Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

covidrelease

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m in Spain now. Flew there from Ireland. About a month ago.

As for the UK variant, why don’t you go look at the UK numbers right now. In fact, for the last month. Increased transmissibility doesn’t seem to be hitting them that hard!

And as for your posting of a couple of links to show some supposed hard policing.....one is a YEAR old, and the police got in a ton of trouble for the other!! Can’t believe you actually posted them! I’ve spent most of lockdown, and since Xmas, between the UK and Ireland. I am telling you that there are no roadblocks in the UK like in Ireland. Policing of a supposed ‘stay at home’ order is nonexistent. You suggested the other day that benches are taped off.....that is just a fabrication! They were taped in lockdown one last year. Now everyone is out and about in groups, picnicking, drinking. Crowds of cyclists heading to the Surrey hills from London for long weekend morning bike rides. I have a house in SW London and have done this myself.

You are trying to portray some image of the UK to people on this forum that is completely false. I am not sure why, TBH. But needless to say, the restrictions in Ireland are far harsher, and more tightly policed, than in the Uk

There are no travel restrictions at all in Wales.

pc7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Why are Irish hospitalisation stats much, much lower then?

Genuinely curious

Would obesity be the issue?

gozunda

covidrelease wrote: »

Is there though?

Really? You believe the UK government made it all up?

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

paddyisreal

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Or, Michael and the New Variants, as they became after an early acrimonious split.

Lol

Jim_Hodge

covidrelease wrote: »

There are no travel restrictions at all in Wales.

Only as of today. Wales went into lockdown on 20 December,

ShineOn7

New cases: 604
Denotified cases: 0
Total cases: 234,541
New deaths: 13
Denotified deaths: 0
Total deaths: 4,666

Of the 13 mortalaties reported today

• 12 occurred in March
• 1 under investigation
• Median age: 77
• Age range: 51-83

Of the 604 cases notified today

• Male: 299
• Female: 298
• Under 45 years old: 465 (77%)
• Median age: 27

Vaccination Numbers - Up to Thursday 25th March

• Total doses: 760,168 (+27,490)
• First dose: 548,945 (+18,961)
• Second: 211,223 (+8,529)

3,992 cases this week.



An increase of 128 cases compared to last week making it the second week of an increase in cases.

A list of previous weeks (Mon-Sun) for anyone interested:


A graph of weekly cases.


All information gathered on gov.ie from the Department of Health.

• Week 53 - 15,759 (National Level 5: 30/12)
• Week 01 (2021) - 45,770
• Week 02 - 25,212
• Week 03 - 14,877
• Week 04 - 9,016
• Week 05 - 7,170
• Week 06 - 6,044
• Week 07 - 5,564
• Week 08 - 4,574
• Week 09 - 3,660
• Week 10 - 3,544
• Week 11 - 3,864
• Week 12 - 3,992 (This Week)

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’m in Spain now. Flew there from Ireland. About a month ago.

As for the UK variant, why don’t you go look at the UK numbers right now. In fact, for the last month. Increased transmissibility doesn’t seem to be hitting them that hard!

And as for your posting of a couple of links to show some supposed hard policing.....one is a YEAR old, and the police got in a ton of trouble for the other!! Can’t believe you actually posted them! I’ve spent most of lockdown, and since Xmas, between the UK and Ireland. I am telling you that there are no roadblocks in the UK like in Ireland. Policing of a supposed ‘stay at home’ order is nonexistent. You suggested the other day that benches are taped off.....that is just a fabrication! They were taped in lockdown one last year. Now everyone is out and about in groups, picnicking, drinking. Crowds of cyclists heading to the Surrey hills from London for long weekend morning bike rides. I have a house in SW London and have done this myself.

You are trying to portray some image of the UK to people on this forum that is completely false. I am not sure why, TBH. But needless to say, the restrictions in Ireland are far harsher, and more tightly policed, than in the Uk

The UK is currently leading with its vaccination schedule. The UK varient already has run rampant there.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

Maybe its that you think vaccinations there weren't effective?

I'm afraid but you didn't request time delimited media stories. There just the first two from a Google search. I'm sure if you look you can find more.

You don't believe there was no benches tapped down in the UK? On one hand you claim its a fabrication and then claimed it happened last year! It either happened or it didn't Or again are you suggesting because it did happen - its now somehow irrelevant?

Btw the last bit. That's your opinion. And it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

More on just how strict the UKs stay at home / exercise locally policy is. This from Jan 2021

https://www.heart.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lockdown-sit-park-benches-priti-patel/

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/covid-priti-patel-warns-people-sat-on-park-benches-will-be-moved-on-13864907/

Sofa King Great

ShineOn7 wrote: »

New cases: 604
Denotified cases: 0
Total cases: 234,541
New deaths: 13
Denotified deaths: 0
Total deaths: 4,666

Of the 13 mortalaties reported today

• 12 occurred in March
• 1 under investigation
• Median age: 77
• Age range: 51-83

Of the 604 cases notified today

• Male: 299
• Female: 298
• Under 45 years old: 465 (77%)
• Median age: 27

Vaccination Numbers - Up to Thursday 25th March

• Total doses: 760,168 (+27,490)
• First dose: 548,945 (+18,961)
• Second: 211,223 (+8,529)

3,992 cases this week.



An increase of 128 cases compared to last week making it the second week of an increase in cases.

A list of previous weeks (Mon-Sun) for anyone interested:


A graph of weekly cases.


All information gathered on gov.ie from the Department of Health.

• Week 53 - 15,759 (National Level 5: 30/12)
• Week 01 (2021) - 45,770
• Week 02 - 25,212
• Week 03 - 14,877
• Week 04 - 9,016
• Week 05 - 7,170
• Week 06 - 6,044
• Week 07 - 5,564
• Week 08 - 4,574
• Week 09 - 3,660
• Week 10 - 3,544
• Week 11 - 3,864
• Week 12 - 3,992 (This Week)

A 3% increase from 20,000 extra tests (including walk in testing for the first time) in a week following St Patrick's Day and Mother's Day and two weeks after the schools went back. All while battling "New" strains that are far more transmissible

Seems like not a bad result to me.

Goes without saying that all the deaths are a tragedy but hopefully they are a thing of the past soon

paddyisreal

gozunda wrote: »

The UK is currently leading with its vaccination schedule. The UK varient already has run rampant there.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

Maybe its that you don't think vaccinations there weren't effective?

I'm afraid but you didn't request time delimited media stories. There just the first two from a Google search. I'm sure if you look you can find more.

You don't believe there was no benches tapped down in the UK? Or again are you suggesting because it did happen - its now irrelevant?

Again could you explain why you keep on having comparison of the lockdown rules in the UK with Ireland? A country of 60 million with a rural country of 4.5? compare apples with apples maybe? Norway, Denmark Iceland maybe? As far as I know none of them have this stupid 5k restrictions.

Wolf359f

Sofa King Great wrote: »

A 3% increase from 20,000 extra tests (including walk in testing for the first time) in a week following St Patrick's Day and Mother's Day and two weeks after the schools went back. All while battling "New" strains that are far more transmissible

Seems like not a bad result to me.

Goes without saying that all the deaths are a tragedy but hopefully they are a thing of the past soon

I was just totting that up on the calculator, 3% increase, down from the 9% increase previously. That's a really good outcome. Well I mean it's good that it didn't grow by 9% again.

covidrelease

gozunda wrote: »

Really? You believe the UK government made it all up?

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

Turtwig wrote: »

Have criticisms for or against the various restrictions is fine and reasonable. Suggesting the UK variant isn't more transmissible is on par with suggesting the vaccines impact fertility.

Criticise NPHET. Critise the government, whomever you like... For fcks sake don't enter delusion land claiming the UK variant isn't more transmissible. It is.

How sure can you be? It emerged at the worst possible point in the cycle, short days, cold weather, public apathy, Christmas gatherings, christmas dinner etc. etc.

If it never existed we may have been in the exact same position. Christmas was always going to be a **** show.

gozunda

paddyisreal wrote: »

Again could you explain why you keep on having comparison of the lockdown rules in the UK with Ireland? A country of 60 million with a rural country of 4.5? compare apples with apples maybe? Norway, Denmark Iceland maybe? As far as I know none of them have this stupid 5k restrictions.

Where's Ireland mentioned in any of that comment? And its both Ireland and the UK both have a variation on these restrictions. It was also listed as an example of a country where such restrictions are in place. And is simply a statement of fact that they do have "stay at home / exercise locally" restrictions. And that they are being policed

https://www.heart.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lockdown-sit-park-benches-priti-patel/

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/covid-priti-patel-warns-people-sat-on-park-benches-will-be-moved-on-13864907/

Tbf if you do want to go down the comparison route- Norway, Denmark, Iceland ? Like Ireland? Erm I'd say there just as different as the UK to be fair.

Dickie10

wow yes thats just occcurred we should have seen the paddys day jump in cases , it hasnt really happened , or mothers day as of yet either. hospitalisations are the ones to really watch though lets see if they go down tuesday when numbers for weekend come out. i think the deaths will start to dry up very soon too. the people out in the community now would want to be fairly unlucky to die from covid at this stage with so many vulnerable vaxxed.

covidrelease

gozunda wrote: »

Where's Ireland mentioned in any of that comment? And its both Ireland and the UK both have a variation on these restrictions. It was also listed as an example of a country where such restrictions are in place. And is simply a statement of fact that they do have "stay at home / exercise locally" restrictions. And that they are being policed

https://www.heart.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lockdown-sit-park-benches-priti-patel/

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/covid-priti-patel-warns-people-sat-on-park-benches-will-be-moved-on-13864907/

Tbf if you do want to go down the comparison route- Norway, Denmark, Iceland ? Like Ireland? Erm I'd say there just as different as the UK to be fair.

You keep linking to historical newspaper articles, early January.

covidrelease

Dickie10 wrote: »

wow yes thats just occcurred we should have seen the paddys day jump in cases , it hasnt really happened , or mothers day as of yet either. hospitalisations are the ones to really watch though lets see if they go down tuesday when numbers for weekend come out. i think the deaths will start to dry up very soon too. the people out in the community now would want to be fairly unlucky to die from covid at this stage with so many vulnerable vaxxed.

NPHET are saying social mixing has increased a lot in recent weeks, yet this highly transmissible UK variant is making no inroads.

gozunda

covidrelease wrote: »

You keep linking to historical newspaper articles, early January.

January 2021 is historical? Has the UK government changed or Boris has been replaced or maybe a change in policy on the restrictions detailed in that article. If there has been Link please

Btw I linked this one as well. Is it also "historical"?

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

Wolf359f

covidrelease wrote: »

NPHET are saying social mixing has increased a lot in recent weeks, yet this highly transmissible UK variant is making no inroads.

Maybe if we didn't have the UK variant we would be well under 600 cases per day?

ShineOn7

Wolf359f wrote: »

Maybe if we didn't have the UK variant we would be well under 600 cases per day?

We absolutely would be

covidrelease

gozunda wrote: »

January 2021 is historical? Has the UK government changed or Boris has been replaced or maybe a change in policy on the restrictions detailed in that article. If there has been Link please

Btw I linked this one as well. Is it also "historical"?

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

You are claiming UK restrictions are being policed, then post links to several months ago, which is past tense.

Any links to police actions in relation to restrictions this past week?

covidrelease

Wolf359f wrote: »

Maybe if we didn't have the UK variant we would be well under 600 cases per day?

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We absolutely would be

How do you know?

We have loads of counties with very few cases anyway, even with this highly transmissible uk one.

manofwisdom

Wolf359f wrote: »

Maybe if we didn't have the UK variant we would be well under 600 cases per day?

And 600 cases now would be 300 or less this time last year going by the difference in testing.

Wolf359f

covidrelease wrote: »

How do you know?

We have loads of counties with very few cases anyway, even with this highly transmissible uk one.

I'm not basing this on randon variables in relation to different countries with different restrictions with different lockdowns and different ratio of the UK variant.
I'm just comparing apples to apples, same country, same population, same lockdown (for the most part) same time of year. Only main difference is the UK variant.

covidrelease

manofwisdom wrote: »

And 600 cases now would be 300 or less this time last year going by the difference in testing.

And this time last year absolutely everything was closed and everybody stayed at home.

covidrelease

Wolf359f wrote: »

I'm not basing this on randon variables in relation to different countries with different restrictions with different lockdowns and different ratio of the UK variant.
I'm just comparing apples to apples, same country, same population, same lockdown (for the most part) same time of year. Only main difference is the UK variant.

Are you telling me the lockdown in Ireland today is exactly the same as 12 months ago?

shtpEdthePlum

Brisbane in lockdown again after 4 cases of community transmission were detected.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/nationals-mp-harassed-in-parliament-20210329-p57eta

Allegedly for three days.

Wolf359f

manofwisdom wrote: »

And 600 cases now would be 300 or less this time last year going by the difference in testing.

Well if we go by hospital admissions, because they are more reliable:
April 2020: 34 admissions per day average (average daily cases: 503)
March 2021: 22 admissions per day average (average daily cases: 538)
So 600 cases today would see the same number hospitalized as 388 cases last April.

Wolf359f

covidrelease wrote: »

Are you telling me the lockdown in Ireland today is exactly the same as 12 months ago?

Sorry I misread that as countries and not counties! My bad.
The discrepancy between counties is vast and can't be explained by the UK variant.
As some posted before, take out 5/6 counties and we're doing a **** load better.
And not tiny counties, the likes of Cork etc...

paddyisreal

gozunda wrote: »

Where's Ireland mentioned in any of that comment? And its both Ireland and the UK both have a variation on these restrictions. It was also listed as an example of a country where such restrictions are in place. And is simply a statement of fact that they do have "stay at home / exercise locally" restrictions. And that they are being policed

https://www.heart.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lockdown-sit-park-benches-priti-patel/

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/covid-priti-patel-warns-people-sat-on-park-benches-will-be-moved-on-13864907/

Tbf if you do want to go down the comparison route- Norway, Denmark, Iceland ? Like Ireland? Erm I'd say there just as different as the UK to be fair.

Norway, Denmark, Iceland don't have the 5k rule or anything like it so when you compare countries of similar demographics to ourselves we are out of our own

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

January 2021 is historical? Has the UK government changed or Boris has been replaced or maybe a change in policy on the restrictions detailed in that article. If there has been Link please

Btw I linked this one as well. Is it also "historical"?

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-uk-variant/

You link to an single article in January 2021, and neglect to mention that the police had to apologise afterwards to the women for their heavy handed approach, after being crucified on social media and criticised by their own government

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-derbyshire-55625062

And, yes, park benches have not been taped up since the end of lockdown one last year

And there has been a complete change in policing, even if the ‘stay at home’ ruling theoretically remains in place (albeit there is no limit laid down in law for travel distance to exercise)

As for the Reuters article. All very interesting, and no-one denies the late 2020 surge, but case rates in Ireland and the UK now, despite an increased level of mobility and mixing and schools, no longer support this ongoing narrative of the dangers of this super transmissible UK variant.

covidrelease

Wolf359f wrote: »

Sorry I misread that as countries and not counties! My bad.
The discrepancy between counties is vast and can't be explained by the UK variant.
As some posted before, take out 5/6 counties and we're doing a **** load better.
And not tiny counties, the likes of Cork etc...

Our rural country throws up erratic numbers. Monaghan was the highest back in February but is almost covid free now.