabrone in the beautiful Burren, with a picnic on the slab stones. The emerging of the spring orchids due soon.

Bloody druids ruining it for everyone.

Roger_007

bodhrandude wrote: »

I had to put this in for a laugh, but say you get stopped by the Guards at a checkpoint beyond your 5 KM and your essential excuse is 'I'm going to visit a grave, guard'. As long as they don't ask you what cemetery you are going to, you could just drive on and visit a Giants grave, couldn't you.

If visiting a grave is deemed ‘essential’ travel and that grave is in another country, is it ok go visit that grave?

Gael23

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

Away With The Fairies

Gael23 wrote: »

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

I have had some sympathy for them until now. Why do they think they can bully their way to be prioritized for vaccinations? What makes them so special to put themselves first over shop workers?

prunudo

Gael23 wrote: »

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

Going by the original plan when would they have been vaccinated anyway. Would a lot of them have been be on summer holidays under the original plan?
Flip side is, under the new plan, the older teachers who need it most will get it ahead of the younger ones.

giveitholly

Gael23 wrote: »

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

A joke really,when this is over and done with they won't come out of it looking well. Fair enough any teacher with an underlying condition should definitely get priority,but why should a healthy 20/30 year old get priority especially secondary teachers who will be on holidays in 6/7 weeks

Jim_Hodge

Roger_007 wrote: »

If visiting a grave is deemed ‘essential’ travel and that grave is in another country, is it ok go visit that grave?

It is certainly OK. Any Guardaí I've come across will ask which graveyard.

SleetAndSnow

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1379015462437146624?s=19

30,503 doses on good friday. Great news.

Eod100

Would be great to get to 30k every day once supply ramps up. Even better when it's 1 dose J and J. https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1379016497335504905?s=19

Bubbaclaus

Gael23 wrote: »

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

Let them at it.

According to this Forbes article, 17 countries have put teachers as a top priority, and 56 haven't prioritised them at all.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2021/04/02/these-17-countries-have-prioritized-teachers-for-vaccination/?sh=1c6aeb015ec6

Seems pretty obvious for them to be a priority, but then I am in one of those 17 countries. I'm struggling to think of any profession where an infected person would spend such large amounts of time with hundreds of people in various groups over the course of a week, with rules being disregarded constantly. It is absolutely nothing like retail etc.

Jasper79

Deleted User wrote: »

According to this Forbes article, 17 countries have put teachers as a top priority, and 56 haven't prioritised them at all.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2021/04/02/these-17-countries-have-prioritized-teachers-for-vaccination/?sh=1c6aeb015ec6

Seems pretty obvious for them to be a priority, but then I am in one of those 17 countries. I'm struggling to think of any profession where an infected person would spend such large amounts of time with hundreds of people in various groups over the course of a week, with rules being disregarded constantly. It is absolutely nothing like retail etc.

What about childcare workers, absolutely disgraceful that they haven't been prioritised. They spend more time with children and have alot more contact. and they won't have the summer off work.

Jasper79

Jasper79 wrote: »

What about childcare workers, absolutely disgraceful that they haven't been prioritised. They spend more time with children and have alot more contact. and they won't have the summer off work.

Yeah, prioritise them as well. But teachers go from class to class so it really does become a big number of close contacts very quickly and then they go home and spread it.

They're at a high risk of getting it because of so many contacts, and then they can spread to many people as well.

Gael23

Gael23 wrote: »

Teachers threatening to strike unless they are prioritised for vaccination

They always throw that threat around. Which is why sympathy for them is so low in general.

Jasper79

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, prioritise them as well. But teachers go from class to class so it really does become a big number of close contacts very quickly and then they go home and spread it.

Moving class to class would be secondary school, with more masks and social distancing so childcare workers def more vunerable.

Yeah, whatever. It just seems incredibly obvious as a society to prioritise the people most likely to get it and spread it to many others.

Once you get the older and vulnerable done, targeting so you reduce overall community spread must be the best way. A 30-year-old teacher is going to do a lot more damage than a 50-year-old in an office or working from home.

Wolf359f

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, whatever. It just seems incredibly obvious as a society to prioritise the people most likely to get it and spread it to many others.

Once you get the older and vulnerable done, targeting so you reduce overall community spread must be the best way. A 30-year-old teacher is going to do a lot more damage than a 50-year-old in an office or working from home.

But the 50 year old is at more risk from death from covid than the 30 year old. Going that route you would need to vaccinate from young to old (limit spread) than old to young (limit risk)

Martina1991

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, whatever. It just seems incredibly obvious as a society to prioritise the people most likely to get it and spread it to many others.

Once you get the older and vulnerable done, targeting so you reduce overall community spread must be the best way. A 30-year-old teacher is going to do a lot more damage than a 50-year-old in an office or working from home.

Has there been any evidence that teachers catch covid at a higher rate than other workers?

Covid would likely do a lot more damage to s 50 year old than a 30 year old. That's the reason behind prioritising age.

Even if teachers were prioritized, they wouldn't be done ahead of the over 70s and medically vulnerable. So they'd be started around June, when they're off for 3 months. Makes no sense to prioritize teachers.

Turtwig

Are the teachers actually threatening strike over this or is it just the media posing the question and the spokesperson being unable to rule out the possibility?

If it makes no sense to prioritise teachers, it makes no sense to prioritise anyone by their job.

Scuid Mhór

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1379015462437146624?s=19

30,503 doses on good friday. Great news.

One day at a time everyone!