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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    GP referral data for yesterday is out. Good news - lower than last Monday. I thought we might see a big spike with the long weekend, but it looks fine.

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-04-07_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf
    Interesting jump in calls that met the criteria without clinically likely being covid.

    Anecdotally we've all noticed dry throats and sniffley noses with the sharp change in the weather. I wonder is that anything to do with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭OwenM


    If the vaccines work we won’t have any cases.

    That's very unlikely, the virus is endemic and is likely to be with us for many years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,647 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    When you add numbers together they get bigger.

    If you have .9 of an orange on a plate and then add .6 of an orange to the plate you have 1.5 pieces of orange.

    Is there a reason you picked the two ends of the quoted R number range for your orange example?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    OwenM wrote: »
    Was that an attempt at humour or did you post accidentally?

    No it’s science.


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    Only around 3k vaccines administrated Easter Sunday so 12K Saturday and Sunday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Poor Canada isn't blessed with the science know-how of our Norma.

    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1379766377502945281?s=20

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Is there a reason you picked the two ends of the quoted R number range for your orange example?

    Ok if you take 1000000 oranges and then add 1 orange to the pile you have 1000001 oranges.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,795 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,272 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »

    He probably woke up at the end of the meeting


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Ok if you take 1000000 oranges and then add 1 orange to the pile you have 1000001 oranges.

    Trying to illustrate that we don't comprehend addition and the effect of adding R numbers? Why would you add R numbers? It doesn't derive any meaningful or usable number.

    A bit like saying it was 12 degrees yesterday and 11 degrees today so 23 degrees? See - I can do addition and I know yesterday isn't today....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    seamus wrote: »
    Interesting jump in calls that met the criteria without clinically likely being covid.

    Anecdotally we've all noticed dry throats and sniffley noses with the sharp change in the weather. I wonder is that anything to do with it.

    Daughter came down with nasty cough and sore throat over the weekend, 8 days since being in school, and no external contacts. Tested Sunday and negative. Sample of one, but she caught something somehow.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100 days in and it's news that in 2 weeks time we'll allow younger pensioners to register to get the vaccine. Ugh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,795 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not too far off the figures on Prime Time last night https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1379771676687220741?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stephen Donnelly parroting Paul Reid yesterday about outdoor transmission on about cases from changing rooms

    Anything to down play the outdoor report

    If they so concerned about cases in changing rooms then come out with concrete figures of cases related to that


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,401 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    OwenM wrote: »
    Trying to illustrate that we don't comprehend addition and the effect of adding R numbers? Why would you add R numbers? It doesn't derive any meaningful or usable number.

    A bit like saying it was 12 degrees yesterday and 11 degrees today so 23 degrees? See - I can do addition and I know yesterday isn't today....

    Fairly sure he's being sarcastic


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,401 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    What's been announced now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    Where to even start...


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's been announced now?

    Everyone in Ireland is to surrender their passport immediately. Reports of an exodus of Irish people on makeshift dinghy's on their way to the UK to seek asylum. It's like Flight of the Doves for the 21st Century.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭celt262


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly parroting Paul Reid yesterday about outdoor transmission on about cases from changing rooms

    Anything to down play the outdoor report

    If they so concerned about cases in changing rooms then come out with concrete figures of cases related to that

    The GAA only allowed changing rooms open for the Inter-County Championships and i presume other amateur sports did without them as well so i would love to see them figures also.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    Think it's time for you to log off the internet for a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country


    Of all the variants, and there have been 10's of thousands, none of them have been shown to evade any vaccine so far approved, efficacy may vary slightly but universally the results show no deaths or hospitalisations even when efficacy is reduced.

    Public health restrictions on travel (or anything else) have to be proportionate to the threat, in a few weeks the death, ICU and hospital case numbers are going to implode and life goes back to normal, international travel at least within the EU will follow shortly after.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2021/0407/1208370-sna-vaccines/

    A load of education staff in the government ministers constituencies were contacted by the HSE and received their jab last week.

    This is getting beyond a joke. I don't begrudge those people a vaccine for one minute but maybe if the cunts in charge were more interested in actually getting it rolled out than hand picking which menial labourer they deem worthy of selection we would be getting somewhere.

    As that report puts it it was the reserve list for 1 postcode. Special schools staff. What is the problem exactly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Think it's time for you to log off the internet for a while.

    Sorry for trying to voice an opposing view to the continued erosion of our rights and liberties. Who would have thought a view opposing the enforced incarceration of visiting EU workers and residents who have negative COVID tests would be so unpopular.

    We are tieing ourselves up here and it is going to take years to unravel what we are doing.

    Once the precedent has been set, it is hard to row back on it.

    It's sad to see, and I guess what I would like to do is logg off out of this country for a few months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's been announced now?

    Germany, Italy and France to be added to the quarantine list?


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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly parroting Paul Reid yesterday about outdoor transmission on about cases from changing rooms

    Anything to down play the outdoor report

    If they so concerned about cases in changing rooms then come out with concrete figures of cases related to that

    Or lock the doors to the changing rooms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    OwenM wrote: »
    Of all the variants, and there have been 10's of thousands, none of them have been shown to evade any vaccine so far approved, efficacy may vary slightly but universally the results show no deaths or hospitalisations even when efficacy is reduced.

    Public health restrictions on travel (or anything else) have to be proportionate to the threat, in a few weeks the death, ICU and hospital case numbers are going to implode and life goes back to normal, international travel at least within the EU will follow shortly after.

    Its a pity NPHET and the government keep banging about these new variants then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,602 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    If the vaccines work we won’t have any cases.

    There will ALWAYS be cases, Vaccine or no Vaccine.....
    Once the serious cases are reduced significantly (which is what vaccines are designed to do) then we can move on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Or lock the doors to the changing rooms.

    Exactly what happened in my Club all year since March and every club I visited which is a lot

    No dressing rooms at all


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Its a pity NPHET and the government keep banging about these new variants then.

    The new variant drum will only grow louder I feel once vaccination rates are higher and cases hopefully stay low or stable.

    It is hard to imagine there won't be a push for some zero covid outcome even though any infection that occurs is unlikely to result in serious illness.

    These so called variants aren't going to just disappear from continental Europe in the next year, there will always being variants of COVID once COVID exists!

    If we are banning countries with covid variants, we should be banning ourselves and basically every nation in the world and will prob have to do that for 1-2 years.


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