Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

giveitholly

saabsaab wrote: »

Might need them for travel anyway and what if no others are open.

Yeah will want them for international travel,that I understand,but to go to the pub,cinema get a haircut,no thanks

podgeandrodge

giveitholly wrote: »

Vaccine passports to get into a pub? Will get a vaccine but won't be supporting any business that requires a passport to enter?

Fully agree. Outrageous. But if I have my vaccine and them is the rules, I'll be in that pub as soon as

stephenjmcd

KrustyUCC wrote: »

August for pubs or hotels

Wow that's a bleak prediction

Ignore that. Some utterly moronic posts

eagle eye

KrustyUCC wrote:

August for pubs or hotels

Wow that's a bleak prediction

What's bleak about that? Seems like a positive post to me.
It's only 16 or so weeks away.

harr

eagle eye wrote: »

What's bleak about that? Seems like a positive post to me.
It's only 16 or so weeks away.

August would be to late for a lot hotels and pubs especially those depending on summer trade. A lot just wouldn’t bother opening for 4 weeks of summer trade and stay closed permanently.
Hotels need to be opened in June even if it’s just residents only and outdoor for pubs and restaurants .

is_that_so

giveitholly wrote: »

Vaccine passports to get into a pub? Will get a vaccine but won't be supporting any business that requires a passport to enter?

It's really not how it's going to work at all. Judging by our keenness to have the vaccine passports deferred till September we are viewing it as a travel option only even if the idea of stopping people doing things excites Donnelly.

irishguy1983

What about gyms/swimming pools folks? Are they in the category of pubs??!

I know nobody has the answer to the above - just looking for some thoughts please!

BlondeBomb

179 in hospitals this morning, down from 181 yesterday morning.

Nice to see two drops in hospital numbers over the weekend!

is_that_so

irishguy1983 wrote: »

What about gyms/swimming pools folks? Are they in the category of pubs??!

I know nobody has the answer to the above - just looking for some thoughts please!

They will probably open in May or June at the very latest and they have systems in place from last year.

irishguy1983

is_that_so wrote: »

They will probably open in May or June at the very latest and they have systems in place from last year.

Interesting - I thought they might have been in relatively similar category to pubs but hope you are right

is_that_so

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Interesting - I thought they might have been in relatively similar category to pubs but hope you are right

Thread and chat on it here.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058125208

Eod100

Wonder will India be added to MHQ here soon?

Corholio

eagle eye wrote: »

What's bleak about that? Seems like a positive post to me.
It's only 16 or so weeks away.

I don't know if time has been distorted for some in this covid world but 16 weeks is a long time. I think we have been so used to waiting long periods for things to change and easing of restrictions that 3 months is fine for some to wait for things, while for others is a living nightmare to imagine doing so, with almost no appreciation of that from the former. This 'sure if I can do it, you can do it' stuff.

is_that_so

Eod100 wrote: »

Wonder will India be added to MHQ here soon?

Any decisions on it are always preceded by a game of spin the wheel in the DoH!

Eod100

is_that_so wrote: »

Any decisions on it are always preceded by a game of spin the wheel in the DoH!

Johnson cancelled a trip there. Maybe they will wait for UK to put them on theirs and follow suit.

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

Wonder will India be added to MHQ here soon?

Who knows but firstly the VUI doesn't share the deletion of other VOC. Secondly there are thousands of variants, we need to get away from the jumping up and down panic each time one gets highlighted. Staines et al peddling straight away the vaccine is resistant waffle without a shred of evidence.

Finally, I work with a few Indian people and 1 of them went home there before Christmas for family reasons. He said it was basically normal life over there, just had to wear a mask, everywhere open, events running, big weddings, places packed.

It's no surprise the cases took off.

KrustyUCC

eagle eye wrote: »

What's bleak about that? Seems like a positive post to me.
It's only 16 or so weeks away.

All hospitality being shut for at least seven months of the year is bleak to me

Huge cost to the economy and many businesses wouldn't reopen

Each to their own though

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Who knows but firstly the VUI doesn't share the deletion of other VOC. Secondly there are thousands of variants, we need to get away from the jumping up and down panic each time one gets highlighted. Staines et al peddling straight away the vaccine is resistant waffle without a shared of evidence.

Finally, I work with a few Indian people and 1 of them went home there before Christmas for family reasons. He said it was basically normal life over there, just had to wear a mask, everywhere open, events running, big weddings, places packed.

It's no surprise the cases took off.

Think its more the high daily case numbers than the variant at this point being an issue. Yeah politicians still holding packed public rallies lately too.

Stheno

Eod100 wrote: »

Think its more the high daily case numbers than the variant at this point being an issue. Yeah politicians still holding packed public rallies lately too.

Plus mass gathering at religious festivals

muddypuppy

Eod100 wrote: »

Think its more the high daily case numbers than the variant at this point being an issue. Yeah politicians still holding packed public rallies lately too.

If high case numbers was the actual reason for MHQ then places like Germany and Poland would already be in it.
It's a mix of that, variants, which state can we poke without getting bitten too much, randomness and also countries with too many irish citizen are out of the list because otherwise they would fill up the hotels too soon.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

What's bleak about that? Seems like a positive post to me.
It's only 16 or so weeks away.

are you on crack?? seems positive to you.
If a person is being water boarded then two minutes of breath seems positive then does it? it's the end of the summer season and all the months are gone.

Eod100

muddypuppy wrote: »

If high case numbers was the actual reason for MHQ then places like Germany and Poland would already be in it.
It's a mix of that, variants, which state can we poke without getting bitten too much, randomness and also countries with too many irish citizen are out of the list because otherwise they would fill up the hotels too soon.

Well yeah its a combination. Guess difference in disease surveillance system between EU countries and non EU countries may play a factor too but not all non EU countries the same either. More down to resources really.

bucketybuck

rusty cole wrote: »

are you on crack?? seems positive to you.
If a person is being water boarded then two minutes of breath seems positive then does it? it's the end of the summer season and all the months are gone.

I find it crazy to see people with those attitudes.

"Its only 16 weeks, thats not so bad".

16 weeks, 4 months of our lives, dismissed off hand as unimportant. These are now just numbers to a lot of people, totally disconnected from the pesky fact that a lot of other people are actually suffering and for whom a continuance of this farce is actually really damaging.

It used to be a seriously big deal to lockdown for 2 weeks, remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve! Now people throw around months as if it is no time at all, because they have completely lost touch with the pesky fact that there are real people affected by all of this.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

I find it crazy to see people with those attitudes.

"Its only 16 weeks, thats not so bad".

16 weeks, 4 months of our lives, dismissed off hand as unimportant. These are now just numbers to a lot of people, totally disconnected from the pesky fact that a lot of other people are actually suffering and for whom a continuance of this farce is actually really damaging.

It used to be a seriously big deal to lockdown for 2 weeks, remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve! Now people throw around months as if it is no time at all, because they have completely lost touch with the pesky fact that there are real people affected by all of this.

Agreed. Too many people are completely comfortable with how things are now. I always thought that the concept of a ‘new normal’ was just conspiracy chat, but it’s becoming obvious that a large segment of the population are happy with their lot, and don’t care that others are struggling

scamalert

bucketybuck wrote: »

I find it crazy to see people with those attitudes.

"Its only 16 weeks, thats not so bad".

16 weeks, 4 months of our lives, dismissed off hand as unimportant. These are now just numbers to a lot of people, totally disconnected from the pesky fact that a lot of other people are actually suffering and for whom a continuance of this farce is actually really damaging.

It used to be a seriously big deal to lockdown for 2 weeks, remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve! Now people throw around months as if it is no time at all, because they have completely lost touch with the pesky fact that there are real people affected by all of this.

yeah some people actually do have that demented attitude where they see now 2-6 months as sure what tis time holdfirm tankeconomy staysafe.

a sure it's positive news that you're on the dole for only another 16 weeks mate!
There are folks out there in two bedroom apartments through no fault of their own (thank the banks) and they're trying to stay sane themselves whilst maybe entertain one child and feed a new born baby in the same room. All this whilst being out of work, having the land lord/Bank chase them for rent/mortgage
while they worry about the JOB they used to have and if it will ever open again.

16 weeks is nothing when you're a trust funder suckling on mammy teet typing on your apple mac in your Y fronts and hounds-tooth blazer, on Daddy warbucks green acres!

Psychedelic Hedgehog

rusty cole wrote: »

16 weeks is nothing when you're a trust funder suckling on mammy teet typing on your apple mac in your Y fronts and hounds-tooth blazer, on Daddy warbucks green acres!

(enters forum after a while away)

(quickly backs out again)

Westernyelp

rusty cole wrote:

16 weeks is nothing when you're a trust funder suckling on mammy teet typing on your apple mac in your Y fronts and hounds-tooth blazer, on Daddy warbucks green acres!

There's a lot more going on for you than the covid thing. Isn't there?

Psychedelic Hedgehog

Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »

(enters forum after a while away)

(quickly backs out again)

so let me get this straight, point of view is dependent on my ability to be here all the time? and if and when I post, I have to run it by you? wtf?
Did that touch a nerve with you?

Stheno

rusty cole wrote: »

EHHHHH??

They might think you've lost the plot?