Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Rebelbrowser

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Seems to be some traction surrounding a new Ugandan strain, whether it’s true or not I don’t know there are articles but no mainstream pieces yet, one of them says it was detected in Latvia . IDK!

I read somewhere earlier this week about a new strain, think it was in Africa also, that was, well, new. It was neither anymore more transmissible nor anymore more dangerous. It was at that point in the article I stopped reading.... Virus spreading widely spawns variants shocker!

Banana Republic 1

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

I read somewhere earlier this week about a new strain, think it was in Africa also, that was, well, new. It was neither anymore more transmissible nor anymore more dangerous. It was at that point in the article I stopped reading.... Virus spreading widely spawns variants shocker!

I don’t think you should dismiss that easily. It only takes a few protein changes for something bad. Half the hospitalised cases in Brazil are under 50.

Doctor Jimbob

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

I don’t think you should dismiss that easily. It only takes a few protein changes for something bad. Half the hospitalised cases in Brazil are under 50.

Is that because of their variant or because of their leadership?

Banana Republic 1

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Is that because of their variant or because of their leadership?

Both, there leadership allowed the variant to take hold and now their burying people vertically.

ek motor

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Is that because of their variant or because of their leadership?

It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.

covidrelease

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Seems to be some traction surrounding a new Ugandan strain, whether it’s true or not I don’t know there are articles but no mainstream pieces yet, one of them says it was detected in Latvia . IDK!

The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.

Kivaro

ek motor wrote: »

It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.

Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.

Mimon

How long generally between test and result these days. Got it next day in the autumn presume it is similar now?

Mimon

covidrelease wrote: »

The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.

You should have taken the other pill, the red/blue one or whatever one you took has you paranoid.

Banana Republic 1

covidrelease wrote: »

The new variant yarn is getting a bit boring now, hard to get traction in the media, time to come up with something new to scare people.

Off the top of my head I've seen Cheltenham super spreader events, Dame Lane, Kowasaki disease, takeaway pints in Cork, long covid, babies being stillborn thrown out to scare people.

There are many more examples of this fearmongering but thankfully most people have now tuned out.

All of which are real things.

wadacrack

33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

ninebeanrows

wadacrack wrote: »

33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

Yeah, not pretty in eastern europe at the minute for sure.

Looks like our Christmas wave is only hitting hard there now.

-- The delay in procurement of vaccines by the EU authorities has cost thousands and thousands of lives across the EU.

pc7

wadacrack wrote: »

33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?

Banana Republic 1

Kivaro wrote: »

Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.

Like escape from LA, it be easier to just not allow Brazilians in here

ninebeanrows

pc7 wrote: »

What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?

UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now

ek motor

wadacrack wrote: »

33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

Goes to show you need an large proportion vaccinated for it to make a difference to case numbers. I think deaths and hospitalizations will be far lower for this wave.

jhegarty

ek motor wrote: »

It's because Brazil is now an open air laboratory for the virus.

Brazil is currently sitting at 1,422 deaths per 1m population.

That's better than France (1,428) , Spain (1,591) , USA (1,684) , Italy (1,768) , UK (1,855) and a whole heap of other counteries.

ek motor

pc7 wrote: »

What is going on over there for it to be getting so bad?

Restriction fatigue , people are aware of the risk somewhat, but dont really give a ****e anymore

Widdensushi

wadacrack wrote: »

33% positivity with over 35,000 daily cases. The real time count probably in excess of 60,000 with the lag of symptoms/test results etc.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375391143429599234

That amount of cases/%positivity could mean adding a 0 on the deaths, obviously there would be a lag if the cases are after increasing rapidly but it looks like muddled figures.

Vicxas

33% positivity is insane.

Sobit1964

ninebeanrows wrote: »

UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now

The new restrictions in Poland include shutting large stores like Ikea, closing hairdressers but do not include limiting movement or the number of people allowed to meet/visit each other. This cant easily be done without declaring a state of emergency.

Its also worth noting that although the ruling party are a bunch of backward idiots:

There are 27,779 COVID-19 patients in hospitals. The ministry also announced that 37,084 beds and 3,554 respirators were prepared for COVID-19 patients.

They also produce some useful numbers such as:

125 people died due to COVID-19, while 318 people died due to the coexistence of COVID-19 with other diseases.

Banana Republic 1

Sobit1964 wrote: »

The new restrictions in Poland include shutting large stores like Ikea, closing hairdressers but do not include limiting movement or the number of people allowed to meet/visit each other. This cant easily be done without declaring a state of emergency.

Its also worth noting that although the ruling party are a bunch of backward idiots:

There are 27,779 COVID-19 patients in hospitals. The ministry also announced that 37,084 beds and 3,554 respirators were prepared for COVID-19 patients.

They also produce some useful numbers such as:

125 people died due to COVID-19, while 318 people died due to the coexistence of COVID-19 with other diseases.

Germany has also closed the free movement border with Poland.

Drumpot

Kivaro wrote: »

Until Brazil (and similar countries) gets it act in order, there should be a blanket ban on all visitors from that country going anywhere else in the world.

If there’s one thing we have learned from the last 14 months , it’s how disorganised the entire world is with regards to having a consistent , cohesive plan. I’d always thought the world we know is organized chaos with a thin veneer of meaningless platitudes to imply respect and this crisis has shown people and countries true colors.

You will never get consensus so if we ban from Brazil and other countries don’t it’s pointless. Sure isn’t there talk of Irish people jumping up to Belfast to go on holidays and avoid any rep of Ireland restrictions.

I think it’s better to manage what we can which is anybody entering the country from anywhere. We should be adopting the most successful strategies from the most successful countries managing the virus and ploughing resources into it , particularly as there’s a chance we could be still managing this in some form in 12 months time.

We’ve always been behind the curve on this, not just the government, the people aswell. This is what I’ve found so disappointing, very little pro active strategies and no obvious plan. Even Christmas was the most predictable nonsense and look at what was alwasy going to happen.

There’s also a cultural and societal issue whereby people have absolutely no capacity for self reflection or any intention of taking responsibility for their role in the surge. Nobody forced people to shop or goto social gatherings over Christmas , it’s nonsense. If it’s inevitable that people can’t be responsible during a crisis we don’t have any hope whenever the next one unless we look at our behavior and honestly appraise it.

Multipass

This part of the new quarantine looks fun

‘On arrival into Dublin Airport, those entering who have to undergo mandatory quarantine will first be greeted by the board of management unit in the airport, in a separate area to other passengers.

They are then brought down to custom officials where they collect their bags and are then handed over to the Defence Forces.

Passengers are then brought by a hotel bus to the hotel. The Defence Forces will escort the bus in another vehicle.’

Poor soldiers, all that training to end up doing this pantomime.

Timmy O Toole

This south African strain is so deadly that South Africa opened up 2 weeks ago. Bars and all open.

Morries Wigs

Timmy O Toole wrote: »

This south African strain is so deadly that South Africa opened up 2 weeks ago. Bars and all open.

:pac::pac:

pjohnson

ninebeanrows wrote: »

UK variant took hold and they were pretty much living life as per normal just without restaurants/bars.

There was basically no restrictions in house visits, universities etc.

The wave should peak soon though as restrictions in for around 2 weeks now

And some were lauding Poland as Utopia and saying we should follow them and in addition open bars/restaurants.

Just ignoring it and hoping it goes away was never a viable strategy.

DOCARCH

Multipass wrote: »

Poor soldiers, all that training to end up doing this pantomime.

Probably more exciting than what a lot of them do most of the time!

Anyhow, one of the main roles of the defence forces is to 'aid the civil powers'.

Multipass

DOCARCH wrote: »

Probably more exciting than what a lot of them do most of the time!

Anyhow, one of the main roles of the defence forces is to 'aid the civil powers'.

Can they shoot if someone jumps off the quarantine bus? :pac:

yourdeadwright

At this stage the only number that should be the amount people hospitalized each day m

Reporting the number of positive tests is absolutely useless,
As iv said here before over Christmas I had 8 family members test positive not one even had a sniffle, they ranged from 11 months to 74 years of age , nothing not a cough sniffle nothing , What the point in adding them to the numbers ,