Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Jim_Hodge

Polar101 wrote: »

I don't know, I'd be pretty annoyed to pay €2500 for two small rooms - not that I'd expect sympathy, but maybe I'd expect something better for the money.

$3000 each room in Australia.

It's the cost of those rooms in a Crown Plaza.

rodders999

Polar101 wrote: »

I don't know, I'd be pretty annoyed to pay €2500 for two small rooms - not that I'd expect sympathy, but maybe I'd expect something better for the money.

Accommodation for 5 plus all meals included for 12 days, that’s the going rate I guess. They could always have chosen not to have brought their family half way around the world during a global pandemic I suppose.....

CalamariFritti

What I dont understand is why you have to do this quarantine nonsense when you had a negative test. Is it just meant to be another (overzealous) deterrent?

MerlinSouthDub

Really encouraging swab numbers today. Looking like we have stabilised and possibly going down slightly again.

We are in a really good position relative to most of Europe right now. Our lower infection rates gives us a bit more flexibility and hopefully we make some use of it in easing measures. NPHET need to change their tone radically. I was struck by Ronan Glynn saying he was sick listening to himself saying the same things. Well, maybe it's time to say different things. How about actually encouraging people to meet their friends and family, in small groups and strictly outdoors. Instead of telling us not to do things, tell us what we can do, and turn it into a positive.

NH2013

CalamariFritti wrote: »

What I dont understand is why you have to do this quarantine nonsense when you had a negative test. Is it just meant to be another (overzealous) deterrent?

Indeed, in this case I find that her excuse for travel is quite reasonable, starting a new job, she's tested negative therefore why should she have to pay for quarantine, if she'd transferred via London to Belfast then this wouldn't have been an issue, she'd just have walked out the front door of the airport then on her way home to restrict movements for 14 days.

She's just come from a country where the incidence of COVID is next to zero, she's tested negative for COVID, it feels like overkill in my mind. Whatever about people coming from Brazil or SA, this just seems badly thought through.

Ger Roe

CalamariFritti wrote: »

What I dont understand is why you have to do this quarantine nonsense when you had a negative test. Is it just meant to be another (overzealous) deterrent?

Presumably because you could still be a carrier and bring a strong variant into the country?

TheDoctor

Wolf359f wrote: »

7 Day Average of Swabs:
27/03: 604 +10.6%
20/03: 546 +2%
13/03: 535 -4%
06/03: 557

Today is also the first day in a nearly a week that the 7 day average of swabs has dropped.

I don't follow the swab data as much as the hospital data.

Open to correction but most of the increase in the last 2 weeks seems to be due to additional testing rather than an actual virus spread increase.

The apocalypse that was called 3 or so weeks ago doesn't seem to have kicked off.

NH2013

Ger Roe wrote: »

Presumably because you could still be a carrier and bring a strong variant into the country?

I understand that, but she's come from a country with next to no COVID, spent 45 minutes going through Dubai, and because of that she has to quarantine for 12 days, it just feels like overkill when we have close to 500-600 cases a day going on here.

Why don't any airport workers that are in contact with the crew of the emirates flights have to Quarantine for 12 days every time after they work with those staff? I mean if that's the argument we're going for then it really just comes across as a bit disproportionate and more for image than for actual effectiveness.

CalamariFritti

Ger Roe wrote: »

Presumably because you could still be a carrier and bring a strong variant into the country?

Presumably.

So after a negative test what makes you presume that exactly?

I mean we were told this PCR test can detect/ampify covid so you can detect covid on the arse of a fly who had it three years ago.

Again, what is the point of this quarantine if you test negative?

And please, to be sure to be sure is not a valid answer.

Just like the masks this quarantine thing smells like something our dear leaders read off the twitter tea leaves and nothing else.

Tredstone.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

What I dont understand is why you have to do this quarantine nonsense when you had a negative test. Is it just meant to be another (overzealous) deterrent?

I assumed it was a deterrent all along

I mean realistically they can't have value for money quarantine the numbers availing then would be too high

CIARAN_BOYLE

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Presumably.

So after a negative test what makes you presume that exactly?

Because a negative test doesn't detect a presymtomatic case.

Same reason close contacts get 2 tests.

CalamariFritti

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Because a negative test doesn't detect a presymtomatic case.

Same reason close contacts get 2 tests.

Right so, do 2 tests then.

manofwisdom

Last seven days

119,565 tests, 7 day average in positive swabs 604 and the weekly positivity rate of 3.5%

Previous seven days

94,394 tests, 7 day average in positive swabs 546 and the weekly positivity rate of 4%

Wolf359f

TheDoctor wrote: »

I don't follow the swab data as much as the hospital data.

Open to correction but most of the increase in the last 2 weeks seems to be due to additional testing rather than an actual virus spread increase.

The apocalypse that was called 3 or so weeks ago doesn't seem to have kicked off.

It does seem that way, with the amount of extra testing, it hasn't found that many more additional cases.
If the virus was spreading out in the community you would expect extra testing to be finding alot more cases.
Which ties into not seeing the same increase in hospital admissions. In fact the 7 day average admissions has been continuously dropping (I know vacations have an impact)

Wolf359f

Wolf359f wrote: »

It does seem that way, with the amount of extra testing, it hasn't found that many more additional cases.
If the virus was spreading out in the community you would expect extra testing to be finding alot more cases.
Which ties into not seeing the same increase in hospital admissions. In fact the 7 day average admissions has been continuously dropping (I know vacations have an impact)

And yet, according to NPHET, things are “volatile”!!!

ninebeanrows

rodders999 wrote: »

Life has been pretty good in Perth for the past 12 months, as close to living “normally” as you will get anywhere on the planet so excuse me if my heart doesn’t bleed for them because their hotel experience isn’t up to Disney World standards.

They’ve misread the room badly if they think they will receive much public sympathy by running to the press moaning about the accommodation being a bit cramped for binging on Netflix over the next 12 days.

After the year we’ve all just endured and are still enduring to come here after pretty much living a restriction free life in Australia throughout Covid and then start moaning after 24 hours because they’re stuck in a hotel for a few days....suck it up!

Yeah, the mood of the nation seems to be that because we are and have been miserable, everybody else should be as well... and everybody should accept being rode over by draconian government policy...

What a miserable bunch we have turned into to fail to empathize with a family in a situation like this and not use it as a wake up call for what we have allowed happen in this country.

The complete erosion of our rights and freedoms and barely a whimper about it, just to blame others and vilify.

External Association

Positivity dropping amazingly well from one day last week at around 4.6% to the low 3%s. today.

Remarkably quick drop.

Russman

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Right so, do 2 tests then.

Where does she stay for the 7 days between tests ?

Wolf359f

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And yet, according to NPHET, things are “volatile”!!!

Well they know more. They know the positivity rate per each county/age group etc... A whole heap of data.
But if we had a week of 20 daily cases, they would also say it's volatile.... And would be an accurate statement.
All indicators do look decent, with the exception of new cases, which I believe they have said may be a result of more testing.

Benimar

2 deaths

624 cases

rodders999

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Yeah, the mood of the nation seems to be that because we are and have been miserable, everybody else should be as well... and everybody should accept being rode over by draconian government policy...

What a miserable bunch we have turned into to fail to empathize with a family in a situation like this and not use it as a wake up call for what we have allowed happen in this country.


The complete erosion of our rights and freedoms and barely a whimper about it, just to blame others and vilify.

The government in the country they’ve just come from also implemented this “draconian policy” at the outset allowing its citizens to live restriction free lives during pretty much the entirety of this pandemic.

I’m pretty sure the people living their best lives socialising and visiting family and friends over there think giving up some rights and freedoms (aka watching Netflix and eating pizza in a hotel for a fortnight) is a small price to pay when compared to the way we’ve been living or should I say existing this past 12 months.

DellyBelly

Benimar wrote: »

2 deaths

624 cases

Not good at all..

Str8outtaWuhan

are that family of 5 paying €1,875 each for hotel or thats for the whole lot of them?

Deeper Blue

DellyBelly wrote: »

Not good at all..

You always say that ffs cop on

CIARAN_BOYLE

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Right so, do 2 tests then.

What should we do between the two tests? Let them go home? Or put them in a hotel and quarantine them?

I do think quarantine is a powerful tool and should have been used a lot more throughout this whole thing.

Travellers into the country. Cases without an option to to self isolate in the household.

Gael23

Hard to put a positive spin on those figures

giveitholly

DellyBelly wrote: »

Not good at all..

Not bad at all....

CIARAN_BOYLE

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

are that family of 5 paying €1,875 each for hotel or thats for the whole lot of them?

There's a reduced rate for extra people using the same rooms. That family has two rooms.

I'm going to guess around €4,000-5,000.

TheDoctor

Gael23 wrote: »

Hard to put a positive spin on those figures

Number of deaths remaining nice and low.

ICU numbers have fallen again today.

Easy

prunudo

Cases and swabs seem fairly close the last few days, don't think there is any backlog to surprise(scare) us with and to correspond with the announcement midweek.