Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Wolf359f

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Any day now the government leaders will be riding in on horseback to hijack the press conferences and take credit for fixing this, even they can see it's all over.

I remember Nicola Sturgeon, being asked recently, with the elections coming up, would it not be a better idea to have the medical officer give the press conferences so it won't be political.

But no doubt we'll have FG saying they would have done things differently if they held the Taoiseach position this time around. I'm sure most will see through that bull****!

JP100

is_that_so wrote: »

And yet you're using old data to prove a dubious point. Are you accusing him of lying?

Here, I'll spell it out for you again. In the past 7 days, Ireland vaccinated 31% less people than the EU average. That is the reality and no spin whatsoever can deflect from that reality.

TheDoctor

Deleted User wrote: »

+1

There are some professional contortionists on this thread, desperately keen to justify NPHET's excessively cautious approach and the Irish government's mindless inertia. Better knock the Tories wherever possible seeing as the UK months ahead in their phased reopening. Such pettiness would be laughable if the situation we're in wasn't so serious.

May 17th, assuming the current UK roadmap continues as planned with the reopening of indoor hospitality, is going to be a very interesting day.

Jim_Hodge

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Maybe because they want to keep the figures in our favour? I don't know but, I'll be honest, it's not a priority for me.

It’s not really an either or. Everyone has there own priority. I’ve no interest in bars/nightclubs/retail etc. But if we all start saying this one thing doesn’t matter to us, then the game is gone.

It’s an indictment of our ultra conservative plans (or lack of). This time it’s the euros, in May it will be something else, in June it’ll be the GAA championships etc. We seem to have no ambition to improve lives for people. Because it doesn’t matter to one person doesn’t mean it’s not important in the grand scheme of things.

(Fwiw, I wouldn’t have wanted fans travelling in. But what’s the issue with 12,000 domestic fans either vaccinated or negative tested).

Ficheall

Deleted User wrote: »

But what’s the issue with 12,000 domestic fans either vaccinated or negative tested).

In theory that seems fair, but do you believe they could manage that though?
Plus you'd have the mybodymychoice and twotiersociety people objecting.

manofwisdom

County cases per day average over the last two weeks.

Dublin 166
Kildare 32
Donegal 29
Meath 21
Cork 15
Limerick 15
Galway 14
Tipperary 12
Offaly 12
Louth 10
Westmeath 9
Mayo 8
Laois 7
Wicklow 7
Waterford 6
Cavan 5
Longford 5
Wexford 4
Kerry 4
Clare 4
Roscommon 4
Monaghan 3
Carlow 3
Leitrim 3
Sligo 2
Kilkenny 2

TheDoctor

They aren’t big numbers!

Ten of Swords

JP100 wrote: »

Here, I'll spell it out for you again. In the past 7 days, Ireland vaccinated 31% less people than the EU average. That is the reality and no spin whatsoever can deflect from that reality.

You have posted this several times today, the point has been made and without a link to something reputable supporting it then it's just soapboxing in a fast moving thread, drop it and move on please

cameramonkey

Busy in the green and hour ago.


Could be worse I suppose, could be in a pub.

scamalert

cameramonkey wrote: »

Busy in the green and hour ago.

oh no people in groups no masks having fun, lies OP lies
Mad to think were coming onto second year and still living in defcon 5

stephenjmcd

cameramonkey wrote: »

Busy in the green and hour ago.

That's nothing compared to Grand Canal Dock. Great to see

People in their own groups, being respectful of others etc

podgeandrodge

cameramonkey wrote: »

Busy in the green and hour ago.


Could be worse I suppose, could be in a pub.

Well, it's outdoors, a lot better than inside as you say.

Not sure I'd be convinced that there is no risk there though, outdoors or not, it's a pretty busy gathering of groups. Wouldn't be 100% comfortable there for an afternoon myself tbh. Sure, they are keeping to separate groups, but there has to be some scope for all those people going back to families with a potential infection.

Down to risk outdoors sure, which is tiny they say. But is it tiny in general walking up the street, or having a beer with a mate in your garden, or sitting in one of those closely knit groups for the afternoon.

(Disclaimer - I am NOT giving out about them, just not convinced that it's risk free!).

PokeHerKing

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Well, it's outdoors, a lot better than inside as you say.

Not sure I'd be convinced that there is no risk there though, outdoors or not, it's a pretty busy gathering of groups. Wouldn't be 100% comfortable there for an afternoon myself tbh. Sure, they are keeping to separate groups, but there has to be some scope for all those people going back to families with a potential infection.

Down to risk outdoors sure, which is tiny they say. But is it tiny in general walking up the street, or having a beer with a mate in your garden, or sitting in one of those closely knit groups for the afternoon.

(Disclaimer - I am NOT giving out about them, just not convinced that it's risk free!).

Nothing is risk free though. The sooner people get round to that way of thinking the better. You could litterally choke to death everytime you eat something.

Lots of countries getting back to normality. Meanwhile in Ireland, we are sharing outrageous photos of some people sitting on the grass...

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lots of countries getting back to normality. Meanwhile in Ireland, we are sharing outrageous photos of some people sitting on the grass...

Was some of the thread deleted? I read this post and went looking for the outrage at the photo but I can’t seem to find it

pjohnson

manofwisdom wrote: »

County cases per day average over the last two weeks.

Dublin 166
Kildare 32
Donegal 29
Meath 21
Cork 15
Limerick 15
Galway 14
Tipperary 12
Offaly 12
Louth 10
Westmeath 9
Mayo 8
Laois 7
Wicklow 7
Waterford 6
Cavan 5
Longford 5
Wexford 4
Kerry 4
Clare 4
Roscommon 4
Monaghan 3
Carlow 3
Leitrim 3
Sligo 2
Kilkenny 2

Starting to seem like most counties outside of Dublin could be opened up again like last year.

podgeandrodge

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Nothing is risk free though. The sooner people get round to that way of thinking the better. You could litterally choke to death everytime you eat something.

Yeah, not disagreeing with you. Probably not good choice of words to say "risk free" - I really meant that I am not sure that it is very low risk. I'd be thinking, outside or not, that the gathering in that photo, if anyone there has covid, would lead to a couple of cases. But to be sure, I'm happy to see them all out and enjoying an element of normality.

bodhrandude

Salthill park was the same today, I'm glad some of the crowd is getting out and about, why wouldn't you in this gorgeous weather,

Jim_Hodge

Deleted User wrote: »

Lots of countries getting back to normality. Meanwhile in Ireland, we are sharing outrageous photos of some people sitting on the grass...

Nice try but only you have referred to it as outrageous.

odyssey06

Deleted User wrote: »

Lots of countries getting back to normality. Meanwhile in Ireland, we are sharing outrageous photos of some people sitting on the grass...

What about Germany, France, India, Brazil?

The countries getting back to normality are way ahead of us in % vaccinated.
It's reasonable enough to question why our % is lower, but until we hit a higher % to adopt the same course as those countries would be reckless endangerment.

funnydoggy

The docks packed tonight in Cork. Queues for takeaway pints out of Goldbergs and the Idle Hour are both really long.

Lovely night. Bit chilly and windy but there was a great buzz and it was very safe. Kinda tipsy myself ðŸ˜

Vicxas

With the EMA saying AZ should be used for all ages, do we think NIAC will review their recommendation?

brickster69

Vicxas wrote: »

With the EMA saying AZ should be used for all ages, do we think NIAC will review their recommendation?

EMA have said from day 1 it was safe for all ages. Should of gone with that from the start and protected those that were most likely to die instead of swapping and changing every week.

Ficheall

Ten of Swords wrote: »

You have posted this several times today, the point has been made and without a link to something reputable supporting it then it's just soapboxing in a fast moving thread, drop it and move on please

In case anyone else is curious, here are our new vaccines per capita relative to the rest of the EU.

branie2

RIP, the one person who died

Over 30% positivity rate in India - and over 330,000 new cases.

And that's with limited testing.

Seems as if India is in for a rough ride for a long time to come.

Jim_Hodge

JP100 wrote: »

No I haven't, I have discussed in the thread as I am well entitled to do on here. Here too is the link to the data, so do tell me where is this soap boxing that you talk about.

From the former tabloid hack, turned lobbyist, who had a controversial end to his involvement with FG?

I'll stick to the HSE figures thanks.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why bother posting a pic of people sitting on the grass at all? And why bother saying “Could be worse, could be in the pub”.

It was clearly posted for a reason. And you know what that reason is.

In the minds of the rabid open everything immediately cabal anything that does not immediately align with the view is outrage or lockdown larry or curtain twitcher, even if it is just a picture posted without comment

JP100

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

From the former tabloid hack, turned lobbyist, who had a controversial end to his involvement with FG?

I'll stick to the HSE figures thanks.

What are you talking about, the HSE figures show that we've gone from being one of the best in the EU in terms of the vaccine rollout to being well down that list now. That is common knowledge and the HSE figures back up what I'm saying, so thank you for highlighting that. Our vaccine rollout programme has been painfully slow and that's just become more and more apparent with every passing week.

Batattackrat

JP100 wrote: »

What are you talking about, the HSE figures show that we've gone from being one of the best in the EU in terms of the vaccine rollout to being well down that list now. That is common knowledge and the HSE figures back up what I'm saying, so thank you for highlighting that. Our vaccine rollout programme has been painfully slow and that's just become more and more apparent with each passing week.

You have to take our population into account which I'm not sure you getting.

Countries like Germany has a population of 83 million and as a result have a much higher level of vunerable people who need it more than we do.

I'd be happy if our vacination numbers dropped if more people over 75 or with underlying illness get it in another country, especially in Covid ridden areas.

We are getting our vacinnes and a gradual reopen plan is been announced next week. Calm down