Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

KrustyUCC

gozunda wrote: »

Considering the relevant data - the plateaueing of new cases and a rising r rate - what are the indicators for rolling back more restrictions?

See blowitups post above

Very little change in cases for much more testing

The more you test the more cases you'll find

See the pop up centres

NPHET don't want any changes

They have no care for the wellbeing of society or how hard the restrictions have been not the effort people have put in

4 months of not seeing friends, family, partners

If the government don't give small changes after 4 months of level 5 there's going to be a lot more people not adhering to the restrictions

blowitupref

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

All this talk of opening up, yet cases have not come down. We are trying to follow UK who have vaccinated millions.

The talk is on minor easing that was meant to get people outdoors more than indoors as the virus spreads the most in the latter. Opening up would be level 3 or lower and would require more of the population vaccinated.

marno21

Relax the 5km to countywide in counties with incidence rate of less than 100. Kildare, Offaly and Laois went to stay in your county last year at 80 per 100k.

Why Cork and Kerry deserve the glorified house arrest treatment with incidence rates less than 50 while Offaly is treated the same with incidence rate 10 times as much is beyond me

Really disappointing that NPHET and the Government aren't being taken on regarding regional discrepancies and why people in Cork and Kerry have to continually suffer due to clear outbreaks in Leinster.

Cork2021

Sorry in advance!! NPHET need to fuçk off!!! Who the fuçk is in charge????
Watching CB there and the journalist it’s so negative so so negative!!!!

PTH2009

Jesus some comedy show on CB live now

NPHET saying to the Ministers tonight 'if you don't do this then you wont get that'

CruelSummer

Christ Almighty, NPHET want another 6-8 weeks according to a journalist on Claire Byrne. Seriously?!!

The answer should be a firm no, change our approach and a more targeted approach.

Not even raising the km limit much by the sounds of it. Feck that.

Sammy2012

Luckily I've had a good sup of wine. Just turned on Claire Byrne. WTAF??!!! Nothing really opening up not even construction!!!

Messi19

I can't wait for the next general election. NPHET gonna get destroyed at the ballot box

giveitholly

So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts

KrustyUCC

marno21 wrote: »

Relax the 5km to countywide in counties with incidence rate of less than 100. Kildare, Offaly and Laois went to stay in your county last year at 80 per 100k.

Why Cork and Kerry deserve the glorified house arrest treatment with incidence rates less than 50 while Offaly is treated the same with incidence rate 10 times as much is beyond me

Really disappointing that NPHET and the Government aren't being taken on regarding regional discrepancies and why people in Cork and Kerry have to continually suffer due to clear outbreaks in Leinster.

Very easy to lockdown

NPHET and the government had no issue with the LOKdown last year

Coming up with a plan for easing restrictions in regions or counties won't be countenanced as it would require work so they'll stick to blanket restrictions

Natterjack from Kerry

bennyl10 wrote: »

Lowered?
How in gods name can they be lowered? Construction and 5k being scrapped can’t be negotiable at this point surely

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

CruelSummer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

10km in May 3rd - absolute joke.

Corholio

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

No way will they not increase the 5km limit until May. They will actually do more damage to their 'targets' by doing that. Cases will rise out of sheer frustration.

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure how people's expectations could be much lower tbh https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1376644324071514130?s=19

Maybe it means NPHETs expectations need to be lowered......

or not

KrustyUCC

giveitholly wrote: »

So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts

Yeah just behave for at least another 2 months then we may get a summer if we're all good boys and girls

Couldn't give any dates to the public but NPHET and the government have no problem coming up with dates that we can't do things by

NPHET completely running the country so the government will just roll over again

gozunda

blowitupref wrote: »

I don't i always focus on 7 or 14 day averages.

202 is weekly difference in case numbers and 27,823 more tests was carried out the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days

More testing is good.

New case numbers are not showing any significant reduction over time.

namloc1980

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

If they come out with that people will just throw the towel in. The 5km is already being widely ignored.

KrustyUCC

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

Where are you finding those proposals?

TheDoctor

We are all the worst and deserve to be punished by NPHET

marno21

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-delivers-stark-warning-to-government-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

Unbelievable stuff. 2000 cases a day within a week if the 5km is relaxed.

They don't seem to realise that Ireland is not a police state. It's police by consent here. The people will stop supporting these measures unless there is some reprieve tomorrow. Then they will get their "fourth wave" regardless.

11521323

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Where are you finding those proposals?

He's pulled them from the depths of an orifice.

Natterjack from Kerry

giveitholly wrote: »

So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts

Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.

11521323

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-delivers-stark-warning-to-government-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

Unbelievable stuff. 2000 cases a day within a week if the 5km is relaxed.

They don't seem to realise that Ireland is not a police state. It's police by consent here. The people will stop supporting these measures unless there is some reprieve tomorrow. Then they will get their "fourth wave" regardless.

They also don't realize people don't give a **** about the 5km radius anymore, they're living in a fantasy and oblivious to reality.

KrustyUCC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Very easy to lockdown

NPHET and the government had no issue with the LOKdown last year

Coming up with a plan for easing restrictions in regions or counties won't be countenanced as it would require work so they'll stick to blanket restrictions

They are all spineless

marno21

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.

How do you input mass disobedience and complete collapse of public buy in to the modelling?

It's evidently going on already and it's compliance isn't going to increase if we get told we're bold and getting no treats tomorrow.

stephenjmcd

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Where are you finding those proposals?

He's making them up as usual

Natterjack from Kerry

namloc1980 wrote: »

If they come out with that people will just throw the towel in. The 5km is already being widely ignored.

Then are they not perfectly correct to maintain it ?

Polar101

Corholio wrote: »

No way will they not increase the 5km limit until May. They will actually do more damage to their 'targets' by doing that. Cases will rise out of sheer frustration.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if that didn't change on Monday.

11521323

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.

Their modelling is bollocks and has been off time and time again. "Maths of the virus" - good heavens. I haven't seen you critically analyse anything from NPHET, you seem to just blindly agree.

TheDoctor

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Schools to reopen on 12th.
Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
Kids sports training from 26th.
5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
Construction reopening May 3rd.
Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

Far too aggressive a reopening.

3 weeks minimum between each date.