Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

crossman47

Klonker wrote: »

You're probably right but the schools closing the next 2 weeks should help. Easter weekend might negate this though!

I don't think schools closing helps at all. Children will now meet up in unsupervised groups. In school, teachers do their best to abide by protocols (which go out the window once children go outside the gates).

Turtwig

Klonker wrote: »

NPHET taking the most negative view or projection. I'm shocked!

The letter will be published next week. We'll know then what the ranges were (if there were any) . I'm actually struggling to think of a time they went with the most pessimistic projections. Or even the second most.

Klonker

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Be much better if they just went with shur it’ll be grand...

Actually I think it would be better if they explained what they mean when they say elderly and vulnerable, wouldn't you? Would be very easy to do using the vaccine groupings as the measurement of people they are talking about.

The strange thing is currently less than 3% of under 65s are being hospitalised. But by NPHETs calculations when we vaccinate the vulnerable under 65s somehow out hospitalisation rate will increase to 3.5%
Surely you think that needs a bit more further scrutiny or are you just happy to take everything they say as gospel?

Klonker

Turtwig wrote: »

The letter will be published next week. We'll know then what the ranges were (if there were any) . I'm actually struggling to think of a time they went with the most pessimistic projections. Or even the second most.

Would longest lockdown in EU with one of youngest populations not be seen as a pessimistic projection?

Turtwig

Klonker wrote: »

Would longest lockdown in EU with one of youngest populations not be seen as a pessimistic projection?

That wouldn't be a projection.
Don't understand your question at all really.
A projection is an estimate using current data to predict a future outcome or likelihood.

bb1234567

jhegarty wrote: »

Brazil is currently sitting at 1,422 deaths per 1m population.

That's better than France (1,428) , Spain (1,591) , USA (1,684) , Italy (1,768) , UK (1,855) and a whole heap of other counteries.

Yes but on trajectory of Brazil's current death rate it will far surpass all of those countries

lawred2

crossman47 wrote: »

I don't think schools closing helps at all. Children will now meet up in unsupervised groups. In school, teachers do their best to abide by protocols (which go out the window once children go outside the gates).

jaysus - let's lock them into cages altogether

children in school - oh it's a breeding ground
children not in school - oh it's a breeding ground

Klonker

Turtwig wrote: »

That wouldn't be a projection.
Don't understand your question at all really.
A projection is an estimate using current data to predict a future outcome or likelihood.

It's not directly a projection but indirectly I think it is a projection but I can see how someone might disagree.

My argument is that from looking at the data they believed that it was necessary to have the longest lockdown in Europe over the last year. They believed it was necessary due their projections if we did not have this level of lockdown.

boardise

For a little comparison -just heard that cases in France yesterday were the equivalent of c. 3,500 in Ireland.
Interestingly the lockdown travel limit is set at 10km.

Wolf359f

Amirani wrote: »

Definitely a better day of numbers than last Friday looking at those.

The swabs and cases are yoyo-ing up and down far too much to take a single day and compare it to the previous week. Especially with Paddy's day filtering in with presumably extra swabs on the Friday etc...

Eod100

Some good news here

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1375453402520555526

Bridge93

Did Brazil not stop reporting figures last summer for a time or am I thinking of somewhere else? I would have my doubts about the accuracy of their numbers. The size of the country, pressure from govt and conditions that large swathes of the population live in must make it a near impossible task for the health officials to provide a full picture

Polar101

jhegarty wrote: »

Brazil is currently sitting at 1,422 deaths per 1m population.

That's better than France (1,428) , Spain (1,591) , USA (1,684) , Italy (1,768) , UK (1,855) and a whole heap of other counteries.

And guess which of these has the youngest population?

GeorgeBailey

Ms2011 wrote: »

Collected my kids from school at 12, they came out with all their books and copies in their bags like before Christmas, hope that's not a sign that they won't be going back after Easter

Same happened with my daughter. I think most schools are doing the same. Confident that it's just precautionary and that they'll be going back as planned... was also confident that they'd be going back on time after Christmas so my track-record is pretty, pretty good.

lawred2

Ms2011 wrote: »

Collected my kids from school at 12, they came out with all their books and copies in their bags like before Christmas, hope that's not a sign that they won't be going back after Easter

same as ours

teachers are well lining up an early summer

prunudo

I'm pretty sure they did the same at the October midterm and likewise there were posts at that time saying they wouldn't go back either.
Wouldn't read too much into it. Unless we are hitting 4-5k cases a day the schools will be back after Easter break.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375437888851210247

Eod100

Ms2011 wrote: »

Collected my kids from school at 12, they came out with all their books and copies in their bags like before Christmas, hope that's not a sign that they won't be going back after Easter

Think lot of schools will do deep clean so makes sense. And as a precaution just in case. Cant see guidance around schools changing drastically over next few weeks.

covidrelease

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375437888851210247

Welcome to 2 hours ago;)

Eod100

Weak enough response

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1375469552583213060

Turtwig

Eod100 wrote: »

Weak enough response

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1375469552583213060

What exactly can he do though?
The reasons these private hospitals have done these things is because they know they're not really going to be held accountable.

lawred2

Turtwig wrote: »

What exactly can he do though?
The reasons these private hospitals have done these things is because they know they're not really going to be held accountable.

very important people you know

ehh misleading!!!

I opened the page expecting a bus full of Joyce's and an official i'm "calling out Covid" video!!


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/first-travellers-arrive-at-quarantine-hotel-%e2%80%93-with-one-appearing-to-resist-securitys-escort-efforts/ar-BB1f03uP?li=BBr5KbJ

#dissapointed!

Oranage2

What a spit in the face to all the front line workers, all the people staying within 5km, all the people who haven't seen loved ones in months.

Same as the golfgate, same as the factories remaining opened, same as the plane load of foreign fruit pickers

The elite everyone...

covidrelease

Oranage2 wrote: »

What a spit in the face to all the front line workers, all the people staying within 5km, all the people who haven't seen loved ones in months.

Same as the golfgate, same as the factories remaining opened, same as the plane load of foreign fruit pickers

The elite everyone...

Don't forget the lad that took thim for $$$millions for useless ventilators.

To be honest at this stage people who blindly follow the rules handed down by these donkeys have only themselves to blame.

Eod100

Turtwig wrote: »

What exactly can he do though?
The reasons these private hospitals have done these things is because they know they're not really going to be held accountable.

He could publicly call for the CEOs resignation. Hard to see how how he could last in his position after that.

tiredblondie

Qrt wrote: »

Went to the Walk-In centre yesterday, have to say it was very well run. It was my first covid test too so it was a decent excuse to get out of the house. They said it would be ~24 hours for a result, hopefully get a result soon.

What made you go for a test??
I presume you have no symptoms or weren't feeling unwell!

jackboy

Eod100 wrote: »

He could publicly call for the CEOs resignation. Hard to see how how he could last in his position after that.

Absolutely. By giving those vaccines to younger healthy people instead of vulnerable groups he put public health at risk. Shouldn’t be involved with any hospitals again.

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

What a spit in the face to all the front line workers, all the people staying within 5km, all the people who haven't seen loved ones in months.

Same as the golfgate, same as the factories remaining opened, same as the plane load of foreign fruit pickers

The elite everyone...

Or.....

he had 20 doses left after working through the HSE prioritisation (doses that were only left because of bad management of the vaccination process by the HSE) and thought “what key workers can I get hold of, right now?”

And what key workers’ numbers is he going to have in his phone other than his kids’ teachers?

Hardly the same as golfgate

Mitch Connor

it is clear the 20 teachers should not have got the vaccines, but I'd say the government are delighted.

While people are frothing at the mouth of 20 teachers getting vaccines out of order they aren't;

1. Asking why there were 170k vaccines available but not yet provided as of Monday morning.
2. Asking why only 6 second doses were handed out on Sunday, when 170k doses were available.
3. Asking why vaccinaotrs were only being offered contracts last week - why has this not been in place since early in the year?
4. Why Mass Vaccination centres were announced, with a number of the centres having no clue they were selected, or even suitable?
5. Why Teachers are not being vaccinated now in the first place - considering they decided to reopen schools.

on my 5th point there - should the outrage be that 20 teachers got vaccinated or that ONLY 20 teachers got vaccinated. And we are getting outraged at teachers being vaccinated. Teachers. Not CEOs. Not family of Ministers. Teachers.

Can't help but feel people talking with such outrage on this are getting outraged at the low priority problems and not focusing on the much bigger issues with the rollout - which if were not an issue would mean 20 teachers getting vaccinated would be small fecking potatoes.