Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Storm 10

My wife filled out the vaccine on line on Monday for the AZ jab and heard nothing since, her Sister and friend filled out theirs the same day and have already got vaccinated in Galway, any place we can contact to see what the hold up is.

is_that_so

Storm 10 wrote: »

My wife filled out the vaccine on line on Monday for the AZ jab and heard nothing since, her Sister and friend filled out theirs the same day and have already got vaccinated in Galway, any place we can contact to see what the hold up is.

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Golfman64

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Have a quick look there at the Independent and see who the journalist is and it'll be no surprise to you.

The very same one who's constantly trying to get a sound bite out of the media briefings.

Absolute gutter journalism from the Independent but would expect nothing less.

Of course cases will rise and maybe even significantly as we open up more fully to protect the economy. The difference being that many of the vulnerable are vaccinated. Cool, level heads required to not overreact to rising cases.

I had a chuckle at the CMO’s response to International travel saying the Green Cert will be given ‘consideration’. Sorry mate, it’s an EU law and the EU will give consideration to any request you make not to follow it.

Quantum Erasure

According to the Telegraph, the pandemic is over in Britain, with the disease at manageable endemic levels.

stephenjmcd

Storm 10 wrote: »

My wife filled out the vaccine on line on Monday for the AZ jab and heard nothing since, her Sister and friend filled out theirs the same day and have already got vaccinated in Galway, any place we can contact to see what the hold up is.

Are they all the same age etc ?

There's a few factors at play. My father is 65 and we signed up on Monday but we know it'll be a week or two maybe a little more before he heads for an appointment purely because there's a few age groups ahead of him.

Alot is down to the MVC and the demographic of the area too.

They might have more 68 year olds than 65 year olds for example so will take a little longer to do the 68 year olds. Whereas the next centre could have more 65 year olds so they'll get to that group quicker.

You can contact HSE Live also but it's only been a few days

JP100

blowitupref wrote: »

Most countries approach/aim was to avoid it.

Our infection rate has significantly reduced and from that we have hospital numbers at a very manageable level. It all puts us in a very good position as vaccines ramp up in May and June

We've been endlessly hearing about these ramps up that never really come to fruition since last January now at this stage.

JP100

Cork2021 wrote: »

The Independent, the Irish times front page doom and gloom once again! Holahan returns and now “reopening is on a knife edge!
and the Irish Times lead headline is AZ clots!

We’ll never get out of this is ****e with all the media peddling the worst case constantly and yet supposedly 60% are happier then they were before the lockdown!
What utter bull****

There's quite a number of people doing pretty well from lockdown and would happily let lockdown continue. That's what you're up against.

is_that_so

JP100 wrote: »

We've been endlessly hearing about these ramps up that never really come to fruition since last January now at this stage.

We have ramped up, now at about 150K shots a week. What's stopping us is supplies and the likes of AZ barely delivering any. April is only the start of it so hold onto that complaint until we get to the end of May!

Golfman64

is_that_so wrote: »

We have ramped up, now at about 150K shots a week. What's stopping us is supplies and the likes of AZ barely delivering any. April is only the start of it so hold onto that complaint until we get to the end of May!

And don't forget a slow, unnecessary body in the form of NIAC. They went against EMA advise on AZ and are dragging their feet on J&J while shots sits in storage unused. We should disband NIAC and take EMA advice.

We have destroyed our economy and many livelihoods over the last 14 months due to the circulation of a very dangerous virus. Yet, a 1 in 250,000 chance of developing a clot and 1 in 1,000,000 chance of death are considered enough to restrict the rollout of a vaccine which has shown a greater than 95% efficacy.

CalamariFritti

Cork2021 wrote: »

The Independent, the Irish times front page doom and gloom once again! Holahan returns and now “reopening is on a knife edge!
and the Irish Times lead headline is AZ clots!

We’ll never get out of this is ****e with all the media peddling the worst case constantly and yet supposedly 60% are happier then they were before the lockdown!
What utter bull****

The country is back on a knife-edge as a sharp increase in Covid infections raised fears of a cautious exit from lockdown.

These people have a lot to answer for. No responsibility no ethos just gimme scary headlines - show me the money. Some might actually call it 'fake news'. The mainstream media are driving this madness with rte and independent at the fore front. I'm so sick of this sh1t.

JP100

is_that_so wrote: »

We have ramped up, now at about 150K shots a week. What's stopping us is supplies and the likes of AZ barely delivering any. April is only the start of it so hold onto that complaint until we get to the end of May!

We've changed from being one of the best in the EU in terms of the vaccine rollout to being well down that list now. That is the reality.

is_that_so

Golfman64 wrote: »

And don't forget a slow, unnecessary body in the form of NIAC. They went against EMA advise on AZ and are dragging their feet on J&J while shots sits in storage unused. We should disband NIAC and take EMA advice.

We have destroyed our economy and many livelihoods over the last 14 months due to the circulation of a very dangerous virus. Yet, a 1 in 250,000 chance of developing a clot and 1 in 1,000,000 chance of death are considered enough to restrict the rollout of a vaccine which has shown a greater than 95% efficacy.

Actually all the EMA has said is that benefits outweigh the risks but they have left it up to local bodies to determine how to use them according to their needs and assessment. AZ is its own disaster and we only have 14K J&J rising to 40K by the end of next week.

kleiner feigling

Cork2021 wrote: »

The Independent, the Irish times front page doom and gloom once again! Holahan returns and now “reopening is on a knife edge!
and the Irish Times lead headline is AZ clots!

We’ll never get out of this is ****e with all the media peddling the worst case constantly and yet supposedly 60% are happier then they were before the lockdown!
What utter bull****

The media is laughable at this stage.
Surprised they have any hyperbole left in them.
Articles like this are hysterical, and shouldn't see the light of day.
The fact of the matter is that the extra "cases" are just extra positive tests, and unlikely to materialize into anything more than flu-like symptoms.
One would hope that vulnerable people at this stage will be vaccinated or taking good precautions to protect themselves.

Newsflash: teenagers get the flu smh

JP100

Golfman64 wrote: »

Absolute gutter journalism from the Independent but would expect nothing less.

Of course cases will rise and maybe even significantly as we open up more fully to protect the economy. The difference being that many of the vulnerable are vaccinated. Cool, level heads required to not overreact to rising cases.

I had a chuckle at the CMO’s response to International travel saying the Green Cert will be given ‘consideration’. Sorry mate, it’s an EU law and the EU will give consideration to any request you make not to follow it.

By the time we're reopening in any meaningful way we will be reopening less to protect the economy and more to salvage what remains of a lot of economic sectors.

is_that_so

JP100 wrote: »

We've changed from being one of the best in the EU in terms of the vaccine rollout to being well down that list now. That is the reality.

Well they had lots sitting in fridges doing nothing, for quite a while. They've just caught up and the collective picture is a lot better now.

Wolf359f

Golfman64 wrote: »

And don't forget a slow, unnecessary body in the form of NIAC. They went against EMA advise on AZ and are dragging their feet on J&J while shots sits in storage unused. We should disband NIAC and take EMA advice.

We have destroyed our economy and many livelihoods over the last 14 months due to the circulation of a very dangerous virus. Yet, a 1 in 250,000 chance of developing a clot and 1 in 1,000,000 chance of death are considered enough to restrict the rollout of a vaccine which has shown a greater than 95% efficacy.

You may want to research your figures. Updated UK data puts the risk of those dangerous clots at 1 in 125,000 chance, with some EU counties having seeing a higher incidence rate based on a lower age group vaccinated with AZ.

kleiner feigling

JP100 wrote: »

By the time we're reopening in any meaningful way we will be reopening less to protect the economy and more to salvage what remains of a lot of economic sectors.

100% agree.
We are way past damage control at this stage.
The damage is done, much of it irreversible.

To add a positive - ICU is under control and hospital numbers are way down.

JP100

JP100 wrote: »

We've been endlessly hearing about these ramps up that never really come to fruition since last January now at this stage.

Oh yeah, no ramp at all. Still running along where we were in January

seamus

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

According to the Telegraph, the pandemic is over in Britain, with the disease at manageable endemic levels.

It's such a British declaration. You'd laugh except that some people will lap it up.

prunudo

If the media (and public in general) paid more attention to the swabs they would see yesterday's case numbers are nothing to be worried about.
As I said yesterday, we have to accept numbers will stagnate or rise when we open up sections of society. Hospital numbers are declining, vaccinations are increasing, thats all that matters.

Edit: And also to add, they need to get rid of the 5 day average nonsense, sun-thurs will be much lower compared to tues-sat due to reduced testing and gp referrals at the weekend. It leads to big panic on certain days because the 5 day average has increased.

Wolf359f

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh yeah, no ramp at all. Still running along where we were in January

To reach their 80% target, we'll need to double the daily average until the end of June. That's close to 1% population sustained per day over 2+ months. I think Israel would be the only country that has managed that. Personally I can't see that happening, but would obviously love to be proved wrong!

JP100

is_that_so wrote: »

Well they had lots sitting in fridges doing nothing, for quite a while. They've just caught up and the collective picture is a lot better now.

They've caught up alright and completely passed us out now at this stage. Meanwhile, we are once again left sitting around waiting for NIAC to once again spend a week or two coming to a decision on something.

JP100

Wolf359f wrote: »

To reach their 80% target, we'll need to double the daily average until the end of June. That's close to 1% population sustained per day over 2+ months. I think Israel would be the only country that has managed that. Personally I can't see that happening, but would obviously love to be proved wrong!

Spot on.

is_that_so

JP100 wrote: »

They've caught up alright and completely passed us out now at this stage. Meanwhile, we are once again left sitting around waiting for NIAC to once again spend a week or two coming to a decision on something.

They said probably next week and we have very little J&J supply as it stands.

Widdensushi

prunudo wrote: »

If the media (and public in general) paid more attention to the swabs they would see yesterday's case numbers are nothing to be worried about.
As I said yesterday, we have to accept numbers will stagnate or rise when we open up sections of society. Hospital numbers are declining, vaccinations are increasing, thats all that matters.

The media are aware of that, but choose to frighten people who are not, it sells, gets more clicks than good news.

Lumen

JP100 wrote: »

They've caught up alright and completely passed us out now at this stage. Meanwhile, we are once again left sitting around waiting for NIAC to once again spend a week or two coming to a decision on something.

The delay is irritating but in practical terms it makes little difference. We've only got 14k doses of J&J in fridges and the delayed decision won't be holding up further deliveries.

Golfman64

Wolf359f wrote: »

You may want to research your figures. Updated UK data puts the risk of those dangerous clots at 1 in 125,000 chance, with some EU counties having seeing a higher incidence rate based on a lower age group vaccinated with AZ.

The risk of venous thromboembolism among healthy individuals for a flight of more than four hours is 1 in 6000......

Lumen

Wolf359f wrote: »

To reach their 80% target, we'll need to double the daily average until the end of June. That's close to 1% population sustained per day over 2+ months. I think Israel would be the only country that has managed that. Personally I can't see that happening, but would obviously love to be proved wrong!

80% of adult population. We're at about 33% already. So by my maths we have about 1.7m to do over 68 days, which is about 25k/day.

That's only 0.5% total population per day, although that doesn't factor in second doses.

I welcome maths checking!

Wolf359f

Wolf359f wrote: »

To reach their 80% target, we'll need to double the daily average until the end of June. That's close to 1% population sustained per day over 2+ months. I think Israel would be the only country that has managed that. Personally I can't see that happening, but would obviously love to be proved wrong!

Thats only 50k per day. Easily achieved mid 30s on a number of days with only a small portion of the MVC's in operation. We have the capacity, just need the supplies

Quantum Erasure

seamus wrote: »

It's such a British declaration. You'd laugh except that some people will lap it up.

It's from a new study by Oxford, the Office of National Statistics, and the Department of Health. 95% of over 50s in England have had the first dose at least, so its having desired effect