Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

TheDoctor

Lucas Hood wrote: »

5 additional deaths - 461 new cases.

Looks like a backlog building last two days

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

Listening to Newstalk earlier and the news headline was "Record number of people vaccinated in one day! 41000 people vaccinated yesterday!"

Sounds good. Then you remember that in January the UK were able to do half a million vaccines a day and realise that as usual it's just paddy patting himself on the back for doing nothing special.

Just imagine where we could be if we had competent leadership.

That is more per capita than your example. The equivalent to 500k there would be around 37k.

gozunda

robbiezero wrote: »

Who knows what could happen if we tried stunts like letting people collect stuff in shops or wing it by letting people meet in their gardens. We would be like India inside a week without a doubt

Another amazing collection of things which were never said ....

KrustyUCC

So far this week Sat 24 - Sun 18th 3215 positive swabs 115,541 tests

Sat 17th - Sun 11th 2781 positive swabs 101,261 tests

So 434 more positive swabs but 14,280 more tests

15.60% more positive swabs

14.10% more tests

Always_Running

This week compared to last week.

340 more cases and 429 more positive swabs from 13,386 extra tests carried out

12 fewer reported deaths (55 v 43)
21 fewer in hospital
4 fewer in ICU
161,566 more vaccines administered

eagle eye

Vicxas wrote:

Stable despite schools being back, and construction open

Takes 10 days minimum for changes to show up in the numbers. Hopefully they don't go back up.

blackcard

Where can you get the county figures on a Saturday or a Sunday?

Pandiculation

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Great to see the Gards tweeting about how they'll be patrolling outdoor beauty spots this sunny weekend. Good to know that the best way of avoiding them would be to meet people indoors.

Yeah it’s illogical. Saw them clearing extremely well socially distanced people sitting a quayside on an extremely breezy day and in Cork which has extremely low case numbers. Cannot see how this is high risk behaviour. It makes no sense.

Some of this stuff is just becoming seriously lacking in any common sense.

Faugheen

robbiezero wrote: »

Who knows what could happen if we tried stunts like letting people collect stuff in shops or wing it by letting people meet in their gardens. We would be like India inside a week without a doubt

You have a real desire to attribute statements that were never said.

Scare-mongering at it's finest, here.

"A decision is due on the J&J vaccine at some stage next week". Of course it is...not today, tomorrow or on Monday. Where is the urgency? Let's dawdle and keep people locked away for longer.

eagle eye

Pandiculation wrote:

Yeah it’s illogical. Saw them clearing extremely well socially distanced people sitting a quayside on an extremely breezy day and in Cork which has extremely low case numbers. Cannot see how this is high risk behaviour. It makes no sense.

Some of this stuff is just becoming seriously lacking in any common sense.

It's not about sensible people with a bit of cop on who know how to act, it's about protecting everybody from those who don't know how to act.
It's the reason we have laws about drink driving for example.

castletownman

I have deleted my prior comments, as in hindsight they were inappropriate and needless. I apologise for causing any offence, and didn't mean to strike a nerve.

On a completely more positive note, it's great to see people milling about outdoors in the good weather. Coupled with the record number of vaccines being administered yesterday, it definitely isn't as dark as it felt in January-February.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

"A decision is due on the J&J vaccine at some stage next week". Of course it is...not today, tomorrow or on Monday. Where is the urgency? Let's dawdle and keep people locked away for longer.

Well all I can tell you about J and J is that those brothers don't fill me with confidence. I'm not surprised that there's question marks over their vaccine.

KrustyUCC

Deleted User wrote: »

"A decision is due on the J&J vaccine at some stage next week". Of course it is...not today, tomorrow or on Monday. Where is the urgency? Let's dawdle and keep people locked away for longer.

That's unbelievable

We have 14,000 J&J in storage

That's 14,000 extra people we could have vaccinated in a week

Pathetically slow from NIAC

Not like the entire country is waiting on vaccination program when it's linked to easing of restriction

Monday should be long enough for them to make decisions

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Well all I can tell you about J and J is that those brothers don't fill me with confidence. I'm not surprised that there's question marks over their vaccine.

I take it you got a cotton bud stuck in your ear at some stage?

gozunda

Vicxas wrote: »

Stable despite schools being back, and construction open

Small blip to the numbers. Outbreak of 85 on the Intel construction site reported Friday (was 70) Not sure do they get added as an outbreak or with regular case numbers?

Pandiculation

Pandiculation wrote: »

Yeah it’s illogical. Saw them clearing extremely well socially distanced people sitting a quayside on an extremely breezy day and in Cork which has extremely low case numbers. Cannot see how this is high risk behaviour. It makes no sense.

Some of this stuff is just becoming seriously lacking in any common sense.

On what basis can they tell socially distanced people to move? We are allowed to meet another household outside. I’d be politely reminding them of the Covid rules and pointing out the distance between me and the next group

Pandiculation

I guess it’s just back to never going outside again mode.

Honestly, I will be emigrating after this. I know things are bad in a lot of places but I’m finding the total lack of any kind of serious pathway towards sensible levels of access here are beyond ridiculous.

If you look at different regions of Ireland for example the case numbers in Cork and Kerry for example (and there are others) are extremely low, yet you can’t even have a socially distant cup of coffee outside a cafe on an sunny and breezy day.

The whole thing is getting to the stage the government will lose the room.

The vast majority of people are being extremely cautious and sensible, but the rule enforcement is totally arbitrary and illogical.

I know older people who literally have run out of clothes. I’m remote supporting 2 elderly people at the moment trying to do internet clothes shopping via FaceTime. It took nearly 2 hours to buy a pair of shoes for one of them as she can’t understand the Internet and I have to show her images of every item using my phone and a laptop screen.

How she can’t just get appointment based or socially distant shopping is beyond me.

The lockdowns were useful but they should be limited and surgical in their approach. This broad just close down everything for months approach has just gone far too far.

The comparisons with enforcement of drink driving laws are a bit far fetched tbh. It would be more like rolling out prohibition to prevent car crashes caused by drunk drivers.

I’m not anti lockdown at all, but I would appreciate some logic, nuance and sanity in how it’s being used. That isn’t what we’re being presented with anymore.

It’s a useful tool, but you don’t use a sledge hammer to solve every problem.

RGS

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That's unbelievable

We have 14,000 J&J in storage

That's 14,000 extra people we could have vaccinated in a week

Pathetically slow from NIAC

Not like the entire country is waiting on vaccination program when it's linked to easing of restriction

Monday should be long enough for them to make decisions

NIAC are acting like the would review any new medication that is only needed by a few people. They cant comprehendthat their decision has the potential to effect the re opening of the country.

Donnelly should be putting a rocket up their well renumerated backsides.

Pandiculation

Pandiculation wrote: »

I guess it’s just back to never going outside again mode.

Honestly, I will be emigrating after this. I know things are bad in a lot of places but I’m finding the total lack of any kind of serious pathway towards sensible levels of access here are beyond ridiculous.

If you look at different regions of Ireland for example the case numbers in Cork and Kerry for example (and there are others) are extremely low, yet you can’t even have a socially distant cup of coffee outside a cafe on an sunny and breezy day.

The whole thing is getting to the stage the government will lose the room.

The vast majority of people are being extremely cautious and sensible, but the rule enforcement is totally arbitrary and illogical.

I know older people who literally have run out of clothes. I’m remote supporting 2 elderly people at the moment trying to do internet clothes shopping via FaceTime. It took nearly 2 hours to buy a pair of shoes for one of them as she can’t understand the Internet and I have to show her images of every item using my phone and a laptop screen.

How she can’t just get appointment based or socially distant shopping is beyond me.

The lockdowns were useful but they should be limited and surgical in their approach. This broad just close down everything for months approach has just gone far too far.

The comparisons with enforcement of drink driving laws are a bit far fetched tbh.

While I don’t believe that the Gardai should be moving people on, at least masks are not mandatory outside and nor is there a curfew. Sure, the UK is pretty relaxed but that’s because 60% of the adult population is vaccinated

That chat about people emigrating after this is laughable tbh.

Ficheall

Pandiculation wrote: »

yet you can’t even have a socially distant cup of coffee outside a cafe on an sunny and breezy day.

Can you not? :-/

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

I take it you got a cotton bud stuck in your ear at some stage?

Lol, it's based on everything they've ever been involved in.

Pandiculation

Quite honestly, I am leaving. It’s not “chat”. My view of this place has completely changed since December. I don’t think what’s happened here has been anything remotely approaching a competent response to the crisis. My quality of life has gone though the floor since December and I’ve been suffering from severe depression as a result.

I don’t want to live here anymore. That’s not “chat”.
I’m gone as soon as the restrictions lift and I’ve job opportunities elsewhere.

Pandiculation

Pandiculation wrote: »

Quite honestly, I am leaving. It’s not “chat”. My view of this place has completely changed since December. I don’t think what’s happened here has been anything remotely approaching a competent response to the crisis. My quality of life has gone though the floor since December and I’ve been suffering from severe depression as a result.

I don’t want to live here anymore. That’s not “chat”.
I’m gone as soon as the restrictions lift and I’ve job opportunities elsewhere.

Sorry you are having a hard time but, out of interest, where is better? Where would your quality of life not have gone through the floor?

Pandiculation

Ficheall wrote: »

Can you not? :-/

Nope you can’t. There is no outdoor dining and hasn’t been for months - as I’m sure you well know.

All you can do is take a coffee away and walk aimlessly in circles or lean on a wall somewhere.

Anytime I have eaten outside the house, it’s been sitting on my own in the car for the last number of months.

Marty Bird

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I take it you got a cotton bud stuck in your ear at some stage?

I’m going to say it was the baby shampoo before the no more tears one.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Lol, it's based on everything they've ever been involved in.

Everything?

https://www.drugreport.com/brands-owned-by-johnson-and-johnson/

Pandiculation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sorry you are having a hard time but, out of interest, where is better? Where would your quality of life not have gone through the floor?

Many, many places on the continent.
I can deal with life if I can actually do even 5% of the normal things.

A lot of places have compulsory masks, curfews and other measures but they have not generally just shut down absolutely everything and expected you to sit in the garden for 4+ months. Many places have outdoor dining in limited ways. Most still have a lot more access to shopping and so on.

The measures here have been extremely draconian and seem to just assume everyone’s sitting at home with 2.5 kids, a cat and a dog. That isn’t the reality for everyone and I’ve just come to the conclusion that if you don’t have a house in the suburbs, you’re just not really considered in policy making here. It’s not just the pandemic. It’s in most areas of life.

So I might just be better off living back on the continent again where that kind of lifestyle is more normal.

That’s my assessment of it anyway and the pandemic has just driven the points home to me.

Polar101

Pandiculation wrote: »

Nope you can’t. There is no outdoor dining and hasn’t been for months - as I’m sure you well know.

Many places have opened for takeaway (food/drink) recently, including pubs and cafes. Now that the weather is good, it looks pretty "normal" outside with all the people gathering outside having drinks and food.

Ficheall

Pandiculation wrote: »

Nope you can’t. There is no outdoor dining and hasn’t been for months - as I’m sure you well know.

All you can do is take a coffee away and walk aimlessly in circles or lean on a wall somewhere.

Anytime I have eaten outside the house, it’s been sitting on my own in the car for the last number of months.

Oh, I was just thinking of getting a coffee to take away, as opposed to sitting outdoors in the cafe's premises. Gotcha, fair enough.

I've not eaten anything not home-prepared in about fourteen months. And while the option would be nice, I have to admit it's been good for my pocket and maybe my health. Am also fortunate enough to have lovely picnic spots within walking distance.