Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

funnydoggy

Faugheen wrote: »

As someone who plays sport on a social level and hasn't played in a year and a half (injuries + pandemic shutdown), I'm mad to get back out and play again. I'm desperate to get back out and play again. I know I sometimes come across as someone who wants to stay locked down forever but I really don't. I'm just trying to point out that the government's response since the start of the pandemic is looking more and more shambolic as the weeks roll on and frustrations grow.

No need to explain yourself or justify anything, we all want our own normality back. Hope your injury is OK and you get back playing as soon as

TheDoctor

covidrelease wrote: »

We also have increasing herd immunity through people who have had it.

A normal country would be looking to Level 2 in May.

Here in NPHET land however the best we can hope for is a downgrade from "precarious" to maybe "the next 2 weeks are crucial" and opening click and collect.

NPHET land.

That’s funny.

Faugheen

funnydoggy wrote: »

No need to explain yourself or justify anything, we all want our own normality back. Hope your injury is OK and you get back playing as soon as

Oh I'm grand now. Weekend I was due to come back last March was when everything was shut down and it hasn't come back since.

funnydoggy

Faugheen wrote: »

Oh I'm grand now. Weekend I was due to come back last March was when everything was shut down and it hasn't come back since.

Okay now that's annoying

blowitupref

Rosita wrote: »

Interesting to see 32 cases reported in Cork, 8 more than in Kildare. About a week ago people here were saying Cork should be opening up, while they wondered what was going on in Kildare. Shows how volatile it all is.

32 daily cases or 315 cases in 14 days in a population of 543k is far from a volatile situation.

User1998

User1998 wrote: »

What would be criminal would be refining residents to 5km of their home for almost three quarters of a year because of a virus with a survival rate of 99.99% for the majority of the population

In what age groups is survival rate 99.99%?

Rosita

blowitupref wrote: »

32 daily cases or 315 cases in 14 days in a population of 543k is far from a volatile situation.

I did NOT say the situation in Cork is volatile. Read my post correctly or else leave it.

iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I did laugh at the News . The HSE and NPHET have told us time and time to listen to the science
Now the science tells us that outdoor transmission is 0.1% of cases
But now Colm Henry tells us not to listen to science as it’s misleading !!

Data =/= Science.

It is the interpretation, hypothesising and testing the observations on data that is science.

Now from the data, 0.1% of cases were outdoor, 79.9% indoor and the remainder unknown. The 80% were the easier to identify, the 20% the harder, meaning on the balance of probabilities outdoor would be higher in the unknown has these are the difficult ones to find. We can say with certainty that the true proportion of outdoor transmissions are somewhere between 0.1% and 20%, with it likely to be far closer to 0.1%, but greater than 0.1%.

Eod100

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1379505103498002433?s=19

TheDoctor

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1379505103498002433?s=19

That’s some number!

wadacrack

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1379505103498002433?s=19

Did'nt know that was even possible given the fact PCR tests can give false positives

Away With The Fairies

Messi19 wrote: »

I'm surprised you have time to ask such questions with all the reporting you've seemingly been doing

Yeah perfectly ok to vaccinate a GP's childminder and pass them off as a healthcare assistant

Deeper Blue

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1379505103498002433?s=19

So only 11 cases from 16,100 tests. Great stuff

gctest50

wadacrack wrote: »

Did'nt know that was even possible given the fact PCR tests can give false positives

Even Kirstie McGrath returned a false positive result :

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40259516.html

of all the tests to mess up on

wadacrack

wadacrack wrote: »

Did'nt know that was even possible given the fact PCR tests can give false positives

Once the correct protocols are in place the false positive rate is tiny. And here is the proof

hmmm

Faugheen wrote: »

People reading into that data in the Irish Times need to remember that it's 0.1% of cases that can be identified as the source of the transmission.

Up until last week, there was no retroactive contact tracing.

You'd swear we were the only country in the world with Covid.

Lots of countries have done retroactive contact tracing. The earliest I remember was China in April 2020 where they analysed 7,324 cases and could only find 2 which involved outdoor transmission.

Our reluctance to accept that outdoor transmission is substantially less likely, and our reluctance to tell people and businesses to go outside, has been the biggest wasted opportunity for me of this entire pandemic. Even now we're putting all this energy into airport quarantine in hotels, where if we put half as much effort into encouraging people to only meet outside it would have a much bigger impact.

PTH2009

Very positive and encouraging news today but reckon something will come along to derail it

NPHET will still be as cautious as ever and a time will come when the government have to reject their advice

TheDoctor

PTH2009 wrote: »

Very positive and encouraging news today but reckon something will come along to derail it

NPHET will still be as cautious as ever and a time will come when the government have to reject their advice

Colm Henry is charging to the podium as we speak

covidrelease

hmmm wrote: »

You'd swear we were the only country in the world with Covid.

Lots of countries have done retroactive contact tracing. The earliest I remember was China in April 2020 where they analysed 7,324 cases and could only find 2 which involved outdoor transmission.

Our reluctance to accept that outdoor transmission is substantially less likely, and our reluctance to tell people and businesses to go outside, has been the biggest wasted opportunity for me of this entire pandemic. Even now we're putting all this energy into airport quarantine in hotels, where if we put half as much effort into encouraging people to only meet outside it would have a much bigger impact.

Sadly it's NPHET way or no way. Absolutely no reason not to revert to 15 outdoors for pubs and restaurants immediately.

Yet these clowns whine on about the precarious situation, the new virus and of course the variants.

FintanMcluskey

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1379505103498002433?s=19

Excellent stuff.

If someone told me 12 months ago we would have the nursing home patients & HCW’s vaccinated, and see case rates among the vulnerable so low & still be in level 5 say pull the other one.

hynesie08

covidrelease wrote: »

Sadly it's NPHET way or no way. Absolutely no reason not to revert to 15 outdoors for pubs and restaurants immediately.

Yet these clowns whine on about the precarious situation, the new virus and of course the variants.

Doctors in being worried about illness shocker.

Happydays2020

The negativity is quite extraordinary. Thank god we have vaccines - can you imagine what it would be like if we did not have them.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1379520534032093186

Banana Republic 1

covidrelease wrote: »

Sadly it's NPHET way or no way. Absolutely no reason not to revert to 15 outdoors for pubs and restaurants immediately.

Yet these clowns whine on about the precarious situation, the new virus and of course the variants.

There are two variants in Brazil there icus are wedged, not with the old but with younger people. The reason there full is that there’s a backlog of young people who just take longer to die. Brazil also is no longer digging normal trenches to bury people but vertical pits.

Now take your blockheaded captain doctor science thinking and inform yourself of reality.

RoseStick

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

There are two variants in Brazil there icus are wedged, not with the old but with younger people. The reason there full is that there’s a backlog of young people who just take longer to die. Brazil also is no longer digging normal trenches to bury people but vertical pits.

Now take your blockheaded captain doctor science thinking and inform yourself of reality.

There's plenty of people who would be glad, happy and all too delighted to see such scenarios develop in Ireland and the EU.

wadacrack

This should be brought up at the next NPHET briefing.

https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1379528736853331973

mcburns07

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1379520534032093186

So similar to all age groups so?

Banana Republic 1

RoseStick wrote: »

There's plenty of people who would be glad, happy and all too delighted to see such scenarios develop in Ireland and the EU.

Don’t be stupid what halfwitted moronic statement.

covidrelease

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

There are two variants in Brazil there icus are wedged, not with the old but with younger people. The reason there full is that there’s a backlog of young people who just take longer to die. Brazil also is no longer digging normal trenches to bury people but vertical pits.

Now take your blockheaded captain doctor science thinking and inform yourself of reality.

Strange that it doesn't seem to bother the UK authorities as they plough on with reopening.

We have the highly transmissible uk variant anyway, so your Brazil variants won't have a chance of getting dominant here.

Lucky us.

Deeper Blue

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Brazil also is no longer digging normal trenches to bury people but vertical pits.

This is about the 5th or 6th time you've mentioned this.

We are not Brazil so stop making out that we're comparable to them in any way.