Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Van.Bosch

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I'd have a good guess it's because the state knows the high court will rule against the state in these cases

So if they know that, is it because these two are vaccinated or is the whole MHQ under threat?

You’d have to imagine anyone will challenge now. Maybe the fact Israel is off the list next week helped?

saabsaab

Over and done with now. Time to move on.

Wonder will the state continue to concede? (such as the Dubai two). They are terrified of this being challenged constitutionally.

normanoffside

Nearly 2000 of the hospitalised cases since the end of December acquired it in hospital.
What % is that of overall hospitalisations?

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/revealed-the-hospitals-where-patients-caught-covid-during-the-third-wave-of-the-pandemic-40298584.html

kk1970

saabsaab wrote: »

That makes no sense. the vaccine is for much better reasons than travel.

It's not a vaccine then , it shouldn't even be called a vaccine

RGS

The MHQ appears to be a threat to leinster's bid for their 5th European title. Its reported there are no exemptions for professional sports people. Leinster must play a French team in the semi final. So the French must quarantine here before the game or leinster will have to quarantine on their return and possibly miss a final.

Maybe leinster will have to move any home semi final to UK or Belfast.

The irfu are considering moving the womens 6 nations v France to Belfast.

Eod100

RGS wrote: »

The MHQ appears to be a threat to leinster's bid for their 5th European title. Its reported there are no exemptions for professional sports people. Leinster must play a French team in the semi final. So the French must quarantine here before the game or leinster will have to quarantine on their return and possibly miss a final.

Maybe leinster will have to move any home semi final to UK or Belfast.

The irfu are considering moving the womens 6 nations v France to Belfast.

Id say an exemption will be granted for both. Where had you seen about IRFU out of curiosity? Hadn't seen that

Stheno

normanoffside wrote: »

Nearly 2000 of the hospitalised cases since December acquired it in hospital.
What % is that of overall hospitalisations?

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/revealed-the-hospitals-where-patients-caught-covid-during-the-third-wave-of-the-pandemic-40298584.html

Up to the end of March this year a total of 13501 people have been hospitalised with Covid

normanoffside

Stheno wrote: »

Up to the end of March this year a total of 13501 people have been hospitalised with Covid

I mean since the end of December 2020.

If we count back to the start of the pandemic there would be a lot more Hospital Acquired cases than 2000.

saabsaab

kk1970 wrote: »

It's not a vaccine then , it shouldn't even be called a vaccine

What?

Doctors room ghost

Donnelly on the wireless there giving a little extra waffle of “all in this together” ahead of tomorrow’s travel restrictions to within the county.
We are going to have to tattoo our foreheads when we are fully vaccinated yet the way these bumbling clowns are going.
Sick of the fcukin lot of it

Stheno

normanoffside wrote: »

I mean since the end of December 2020.

If we count back to the start of the pandemic there would be a lot more Hospital Acquired cases than 2000.

There were 5875 hospitalised up to Dec. 26th

So whatever the difference between the two figures is what you want

Wolf359f

normanoffside wrote: »

Nearly 2000 of the hospitalised cases since December acquired it in hospital.
What % is that of overall hospitalisations?

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/revealed-the-hospitals-where-patients-caught-covid-during-the-third-wave-of-the-pandemic-40298584.html

8499 hospitalised with covid from Dec 1st 2020 until April 3rd. So take 10500 in hospital with covid of which 19% contracted it in hospital.

Stheno

Wolf359f wrote: »

8499 hospitalised with covid from Dec 1st 2020 until April 3rd. So take 10500 in hospital with covid of which 19% contracted it in hospital.

Which is low enough considering previous figures given at various times

normanoffside

Wolf359f wrote: »

8499 hospitalised with covid from Dec 1st 2020 until April 3rd. So take 10500 in hospital with covid of which 19% contracted it in hospital.

The hospitalised figures already include those who contracted it in Hospital (so they don't need to be added on).

The article says that 1972 of the hospitalised cases contracted it in Hospital since December 28th.

So I guess it's around 25% of Hospital cases since then.

Wolf359f

Stheno wrote: »

Which is low enough considering previous figures given at various times

I'd say December and January would have the highest rate. After which the vaccinations of HCW's should have been taking effect.

MerlinSouthDub

normanoffside wrote: »

It really looks like the government are terrified of this going to court.

I'd actually have thought they'd want the court to rule against it.

It would give them a good excuse for having to get rid of the whole shambles!

Wolf359f

normanoffside wrote: »

The hospitalised figures already include those who contracted it in Hospital (so they don't need to be added on).

The article says that 1972 of the hospitalised cases contracted it in Hospital since December 28th.

So I guess it's around 25% of Hospital cases since then.

We don't actually know if the hospitalised figures include those who contracted it in hospital though.
Either way it would be 19-25%

normanoffside

Wolf359f wrote: »

We don't actually know if the hospitalised figures include those who contracted it in hospital though.
Either way it would be 19-25%

The numbers given are those in Hospital with Covid 19, so surely you would have to assume they do include those who acquired it in Hospital?

marno21

saabsaab wrote: »

Is that a typo? I take the point that the Sinovac isn't as effective but it is an indicator of what could happen. Eamon did make sense especially re cheap flights being a thing of the past. We can't live the way we have been over the last 40 years wasting the resources and destroying our climate.

Not a typo. 3%. Hence the natural yogurt comment

I’ll stop flying when the GLOBAL climate issue is met with a global response. No point in stopping Irish people going to Tenerife when there are coal plants flying up in Asia. Decarbonising aviation is tricky, but luckily there are many easier options we can take such as decarbonising electricity, land transport etc.

Ryan was on the radio Friday defending data centres which are of little benefit to Ireland and its citizens and will be massive constraints towards us decarbonising. Meanwhile suggesting the sky will fall in if we build a bypass of Tipperary Town or go to the Canaries for a week. Give me a break

saabsaab

marno21 wrote: »

Not a typo. 3%. Hence the natural yogurt comment

I’ll stop flying when the GLOBAL climate issue is met with a global response. No point in stopping Irish people going to Tenerife when there are coal plants flying up in Asia. Decarbonising aviation is tricky, but luckily there are many easier options we can take such as decarbonising electricity, land transport etc.

Ryan was on the radio Friday defending data centres which are of little benefit to Ireland and its citizens and will be massive constraints towards us decarbonising. Meanwhile suggesting the sky will fall in if we build a bypass of Tipperary Town or go to the Canaries for a week. Give me a break

'it has a 3% efficacy after one dose and a 56% efficacy after one dose.'


That doesn't make any sense. It it a typo?

saabsaab

saabsaab wrote: »

'it has a 3% efficacy after one dose and a 56% efficacy after one dose.'


That doesn't make any sense. It it a typo?

What do you think?

CruelSummer

Boggerman12 wrote: »

Not a hope was he asked such questions.just let run away with long Covid,variants and ah maybe the autumn if we’re well behaved.the usual auld waffle from the fear mongering zero Covid fanatics.

Had to laugh at his 'Nothing should reopen until Autumn', and we should all lockdown again to get to Zero like we did in last year.
No acknowledgement of hospitalisations and deaths plummeting, no acknowledgement of the improving situation in the U.K. where they are reopening beer gardens next week. Imagine trying to kick the can down the road until Autumn when you're going to almost certainly be gifted with seasonality and Covid beginning to circulate again. He also seemed to want to hide behind the 'when everyone is fully vaccinated' line to try and get the longest possible out of the restrictions. It's like they'll use any angle possible to keep them in place.

Lucas Hood

303 cases 2 deaths

TheDoctor

Lucas Hood wrote: »

303 cases 2 deaths

Nice to see the deaths back in single digits

theballz

Listened to McWilliams this week. The stats he referenced re our ICU capacity per 100,000 people was terrifying and is ultimately the driver behind the heavy lockdown we have over the last year.

5 ICU beds per 100,000 people in Ireland (same as Mexico) vs 39 ICU beds per 100,000 people in Germany yet we have one of the best funded health systems in the world?

The HSE needs a major reform post covid. Paul Reid (as great as a job he has done) needs to go and we need an experienced CEO who has managed such a reform in the past to do it. Stephen Donnelly also has no idea what he’s doing and is one of the most disingenuous politician I’ve ever seen.

Last year people had a sense of togetherness and hope, now it’s frustration and anger.

WoollyRedHat

Lucas Hood wrote: »

303 cases 2 deaths

Brilliant. If we get a week of cases averaging out in the 300s or below that would be excellent.

There have been Covid-19 outbreaks linked to at least three flights into Ireland in the past fortnight, according to a spokesperson from the Department of Health.

The spokesperson said two of these outbreaks involve possible variants of concern and are still being investigated.


A spokesperson said there is some evidence that individuals who have already been vaccinated have subsequently been diagnosed with a variant of concern.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0411/1209143-covid-ireland/

zebastein

Lucas Hood wrote: »

303 cases 2 deaths

Lowest number for a long time I guess

Hard to believe we are still in severe lockdown with case numbers so low.

The illness peaked 4 months ago...