Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

eagle eye

podgeandrodge wrote:

Did your brother tell you something that we should all know about on this? Or is it something you yourself have found out? It's a covid thread, feel free to let us all know why we shouldn't take the J&J vaccine!

I never said you shouldn't take any vaccine, I said I have little faith in the owners.
And it's based on their history across a multitude of business ventures.
They are the third generation of the family which owns J and J.

Beasty

A user posted about a tragic motoring incident in Wexford a couple of weeks ago. They subsequently deleted their post when they realised how inappropriate their comments were. I have also deleted all the follow-up posts quoting that initial post

giveitholly

eagle eye wrote: »

I never said you shouldn't take any vaccine, I said I have little faith in the owners.
And it's based on their history across a multitude of business ventures.
They are the third generation of the family which owns J and J.

So you won't take the AZ vaccine or the J&J vaccine,If everyone had your attitude we would never get out of this pandemic. You want hospitality closed indefinitely because you were a binge drinker and now can't fathom how some people can go to a pub/restaurant for a few drinks to meet friends and family and relax. You wanted schools closed no matter what before christmas until a phone call from your brother told you that ivermection was the cure to all this and you were sending your kids back to school the next day. This pandemic has really been an eye opener to some people's attitudes in this country

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

I never said you shouldn't take any vaccine, I said I have little faith in the owners.
And it's based on their history across a multitude of business ventures.
They are the third generation of the family which owns J and J.

I think you may want to look up the ownership and management structure of j&j. There is no third generation family either in the lager shareholders or executive structure of the company

Sweet.Science

I see some people's first thought when seeing others socialising outdoors is to take a video and share it online

Such losers

Hulk Hands

bodhrandude wrote: »

It looked like the youth were celebrating their rag week in Salthill beach today, gorgeous weather and all that, but I wouldn't like to be the guards tasked to clear that. I just thought they were too tightly packed together and when I took the clip the party was just getting started. It got more mental later on where they were all just piling on top of each other to the beats. I know though, its hard not to let go in such lovely sunshine.

I never thought that I'd see the like. What next? Somebody will be murdered, and then where are we? Drive by shootings in the night, it'll be like Boys in the Hood. And then they'll have hoes selling their wares in the middle of the street and the pimps will be using crack cocaine to keep the whores under control '--I'm going home now Father to lock meself in the basement til they catch that fella. Good-bye to ye father.

bodhrandude

Someone else posted this one. I wasn't actually complaining about it, its nice to see a bit of life outdoors but they were away overcrowded in that section of the beach.

https://twitter.com/endacunningham/status/1386030971791740929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1386030971791740929%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2058059988page%3D120

NH2013

Pandiculation wrote: »

They also seemed to have assumed that all irish - continental travel is for holiday making. The reality is many Irish households have continental European and much further afield family. Ireland’s far more diverse and interconnected than it was a few decades ago.

I do feel very sorry every time I keep hearing the "No international travel this summer" line trotted out for all those not from here, or who are from here but work or live abroad. All those people missing weddings and funerals, missing trips home to see family and siblings, aunts and uncles, grandparents etc for the past 18 months, and now the line keeps being trotted out despite the fact by the end of June everyone will have been offered at least their first vaccine.

It's a real smack in the face to people living and working here, or Irish living and working abroad that there's no plan to allow them to see their families again, even when vaccinated. They deserve at least a plan. While I know we couldn't do it up to now, we should have a plan in place as to when it will be allowed, people can't go years on end without seeing family abroad.

Everyone deserves a plan tbf, while I totally get that we can't do everything now, we do know from Israel that once vaccinated you can open everything up and cases will still continue to go down. With that knowledge in mind the government need to announce a plan based on vaccinations, X open by 40% of population vaccinated, Y open by 55% vaccination, Z by 70% vaccination etc, and we know now pretty much when that should be within a week or two.

We deserve a plan, not constant messaging that we can't do things as its not safe, 99% of people know that, but they want to be told at what date can we expect to do things again. When can we expect to see family again, when can we visit relatives abroad or have them visit us.

Chris_5339762

bodhrandude wrote: »

Someone else posted this one. I wasn't actually complaining about it, its nice to see a bit of life outdoors but they were away overcrowded in that section of the beach.

What we'll probably find is that few of those people end up with COVID, despite the raucousness. What we will find though is that video on the RTE website, or at least in several papers, and curtain twitching aplenty.


The amount of sunburn that day in Galway will generate though, will be staggering.

arccosh

fine day for pints in the UK today

eagle eye

giveitholly wrote:

So you won't take the AZ vaccine or the J&J vaccine,If everyone had your attitude we would never get out of this pandemic. You want hospitality closed indefinitely because you were a binge drinker and now can't fathom how some people can go to a pub/restaurant for a few drinks to meet friends and family and relax. You wanted schools closed no matter what before christmas until a phone call from your brother told you that ivermection was the cure to all this and you were sending your kids back to school the next day. This pandemic has really been an eye opener to some people's attitudes in this country

It's amazing the amount of assumptions you put down there as certain facts and how you've moved up things I said.

harr

It’s time to open up and at least have some control, can you really blame young people for wanting to enjoy life.
Huge crowds in all the parks in Dublin today as well.
Surely the guards should have some say because at the end of the day they are ones left with the impossible job of policing all this ..
The lock down is starting to have the opposite affect now and driving people to party in larger groups .
Surely the government can see this ... open up and have some control....

Jim_Hodge

eagle eye wrote: »

It's amazing the amount of assumptions you put down there as certain facts and how you've moved up things I said.

You've got to admit there's a far bit of truth behind it. The schools issue and the wonder cure claim aren't far off my recollections either.

giveitholly

eagle eye wrote: »

It's amazing the amount of assumptions you put down there as certain facts and how you've moved up things I said.

Ok,what did I get wrong?

Ficheall

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

What we'll probably find is that few of those people end up with COVID

And some people are fine with a few of these people catching covid..

blowitupref

As of 8pm tonight

In hospital 163 (decrease of 1)
In ICU 46 (decrease of 2)

Jim_Hodge

Ficheall wrote: »

And some people are fine with a few of these people catching covid..

Not A few, just few.

I read it that way initially as well. It changes the whole tone.

PTH2009

hard to believe it's well over a year into this

eagle eye

Jim_Hodge wrote:

You've got to admit there's a far bit of truth behind it. The schools issue and the wonder cure claim aren't far off my recollections either.

There are truths but there's things out together and assumptions made.

giveitholly wrote:

Ok,what did I get wrong?

Lots.

lukas8888

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You've got to admit there's a far bit of truth behind it. The schools issue and the wonder cure claim aren't far off my recollections either.

Plus no to Astra, now no Johnson.

saabsaab

PTH2009 wrote: »

hard to believe it's well over a year into this

This time next year?

Ficheall

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Not A few, just few.

I read it that way initially as well. It changes the whole tone.

No, I did read it as "few" initially. The tone does change, yes, but not what is expected to happen.
That is, some people would say:

"Here's a gathering, a small number of them might catch covid; that's okay."
Other people might disagree that it's okay.

daydorunrun

Ficheall wrote: »

And some people are fine with a few of these people catching covid..

Everyone should be fine with that- it was different before when the risk of infection being brought home to nanny and grandpa was high- they are vaccinated now though, time for young people to be allowed to get back to the basics of growing up.

mightyreds

saabsaab wrote: »

This time next year?

This time next year rodney we'll get a pint in the local.

WoollyRedHat

I think this weekend is going to have to be a turning point in terms of how we manage our response to this pandemic, people are fed up.

I listened to the radio this morning on RTE and one of the governmental politicians emphasized that you could
still only meet with only one more household and that we still need to be cautious and it's just another couple of weeks, which is now a parody phrase. The interviewer reminded them that people are meeting up outside en mass, with the one household rule being completely ignored but they kept on script, and ignoring reality.

A lot of people are bored of the script and actively ignoring it, time to get real, we need to adapt and be progressive with our approach or things will go south, new strategy is desperately needed.

Ficheall

daydorunrun wrote: »

Everyone should be fine with that- it was different before when the risk of infection being brought home to nanny and grandpa was high- they are vaccinated now though, time for young people to be allowed to get back to the basics of growing up.

I agree the risk is lower now, but they're not even half-way through vaccinating people in their sixties, which is still old enough that they definitely don't want to get it.

eagle eye

WoollyRedHat wrote:

A lot of people are bored of the script and actively ignoring it, time to get real, we need to adapt and be progressive with our approach or things will go south, new strategy is desperately needed.

How many cases average did we have for the week.before we relaxed restrictions before Christmas?

Lumen

Ficheall wrote: »

I agree the risk is lower now, but they're not even half-way through vaccinating people in their sixties, which is still old enough that they definitely don't want to get it.

Not only that, but the largest age category admitted to ICU in the last two weeks is 45-54, although the numbers across all age groups are small.

Source: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20210422_WEB.pdf

WoollyRedHat

eagle eye wrote: »

How many cases average did we have for the week.before we relaxed restrictions before Christmas?

I'm not proposing indoor activities to resume and personally I think that a government that allowed the ****show that was a meaningful Christmas to happen, that are now trying to lecture people to be safe, are morally bankrupt.

If they allow outdoor socialising to commence, in a coordinated way, we might have a chance, otherwise you are pursuing a prohibitionist policy and history has taught us that doesn't work, it has the opposite effect.

We need pragmatism.

PTH2009

saabsaab wrote: »

This time next year?

we'll be millionaires