Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Batattackrat

The end of the month is time to start opening up to Level 2 restrictions and encourage outdoor meetups.

With the way vacinnes are going who knows what way we will go.

Last summer was an absolute farce from the government where we should have been level two for the entirety of it and not having mandatory quarantine in place for Xmas was cowardly and pathetic.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

You would hope so. I know someone who has being tested 9 times for no good reason

What is it to you?

And if they are negative every time they are driving the positive rate lower and improving the epidemiological picture

PTH2009

Batattackrat wrote: »

The end of the month is time to start opening up to Level 2 restrictions and encourage outdoor meetups.

With the way vacinnes are going who knows what way we will go.

Last summer was an absolute farce from the government where we should have been level two for the entirety of it and not having mandatory quarantine in place for Xmas was cowardly and pathetic.

Sadly that won't happen, NPHET won't want that and the government don't have the balls to disobey the health advice

brickster69

Sofa King Great wrote: »

With the news of delays on J&J on top of the issues around Astra Zenaca we need to come up with a plan B.

If plan A with AZ was don't give to older people but give to the younger ones, then it is give to the older but not the young. I dread to think what plan B will be like.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What is it to you?

And if they are negative every time they are driving the positive rate lower and improving the epidemiological picture

They talk about ‘curtain twitchers’ when they make statements like that judging other people.

iamwhoiam

Altough I will take what I am given and grateful to get AZ . I will be slightly miffed that it takes 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated . It means if a vaccine passport is rolled out then the 60-70 will wait much longer for it

crossman47

seamus wrote: »

Except for the fact their remit is to issue public health advice in the context of a public health emergency. They cannot advise things which are not in the best interests of public health.

It is the government's job to balance this against the social and economic impact of such advice.

It is not NPHET's job to consider anything outside of their remit. There is nothing stopping the Government from reducing the restrictions, but there are a lot of things stopping NPHET from recommending a reduction.

Exactly. But many people simultaneously criticise NPHET and want to give them a wider role. Go figure!

DebDynamite

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Essentially we’ve locked down for a year now while waiting on vaccines so people don’t get sick.

Now we won’t use the bloody things in case a tiny number get a blood clot.

All of this while we ask healthy people to get tested and see if they are sick...

Never thought I’d wish for a huge financial crisis but I fear money is the only thing that will bring us back to reality.

And going by some of the posts over on the “anyone have a Covid-19 vaccine yet?” thread, people who got the vaccine are talking about how they’re feeling after it and listing their side effects... by the sounds of a majority of the posts, more people are feeling more ill from getting the vaccine they would getting Covid! It’s all a bit mental really.

(Not anti-vaccine btw, I’d take the AZ myself right now)

irishguy1983

Batattackrat wrote: »

The end of the month is time to start opening up to Level 2 restrictions and encourage outdoor meetups.

With the way vacinnes are going who knows what way we will go.

Last summer was an absolute farce from the government where we should have been level two for the entirety of it and not having mandatory quarantine in place for Xmas was cowardly and pathetic.

I am expecting level 3 in June at most.....Putting all your eggs in the vaccines basket has screwed us.....I am not disagreeing with you! I just don't think there is any hope of major easing in May

saabsaab

Vaccines for our population are still the way to go. Hopefully nothing gets in the way of the roll out.

Hurrache

Deleted User wrote: »

This whole ‘NPHET don’t want the attention’ is nonsense.

There’s a reason why we constantly hear them on the radio etc. Ray Walley (works with NPHET) pillorying old people for going to funerals. Mary Favier amongst others constantly on about drinking. Philip Nolan having Twitter arguments with opinions he doesn’t like.

If they really didn’t want to use the media they wouldn’t. Whether you agree with their decisions or not, to say they don’t want to be in the papers, on tv etc? Rubbish!

(I will say in recent weeks they have been better and it seems as if Glynn is the main and only voice).

- Hey NPHET, can you give an oul radio or tv interview, maybe regular conferences or engage with the public a bit more?

- Nope, we shouldn't.

- [the perpetually outraged] It's a bleedin disgrace, who do dese peeple think they are working in secret not answering to everyone! They should be made by the gubberment answer anything asked of them! Dey wurk in the bleedin public service!

Charles Babbage

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Altough I will take what I am given and grateful to get AZ . I will be slightly miffed that it takes 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated . It means if a vaccine passport is rolled out then the 60-70 will wait much longer for it

Could you have a situation where person of 60 years and a month would get an AZ vaccine and wait 12 weeks for dose 2, while a 59 year old person would get their first Biontech or Moderna vaccine 3 weeks later, assuming a rollout where more people get done by June, and then the full cover after 4 weeks, while their older sibling has to wait another 5 weeks? So the older person gets the worst cover?

NIAC Fanboy

But Dr Glynn said pubs present “high risk” environments due to “poor ventilation” in some establishments as well as a mixing of numerous households.

He said “you can’t get away from the fact that after a few drinks you let your guard down.”

He said that consideration will be given to the hospitality industry when the government looks at the easing of strict lockdown rules for the coming months.

But said “we saw the effects” over the Christmas period and said that a small number of “super spreader” events can have a major impact on the trajectory of the disease.

NIAC Fanboy

But the pubs were closed at Christmas.

RGS

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1381949962951491586?s=20


Why is the deputy CMO the person communicating that there will be a plan?

Where is the Taoiseach/MoH?

Simple because the deputy CMO is in charge.

is_that_so

RGS wrote: »

Simple because the deputy CMO is in charge.

Nah, he was in front of a Dail committee and NPHET will have input into any plan.

Faugheen

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

But the pubs were closed at Christmas.

Some pubs were closed at Christmas.

Working class heroes

Faugheen wrote: »

Some pubs were closed at Christmas.

Pub near me never closed :mad:

Deeper Blue

Why do we never hear from the Taoiseach? Boris Johnson is on TV every second minute in the UK.

ednwireland

Working class heroes wrote: »

Pub near me never closed :mad:

pubs near me never opened :mad:

ednwireland

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Why do we never hear from the Taoiseach? Boris Johnson is on TV every second minute in the UK.

we have a taoiseach ? your kidding me right

saabsaab

A fair few pubs were 'open' to the right people.

Working class heroes

saabsaab wrote: »

A fair few pubs were 'open' to the right people.

Indeed. One near me sent out invites for Cheltenham week.

iamwhoiam

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Why do we never hear from the Taoiseach? Boris Johnson is on TV every second minute in the UK.

Just as well we dont have to listen to MM bumbling and saying nothing

NIAC Fanboy

Faugheen wrote: »

Some pubs were closed at Christmas.

Wrong. Pubs operating as restaurants were open, but the regular pubs remained closed.

eastie17

Sofa King Great wrote: »

With the news of delays on J&J on top of the issues around Astra Zenaca we need to come up with a plan B.

The reopening of society cannot be linked to a vaccination programme if there is so much uncertainty around the vaccines and their delivery

It appears that a call was made to rely solely on vaccination as the way out of this a number of months back and any other plan was abandoned.

Totally agree, it shouldn't be that hard with all of the time elapsed and the data gathered on this to come up with a reasonable plan that allows people to have lives, some semblance of an economy and an acceptable number of people in hospitals, ICU and even indeed dying. Even during the 4 month lockdown we have just had people still died and thats just the way it is.

Knowing the current variant that is in community transition they should ahve the data to say what kind of activity results in what kind of numbers, and what our safe thresholds are.
They dont appear to have come up with any other ideas since last March except lockdown and pray for vaccines. That's not leadership, thats being a victim of circumstance, its the easy option. When is the flipover from MM to Leo supposed to happen? MM has reached his goal of not becoming the only FF leader to become Taoiseach, I presume there is some pension threshold he might need to meet next before he'll be happy to go?

stephenjmcd

358 new cases.

18 additional deaths (7 in April, 3 in March, 3 in February, 3 in January. 1 death was reported as occurring before January)

Loafing Oaf

eastie17 wrote: »

MM has reached his goal of not becoming the only FF leader to become Taoiseach, I presume there is some pension threshold he might need to meet next before he'll be happy to go?

End of 2022 I believe. Apparently he fully intends to lead FF into the next GE, but he would say that, wouldn't he?

aziz

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

End of 2022 I believe. Apparently he fully intends to lead FF into the next GE,

Rest of Fianna Fáil, “ like fook he will “

marno21

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

End of 2022 I believe. Apparently he fully intends to lead FF into the next GE, but he would say that, wouldn't he?

If he does he’ll finish them off. Who in their right mind would vote for them after this showing. It’ll be FG vs SF and it’ll be the dirtiest election we’ve had in a while.

Most of their voters are getting old and dying off now. They don’t have a reason to be relevant except for the civil war politics angle. And that won’t get them far in the 2020s