Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Widdensushi

celt262 wrote: »

How long have they both had them open?

Did they ever close in Spain? Other than short regional lockdowns restaurants and bars have been open, with earlier closing times.

Father Hernandez

brickster69 wrote: »

Ireland doing great in Europe.

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1382582124864229376

Considering how bad Portugal was in January (worse than Ireland), that is a remarkable turnaround for the country and they've started a phased opening of their economy and society.

Bars/restuarants (terraces), swimming pools, golf courses, group physical activity all allowed with more on the way on April 19th.

Good on them.

Better than the shítshow we have in Ireland.

Faugheen

Gabby here asking if J&J arrived into the country. Paul Reid said at the HSE briefing earlier that it had arrived before making an awfully bad joke about them being in quarantine which I shamefully giggled at.

Do these journalists not pay any attention to what’s going on?

Sanjuro

Supercell wrote: »

With all the positive news and talk of easing restrictions it seems to me that we are taking our eye of the ball a little.
The P1 varient appears to be widely taking over from the UK variant (B117) , hits younger people harder and vaccines do not seem to be as effective. Seems to be very little thought or mention of this going on, should we be concerned?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1382242716667502594?s=20

https://twitter.com/rbclouston/status/1382731098095026178?s=20

Vaccination's primary goal is to reduce deaths and hospital cases. If 50,000 people contracted covid and it was nothing more than a cold, then we'd be laughing. Elimination is not the goal of vaccination. It'd be brilliant. But not the goal.

titan18

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Considering how bad Portugal was in January (worse than Ireland), that is a remarkable turnaround for the country and they've started a phased opening of their economy and society.

Bars/restuarants (terraces), swimming pools, golf courses, group physical activity all allowed with more on the way on April 19th.

Good on them.

Better than the shítshow we have in Ireland.

Ya, I think they reopened stuff like hairdressers in March. Just shows how cowardly ours are in comparison.

celt262

Widdensushi wrote: »

Did they ever close in Spain? Other than short regional lockdowns restaurants and bars have been open, with earlier closing times.

Maybe initially but there open a good while now.

Faugheen

“I’m not fearing, or predicting, or warning. I’m hoping.”

Ronan Glynn has definitely had enough.

funnydoggy

That Eric guy is great for a bit of alarmism to be fair. Take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Faugheen

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

It's obvious what she's at here. Desperately trying to get Gylnn to say J&J not being used would set us back. Then she gets a nice headline about us being held back by vaccines sitting in the country.

I think Nolan's close to telling her to fúck off.

Noticed that, but to her defence I was scratching my head a bit at what he was trying to say.

caveat emptor

I think this is the only thing that'll get us out of this mess. The most effective vaccines are not being manufactured or delivered in the quantities required to snuff it out. The pace at which it is evolving will mean we may always be on the back foot unless everyone has access etc. Hopefully Biden can do something although I doubt it. Pharma has deep pockets.

https://twitter.com/globalhlthtwit/status/1382624552233091079?s=20

Widdensushi

It's all about the weather, that's why people worrying about us rapidly returning to the situation we were in January don't need to worry.

SCOOP 64

Widdensushi wrote: »

It's all about the weather, that's why people worrying about us rapidly returning to the situation we were in January don't need to worry.

Sunny all day to day,lovely.

zebastein

Supercell wrote: »

With all the positive news and talk of easing restrictions it seems to me that we are taking our eye of the ball a little.
The P1 varient appears to be widely taking over from the UK variant (B117) , hits younger people harder and vaccines do not seem to be as effective. Seems to be very little thought or mention of this going on, should we be concerned?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1382242716667502594?s=20

https://twitter.com/rbclouston/status/1382731098095026178?s=20

Look at the scale of this chart! P1 is 1% even though on the picture it looks like it is half of B117.


But there is a big issue when presenting percentages when the total number changed dramatically.


Imagine at time 0: you have 1998 cases of B117 and 2 cases of P1. The part of P1=0.1% of total
Imagine that a few weeks later you have a very efficient vaccine that dropped the number of cases. Let's say you now have: 99 cases of B117 and 1 case of P1. P1=1% of total.



You can claim that the part of P1 it has multiplied by 10. Or you can claim that the number of cases of P1 has been reduced by 50%. Both are true, one is alarmist, one is good news.

is_that_so

Widdensushi wrote: »

It's all about the weather, that's why people worrying about us rapidly returning to the situation we were in January don't need to worry.

Also like most of last summer the virus is not lurking around every corner nor in every puff of wind.

Supercell

Supercell wrote: »

With all the positive news and talk of easing restrictions it seems to me that we are taking our eye of the ball a little.
The P1 varient appears to be widely taking over from the UK variant (B117) , hits younger people harder and vaccines do not seem to be as effective. Seems to be very little thought or mention of this going on, should we be concerned?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1382242716667502594?s=20

https://twitter.com/rbclouston/status/1382731098095026178?s=20

How that fella hasn't been banned from twitter for spreading misinformation I don't know. There have been 40 cases to date of P.1 in the UK. There is no indication it is gaining any ground at all let alone outcompeting B.1.1.7. It is certainly not "surging". It's also unlikely to have a significant effect on vaccine efficacy.

wadacrack

Zara King back again with braindead questions

Gael23

Hairdressers in the north opening on Friday, non essential retail the following week and indoor dining the end of may.

Something must give in this country or else our economy is destroyed fro a generation

BlondeBomb

stephenjmcd wrote: »

8 deaths.

(4 occurred in April, 2 in February and 2 in January or earlier)

309 new cases.

Are we heading for a backlog? Seems to be underreporting last few days.

is_that_so

Hardyn wrote: »

How that fella hasn't been banned from twitter for spreading misinformation I don't know. There have been 40 cases to date of P.1 in the UK. There is no indication it is gaining any ground at all let alone outcompeting B.1.1.7. It is certainly not "surging". It's also unlikely to have a significant effect on vaccine efficacy.

In the very early days he hinted he was part of certain research groups and got pulled up over it. He's a pure self-publicist and seems terrified of this whole thing.

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1382742322803249155

Faugheen

wadacrack wrote: »

Zara King back again with braindead questions

Nothing wrong with asking when expectant mothers can have their partners with them. A lot of people are in that boat and in fairness to her, there is no urgency around it from anyone in government or the HSE.

I’m starting to think you have an issue with her rather than the questions she asks.

is_that_so

Gael23 wrote: »

Hairdressers in the north opening on Friday, non essential retail the following week and indoor dining the end of may.

Something must give in this country or else our economy is destroyed fro a generation

4th May is two weeks from next Tuesday!

Faugheen

Gael23 wrote: »

Something must give in this country or else our economy is destroyed fro a generation

Scaring people again?

is_that_so

Faugheen wrote: »

Nothing wrong with asking when expectant mothers can have their partners with them. A lot of people are in that boat and in fairness to her, there is no urgency around it from anyone in government or the HSE.

I’m starting to think you have an issue with her rather than the questions she asks.

She has a particular type of question, which is largely better suited to news gossip slots.

Gael23

Faugheen wrote: »

Scaring people again?

Do you honestly believe people won’t travel up north to shop or get their hair done?

titan18

Gael23 wrote: »

Hairdressers in the north opening on Friday, non essential retail the following week and indoor dining the end of may.

Something must give in this country or else our economy is destroyed fro a generation

Ya, there won't be pent up savings for long in some counties when the North reopens. Just going to us who lose out economically

wadacrack

Faugheen wrote: »

Nothing wrong with asking when expectant mothers can have their partners with them. A lot of people are in that boat and in fairness to her, there is no urgency around it from anyone in government or the HSE.

I’m starting to think you have an issue with her rather than the questions she asks.

That's not how she asked it. it was an impossible question to answer . Which is the case with the majority of her questions. Her questions always strike me as self indulgence

Faugheen

is_that_so wrote: »

She has a particular type of question, which better suited to news gossip slots.

What’s that? Weddings? Hairdressers? Maternity Hospitals?

I can guarantee that’s of more interest to women (especially young women) than when they’re going to get their vaccine.

Don’t see why that belongs in ‘gossip’ slots and the fact you’re so dismissive of those issues is a sign that it doesn’t impact you.

Just because it doesn’t impact you doesn’t mean that applies across the board.

funnydoggy

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1382742322803249155

That is so important. I know about the 3 months to report a death, but this should be reported better IMO as it's a tad misleading. We really aren't in a horrible place right now

Faugheen

wadacrack wrote: »

That's not how she asked it. it was an impossible question to answer . Which is the case with the majority of her questions. Her questions always strike me as self indulgence

And yet he said he’ll come back to her on Monday with an answer.

If she didn’t push him on it then this would not have happened. It’s a very big issue for families. Imagine a mother going in for her 20 week scan and finding that she miscarried with her partner sat out in the car? It’s horrific.