Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1376519668580634632?s=19

NPHET = No Policy for Health Except Trepidation

Vicxas

I miss Leo

Michael has as much spine as wet Origami

shamco

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The man is an utter coward with all the leadership qualities of a wet dishcloth.

Has to be the most useless government in the history of the state. Hiding behind an unelected advisory board.

SleetAndSnow

If Cork has 20 cases again today, and its still under the full level 5, it will really be a disgrace. 5 or 6 counties do need level 5, regional needs to come back. That way greater enforcement can be put in the areas that require it and more policing on the roads that need it etc, taken away from the areas that do not.

darem93

Micheal might as well just let Philip Nolan or Ronan Glynn do the announcement tomorrow, considering - despite being leader of the country - he has practically gone into hiding and seems to have just handed the entire reins over to NPHET.

I'm sure there's nothing he'd love more than being able to wash his hands of it. It's like when you work in customer service and beg one of your co-workers to call back that person who made a complaint because you don't want to deal with the flak :pac:

Sparko

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

More caution, that's good. If there's one thing we've been lacking in all this, it's caution.

An abundance of caution.

shamco

Sparko wrote: »

An abundance of caution.

Frozen stiff

kleiner feigling

Deleted User wrote: »

You mean SA? Brazil? Florida? The autumn European surge starting 2 months before the normal winter virus season? New surges in spring in Europe, at the end of normal winter virus season?

The surge you're referring to is presumably to do with positive tests.
I'd be hesitant to draw any conclusions from positive covid test figures as many of these are asymptomatic, and who knows how many asymptomatic cases happened last year so that data is incomplete.

I'd argue the covid death figures are more indicative of what's happening, and do point to seasonality.
A cursory look at Covid deaths in Europe for example shows peak deaths were in Dec/Jan.
The deaths in Europe are tapering slightly now as we enter spring.

Further to that, there has been a fair deal of data regarding the instability of the virus with varying humidity, temperature, and UV levels which obviously varies from country to country throughout the year, and would suggest the virus may be stronger/weaker as these fluctuate with the seasons. Depends on the local climate.

Also, seasonality does not mean the virus will follow the exact same pattern as Flu, it just means the virus has a cycle (can be prevalent at one time in the calendar, or even multi-annually).

Obviously there are numerous competing factors including lockdowns, vaccinations, weakened immune-systems in winter due to reduced sunlight etc.

Feel free to disagree.

caveat emptor

That's pretty remarkable given the population is about 8 million.

https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1376482539431415808?s=20

KrustyUCC

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1376519668580634632?s=19

Good Lord

Even more cautious

Have to laugh at the government

They're going to make SFA changes anyway

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1376519668580634632?s=19

No point in speculating really, we all know not much changes in April anyway. It's been pretty well flagged there's only a handful of changes coming.

1 in RTE says one thing, another says something else..
https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1376510954570125320?s=20

CruelSummer

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1376519668580634632?s=19

Well that’s the end of people following these absolutely nonsense over the top rules so. They’ve two choices now, make it possible for people to meet in a controlled way outdoors, lift the 5k and allow outdoor sports for children and certain sports for adults to recommence, click and collect at a minimum.
Why is construction not considered an essential service & returned? Do the Government not care if people don’t have somewhere to live? Considering all they’ve talked about over the past 12 months is ‘Stay at home’, it’s hard to believe.

Hospitalisation and ICU numbers are falling, this nonsense about a new wave doesn’t add up in the figures, they’ve to test 20,000 per day to find 500~600 cases, they used to test between 10-12k per day before Christmas. They’re now using pop up centres to find asymptomatic cases...people that are not sick. These could also be past Covid infections and not present depending on the amount of rounds / cycles being used currently. I think it’s a good thing that so many people don’t have symptoms and are not sick, not bad.

Our Government have a serious lack of leadership and direction. It doesn’t feel like Ireland knows where it’s going with this, it feels like there’s a void at the top which gives rise to the likes of the extremists ISAG and others in the media.

Doctor Jimbob

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No point in speculating really, we all know not much changes in April anyway. It's been pretty well flagged there's only a handful of changes coming.

1 in RTE says one thing, another says something else..
https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1376510954570125320?s=20

They're going to go to 10.1km instead of 10km.

muddypuppy

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No point in speculating really, we all know not much changes in April anyway. It's been pretty well flagged there's only a handful of changes coming.

1 in RTE says one thing, another says something else..
https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1376510954570125320?s=20

They don't really contradict themself. I'm willing to bet that NPHET advise is "keep the country on level 5, maybe allow construction and increase the 5k limit to 10/20k, definitely don't allow any kind of gathering, even outdoor". The gov might be cautious and stagger those changes, and also allow outdoor sports and change the 5k to county limit instead.

Sanjuro

Christ. I despise the leaks. I think it has been the source of most of my anxiety over the last 6 months no matter how I try to distance myself from this garbage.

Kunta Kinte

covidrelease wrote: »

And as usual nothing but arrogance from RTE.

Jon Williams, managing director of RTE News, said RTE won’t make a correction.

“Nothing to correct,” he added. “RTE reported, accurately, findings from ESRI. Yes, hospitality closed, but cafes, restaurants and some pubs open for takeaway.

And RTE are absolutely correct to state this. Or do you believe that no pubs cafes etc. are open for takeaways?

ninebeanrows

A reminder of the madness that occurred last summer.

We never fully reopened, we never enabled our citizens to live with any sense of reprieve yet these were our figures in late June

Positive Swabs
7

Positivity Rate
0.15%

Swabs processed
4,591

Positive swabs (last 31 days)
611

covidrelease

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

And RTE are absolutely correct to state this. Or do you believe that no pubs cafes etc. are open for takeaways?

Pubs don't do takeaways. That is an off licence.

ninebeanrows

Great numbers!

UNLOCK!!

Positive Swabs
498

Positivity Rate
3.69%

Swabs processed
13,507

Positive swabs (last 31 days)
17,535

Kunta Kinte

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

If Cork has 20 cases again today, and its still under the full level 5, it will really be a disgrace. 5 or 6 counties do need level 5, regional needs to come back. That way greater enforcement can be put in the areas that require it and more policing on the roads that need it etc, taken away from the areas that do not.

So what level do you think Cork should go to?

covidrelease

ninebeanrows wrote: »

A reminder of the madness that occurred last summer.

We never fully reopened, we never enabled our citizens to live with any sense of reprieve yet these were our figures in late June

Positive Swabs
7

Positivity Rate
0.15%

Swabs processed
4,591

Positive swabs (last 31 days)
611

Every second sentence out of the donkeys mouth tomorrow will mention "new variant"

jhegarty

Monday :
Positive Swabs : 498
Positivity Rate : 3.69%


Sunday :
Positive Swabs : 603
Positivity Rate : 3.07%

pauldry

Zero cases in Sligo yesterday and an average of 1 per day.

Still everything completely closed.

This country is a prison.

hynesie08

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1376544438718246923?s=20

That's the good ****....

stephenjmcd

Sunday & Monday
https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1376544438718246923?s=19

Doctor Jimbob

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Great numbers!

UNLOCK!!

Positive Swabs
498

Positivity Rate
3.69%

Swabs processed
13,507

Positive swabs (last 31 days)
17,535

Less positives on more tests compared to last Monday. 7 day average is also down.

gozunda

covidrelease wrote: »

You keep banging on about enforcement measures in the UK from nearly 3 months ago, when the virus was rampant, to try and make out the UK police have been adapting similar enforcement measures in recent weeks.

It just silly.

Nope. You're obsession with dates of references is definitely silly. Especially where they show - as detailed restrictions have been policed there.
The only insisting of "recent weeks" is yourself btw. And you must have missed it I posted yet another updated link and you're still complaining. :rolleyes: :pac:

covidrelease

jhegarty wrote: »

Monday :
Positive Swabs : 498
Positivity Rate : 3.69%


Sunday :
Positive Swabs : 603
Positivity Rate : 3.07%

So they delayed their meeting to get up to date numbers, (anticipating an increase due to the new variant all people mixing in greater numbers)

Now numbers looking reasonable, I bet they won't change their tune though.

km79

Well now .........NPHET wanted to wait for the weekend data to make a more informed decision
There it is

covidrelease

gozunda wrote: »

Nope. You're obsession with dates of references is definitely silly. Especially where they show - as detailed restrictions have been policed there. And you must have missed it I posted yet another updated link and you're still complaining. :rolleyes: :pac:

yeah please yourself with your links to show what was happening months ago:pac: