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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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    #4682
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    The Big Easy wrote: »
    Hallelujah, the rhetoric appears to be changing!

    Nah wait a few minutes and they'll say we still need to hold firm for another six weeks!


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    #4683
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    The Big Easy wrote: »
    Hallelujah, the rhetoric appears to be changing!

    Maybe because the situation is changing and they can say things with much more confidence.


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    #4684
    Knine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Schools are absolutely not low risk! The last 2 weeks here are proof of that!


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    #4685
    [Deleted User]
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    The Big Easy wrote: »
    Hallelujah, the rhetoric appears to be changing!

    It’ll switch now to variants and international travel and hotel quarantine


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    #4686
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    harr wrote: »
    Still under investigation, blood clots happen every day it could be still a coincidence. Possibility of one case out of how many administered.

    It's a rare blood clot that is a listed side effect of Astrazeneca. Conincide my back side!


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    #4687
    lukas8888
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Knine wrote: »
    Schools are absolutely not low risk! The last 2 weeks here are proof of that!
    Explain.


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    #4688
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,272 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JP100 wrote: »
    It's a rare blood clot that is a listed side effect of Astrazeneca. Conincide my back side!

    Let the investigation take place and HPRA & NIAC come to the conclusion first


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    #4689
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Anyone who looks at the daily numbers can tell this.

    What is his expertise exactly?

    Haha 🤣


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    #4690
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    cjyid wrote: »
    #LATEST

    Prof Philip Nolan: Situation 'stable', perhaps improving.

    Nolan says analysis shows school remain a "low risk setting"

    5-day average declining "rapidly" says Nolan.

    Nolan says "we're not yet seeing" any increase in cases from Easter weekend - that's a "positive" sign.

    Great news that it's stabilising / declining with the schools closed. Now let's do that with them open.


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    #4691
    blowitupref
    Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Nolan telling us what we knew already but some journalists chose to ignore. The spike in cases we had February and mid March was because of an increase in testing.


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    #4692
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Watch someone take one tweet out of context without actually watching the briefing making it look like NPHET want to rule the world.

    The quicker NPHET are disbanded the better.


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    #4693
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Knine wrote: »
    Schools are absolutely not low risk! The last 2 weeks here are proof of that!

    Yawn...


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    #4694
    Knine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Explain.

    We followed guidelines all year, only 1 social bubble visitor. Only left the house to go for walks and food shop. My daughter caught it in school and we all tested positive. Luckily I was very careful with contacts & did not go visit my very high risk family members!


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    #4695
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Let the investigation take place and HPRA & NIAC come to the conclusion first

    On the face of it from the details in the article it would be one hell of a coincidence for this to be unrelated to the vaccine administration.


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    #4696
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,088 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Nolan telling us what we knew already but some journalists chose to ignore. The spike in cases we had February and mid March was because of an increase in testing.

    When schools are open more people go to work.
    When weather improves more people go outside.

    Insightful stuff.


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    #4697
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    JP100 wrote: »
    The quicker NPHET are disbanded the better.

    Why is that?


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    #4698
    bikeman1
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    Jesus Philip Nolan is a boring speaker. actually nodded off there!


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    #4699
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Knine wrote: »
    Schools are absolutely not low risk! The last 2 weeks here are proof of that!

    In terms of COVID spread they are considered low risk. The new variant may have altered that but the picture is still unclear in that regard. Schools are not a driver of spread. Compared to restaurants or gyms, the additional risk to the community from COVID is considerably lower.

    People seemed to think the claim is schools are zero risk. Nobody is saying that. They are a lower risk when compared to other environments. Then as a society we have to decide whether that additional risk of spread of COVID from schools is worth the trade off for children's education or not.


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    #4700
    Knine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Yawn...

    Really? Yawn?

    Hopefully what happened in my house the last 2 weeks does not visit your door! One person very close to me is very sick!


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    #4701
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Maybe because the situation is changing and they can say things with much more confidence.

    The situations "may" be changing. "Nothing is certain "

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1380204987167473664?s=19


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    #4702
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,088 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    That is an extremely low positivity rate! Much lower than in the community!

    Also, I assume this includes the workers at the hotels etc!

    A 0.023% positivity rate.

    No, it's 2.3%


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    #4703
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    normanoffside wrote: »
    No, it's 2.3%
    :pac: Oops... Thanks

    Still low and we don't know if they including staff at the hotel or not?

    Also how many among the people had negative PCR tests on arrival or is just the people who turned up with no tests?

    It is a useless number without any more detail and still well below the community rate in that time period.


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    #4704
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Let the investigation take place and HPRA & NIAC come to the conclusion first

    Is they nothing you won't defend these organisations over on here! They've been messing up in the age cohorts for Astrazeneca for a while now and now have to be dragged, kicking and screaming into making any changes to the cohorts allocated for Astrazeneca.


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    #4705
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Knine wrote: »
    Schools are absolutely not low risk! The last 2 weeks here are proof of that!

    Exactly. Schools - safe, outdoor activities - not safe! Thankfully though most people can see the spin for what it is now at this stage.


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    #4706
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Turtwig wrote: »
    On the face of it from the details in the article it would be one hell of a coincidence for this to be unrelated to the vaccine administration.

    Indeed!


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    #4707
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    That is an extremely low positivity rate! Much lower than in the community!

    Also, I assume this includes the workers at the hotels etc!

    A 2.3% positivity rate.

    These people would’ve already have a negative Covid test to allow them to travel in the first place. You’d have to imagine so how many cases are coming through currently from other countries where hotel quarantine is not required or from people bypassing the hotel quarantine coming from high-risk countries. Or how many cases came through from travel when there were absolutely no controls, i.e before the need for a negative test.

    A 2.3% positivity rate (I fixed your post) from people who would’ve tested negative a few days earlier is close enough to our overall positivity rate in the country and show the need for mandatory quarantine.


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    #4708
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Knine wrote: »
    We followed guidelines all year, only 1 social bubble visitor. Only left the house to go for walks and food shop. My daughter caught it in school and we all tested positive. Luckily I was very careful with contacts & did not go visit my very high risk family members!

    Yep, and unfortunately a regular story in communities all around the country.


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    #4709
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    These people would’ve already have a negative Covid test to allow them to travel in the first place. You’d have to imagine so how many cases are coming through currently from other countries where hotel quarantine is not required or from people bypassing the hotel quarantine coming from high-risk countries. Or how many cases came through from travel when there were absolutely no controls, i.e before the need for a negative test.

    Yea the above positive rate is wrong. It is lower than the community rate and we don't know who is testing positive.

    Is it the workers?

    Is it people coming in without having had a PCR test?

    Is it people coming with having already negative PCR tests?

    The number is useless on its own.


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    #4710
    JP100
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    Knine wrote: »
    Really? Yawn?

    Hopefully what happened in my house the last 2 weeks does not visit your door! One person very close to me is very sick!

    Sorry to hear that.


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    #4711
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 10,088 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Yea the above positive rate is wrong. It is lower than the community rate and we don't know who is testing positive.

    Is it the workers?

    Is it people coming in without having had a PCR test?

    Is it people coming with having already negative PCR tests?

    The number is useless on its own.

    Everyone who goes into MHQ gets tested on day 2 and 10 I think?


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