Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

gozunda

podgeandrodge wrote: »

In the interests of argument, can you post a few bullets with your 'spin' so that people can see both sides.

• This is the "spin" ...

Average new case numbers have plateaued




• Currently the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 which Indicates the rate of infection is on the rise

TheDoctor

gozunda wrote: »

• This is the "spin" ...


• Currently the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 and Indicates the rate of infection is on the rise

Looks to be trending downwards the last week.

Things are getting better.

Good job everyone!

gozunda

TheDoctor wrote: »

Looks to be trending downwards the last week.

Things are getting better.

Good job everyone!

Maybe look at the overall / average number of new cases . So no overall not "not trending downwards"

11521323

gozunda wrote: »

Maybe look at the average number of new cases . So no overall not "not trending downwards"

If you look at everything in context, the extra cases relative to the extra tests is good news.

gozunda

11521323 wrote: »

If you look at everything in context, the extra cass relative to the extra tests is good news.

Wha?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206166-covid-figures/

Chair of NPHET's Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group Professor Philip Nolan said when all of the virus data is taken into account the situation is either at a very static position or one that’s increasing slowly.

He said the reproduction number is between 1 and 1.3 and he said that the situation with cases is "volatile" and remains "at high risk".

CIARAN_BOYLE

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

alexonhisown

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

Not supposed to go to walk in test centres if you have symptoms, it’s only for asymptomatic people, don’t know if close contacts can go, probably not

PmMeUrDogs

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Does anyone know if the walk in test centre are doing what they are supposed to do or are they serving as a no appointment test centre to speed up testing for close contacts and people with symptoms.

I'd imagine close contacts are probably going.

A user earlier said that her symptomatic child and close contact went.

Eod100

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

blowitupref

gozunda wrote: »

Wha?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206166-covid-figures/

Would you class 202 more cases from 27,823 extra tests as a volatile situation?

gozunda

blowitupref wrote: »

Would you class 202 more cases from 27,823 extra tests as a volatile situation?

"202"?

Today's figures show * 539 new cases * .

First rule of statistics. Don't take one days data in isolation.

bennyl10

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

Lowered?
How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

Deeper Blue

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

People's expectations are on the ****ing floor, how could they be any lower?

The government are so out of touch it's actually funny at this stage.

KrustyUCC

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

Like you said expectations are low anyway

They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway

stephenjmcd

PmMeUrDogs wrote: »

I'd imagine close contacts are probably going.

A user earlier said that her symptomatic child and close contact went.

Neither should be going to a walk in centre as per HSE guidelines issued last week

Symptomatic are still supposed to go via GP, close contacts via contact tracing

Purple Mountain

bennyl10 wrote: »

Lowered?
How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

I'm finding it very frustrating that I can walk into an off licence and stock up on alcohol but I can't take my son into a shoe shop to get badly needed shoes for his supposed return to school in 2 weeks.

Eod100

bennyl10 wrote: »

Lowered?
How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

I think if they don't change the 5km then they run the real risk of losing majority of people if they haven't all ready.

blowitupref

gozunda wrote: »

"202"?

Today's figures show * 539 new cases * .

First rule of statistics. Don't take one days data in isolation.

I don't i always focus on 7 or 14 day averages.

202 is weekly difference in case numbers and 27,823 more tests was carried out the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

Yup would say so.

KrustyUCC

They'll change the 5km alright

Political suicide not to do that

I'm getting worried about them pushing construction reopening out to May

cjyid

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

Mental. We're gonna be like this until next year if the government don't grow a pair.

gozunda

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

Like you said expectations are low anyway

They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway

Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

BorneTobyWilde

All this talk of opening up, yet cases have not come down. We are trying to follow UK who have vaccinated millions.

Doctor Jimbob

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's as expected NPHET basically want nothing, gov want to give something

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1376645360899256322?s=19

Why is this being framed as what NPHET want vs what government wants? NPHET are there to advise government, not debate with them.

Not having a go at you at all, just find the commentary around this weird in general.

SCOOP 64

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Jeez sounds like the government will be caving even more to NPHET

Like you said expectations are low anyway

They were never likely to agree to any significant easing of restrictions and the leaks over the past few days are very limited easing of restrictions

Move from 5km to 10km, construction opening and 3 households meeting outdoor which people are doing anyway

So no change there then for most of the population.

km79

gozunda wrote: »

Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

People needing homes built to live in ?

stephenjmcd

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Why is this being framed as what NPHET want vs what government wants? NPHET are there to advise government, not debate with them.

Not having a go at you at all, just find the commentary around this weird in general.

I agree

They don't help themselves though with their recommendations.

Except they already know there isn't going to be a major easing

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376649899790450692?s=19

Str8outtaWuhan

KrustyUCC wrote: »

They'll change the 5km alright

Political suicide not to do that

I'm getting worried about them pushing construction reopening out to May

5.1 km

NH2013

gozunda wrote: »

Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

I'd imagine hospital numbers and ICU would have to be a key indicator going forward with vaccinations increasingly covering those likely to end up in hospital, don't know if we're at that point yet, but at some stage that will have to become a bigger indicator of the situation.

Other indicators could be general compliance with the rules, better to have a set of rule people are prepared to obey, than rules which are probably better at reducing spread but are widely ignored.