Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Maxface

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Dev's gonna need extra servers for 6pm here tomorrow




More here https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-gives-stark-warning-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

We have already moved from 4-6 weeks to 4-8 and that's just the leaks. Gonna be fun tomorrow.

Oranage2

Corholio wrote: »

Another week of both numbers falling, another week of both numbers relegated to stat fillers in terms of importance to some.

The problem with today's figures are that they're the result of the daily cases 2-3 weeks ago. Our rising numbers this week will be seen in rising hospital numbers in 2-3 weeks time.

This is like a ship, you've to start turning the wheel well in advance

Deeper Blue

Oranage2 wrote: »

The problem with today's figures are that they're the result of the daily cases 2-3 weeks ago. Our rising numbers this week will be seen in rising hospital numbers in 2-3 weeks time.

This is like a ship, you've to start turning the wheel well in advance

The amount of people vaccinated should prevent this to a certain extent

spookwoman

Deeper Blue wrote: »

The amount of people vaccinated should prevent this to a certain extent

Not really. If you go back over the age hospitalised for the last few weeks the under 65's are being hospitalized more than the 65+ on a 7 day running total. last week a mess because of the amount of hospitalisations removed. About mid Feb there was a change from 65+ going into hospital.

prunudo

I think, for the health of my mind, today will be a day to introduce new restrictions, namely to restrict the amount of news articles and covid threads I listen, view or read.

caveat emptor

I don't think county level restrictions would work. It sounds offaly like zero covid. What would happen the local super value? We'd have to intern truck drivers and that's not feasible. Unfortunately Cork and Kerry share a border with a different jurisdiction and there is freedom of movement for essential reasons.

Frankly people advocating county level zero covid need to be interrogated on what that actually means. :rolleyes:

Have we being conditioned into believing that a slight relaxation of travel restrictions and reopening construction is not lockdown?

That’s very much still lockdown and will likely last 8 weeks.

At the end of that time, we’ll have spent 7 out of 8 months locked down!!!

quartz1

As another poster commented today is a day to stay away from the News. The Government .have no imagination, no ideas, no plans and sadly.few vaccines. I will comsole myself that someday it will end and someday there will be a ballot paper and election.

blowitupref

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

You mean you aren't looking forward to the headmaster's speech this evening telling us we're all in detention for another few weeks because some of the class can't behave? Personally I can't wait.

We should organise a guessing game on how many times Mr Martin says variants and cautious in todays public address

podgeandrodge

RTE:

"Changes are expected to be limited as concern remains about a possible fourth wave of Covid.

The five-day average of cases stands at 620, while the number of new cases has been over 600 for five of the past six days.
However, the Government wants to offer some hope to a fed-up public.

Mr Martin will also set out a plan for a broader relaxation in May and June with the return of non-essential retail, outdoor dining and personal services, but no dates will be attached to it.

It is hoped this time will be the last appeal for people to hold firm as the vaccination programme ramps up significantly."

"In addition, there has been an increased level in the referrals of children.

Ms O'Beirne commented that there has been quite an increase in mass testing of children, as a result of index cases in schools, but that this has "really low positivity levels". She said the five new walk-in centres have been really well received and the overall positivity rate is 3%. Although Blanchardstown initially had a higher positivity rating, it has now come in line with the other centres. She said most people who have tested positive are asymptomatic and a much younger cohort is presenting for testing, with people between the ages of 25 and 44 making up 41% of those coming forward for testing."

bennyl10

Morning Ireland news saying inter county by mid April

podgeandrodge

In good news, depending on your viewpoint:

"The risk of onward transmission of Covid-19 seems to be reduced in those who are vaccinated, according to a technical review published today by the European Centre for Disease Control.

It also said today that Covid-19 re-infections are rare.

The ECDC said that while the impact of the new variants on transmission patterns needs to be closely monitored, it is expected that the total number of infections will significantly decrease as vaccination coverage increases.

It said that evidence of the impact of vaccination is available from one study which suggests that vaccination of a household member reduces the risk of infection in susceptible household members by at least 30%."

is_that_so

Assuming he does speak, I'm not sure Martin can get the tone right at all and will more likely front load it with the very limited changes and keep claiming to understand how difficult it is. Of more importance will be how they intend the rest of the plan to work and probable intervals. One would really hope we don't get a lot of June, 9 weeks away, will be so much better. That said NPHET are pushing a better life in 8-12 weeks so he's corralled to an extent. Even so the real risk of not offering at least a modicum of hope is that people will really abandon compliance in larger numbers.

iamwhoiam

British Columbia in Canada had a huge rise in cases . What did they do ? A three week sharp circuit breaker and everyone listens and complies because they trust them to stick to it
Here we know damn well they are only teasing and will extend it until Christmas and think we dont notice

stephenjmcd

Firstly the tweet is incorrect to start with, secondly anyone who follows the hospital numbers on this thread will know they go up and down, such an odd article

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376786272761606144?s=19

irishguy1983

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Firstly the tweet is incorrect to start with, secondly anyone who follows the hospital numbers on this thread will know they go up and down, such an odd article

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376786272761606144?s=19

You get this from RTE this morning...

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0330/1206909-coronavirus-ireland/

Kiith

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Firstly the tweet is incorrect to start with, secondly anyone who follows the hospital numbers on this thread will know they go up and down, such an odd article

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376786272761606144?s=19

I'll bet they don't tweet every time the numbers drop, do they? :mad:

manofwisdom

This was plan at the end of February.



All that has changed is the plan pushed back two weeks. No other restrictions was ever to be lifted in April but it didn't stop many journalists brewing up a storm into thinking more was promised.

stephenjmcd

irishguy1983 wrote: »

You get this from RTE this morning...

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0330/1206909-coronavirus-ireland/

Funny how the same numbers can give 2 completely different takes isn't it

is_that_so

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Firstly the tweet is incorrect to start with, secondly anyone who follows the hospital numbers on this thread will know they go up and down, such an odd article

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1376786272761606144?s=19

Not too inclined to comment on the spectre of media COVID porn but that's a prime example of something to set people up for a miserable day!

Jim_Hodge

bennyl10 wrote: »

Morning Ireland news saying inter county by mid April

They said within County by mid-April. But, I'll wait for the actual announcement as all this speculation is wearing.

11521323

manofwisdom wrote: »

This was plan at the end of February.



All that has changed is the plan pushed back two weeks. No other restrictions was ever to be lifted in April but it didn't stop many journalists brewing up a storm into thinking more was promised.

Yeah but the fact it's pushed back is just another notch in the belt of bull**** that they've worn since this began.

It's disingenuous and it's a sneaky way of extracting another few weeks of level 5 out of an already tired population. It makes me physically sick.

Sanjuro

is_that_so wrote: »

Assuming he does speak, I'm not sure Martin can get the tone right at all and will more likely front load it with the very limited changes and keep claiming to understand how difficult it is. Of more importance will be how they intend the rest of the plan to work and probable intervals. One would really hope we don't get a lot of June, 9 weeks away, will be so much better. That said NPHET are pushing a better life in 8-12 weeks so he's corralled to an extent. Even so the real risk of not offering at least a modicum of hope is that people will really abandon compliance in larger numbers.

Micheal Martin is a charisma vacuum. I have never seen such a weasly, insipid man become the leader of a country. Seriously, was the leader of Fianna Fail a position literally nobody wanted after Brian Cowen and he got it by default, or has he Fritzl-holed a bunch of Fianna Fail leaders' families in order to maintain power? Because that's all that would make sense. Regardless, he could come out this evening and throw the doors open on the country and it would still be met with at best apathy due to his incredible lack of leadership through out the course of his tenure as Taoiseach.

Neamhshuntasach

bennyl10 wrote: »

Morning Ireland news saying inter county by mid April

So can move about the entire country? Don't know why they would increase from 5km next week and then lift completely 2 weeks later.

Keyzer

Sanjuro wrote: »

Micheal Martin is a charisma vacuum. I have never seen such a weasly, insipid man become the leader of a country. Seriously, was the leader of Fianna Fail a position literally nobody wanted after Brian Cowen and he got it by default, or has he Fritzl-holed a bunch of Fianna Fail leaders' families in order to maintain power? Because that's all that would make sense. Regardless, he could come out this evening and throw the doors open on the country and it would still be met with at best apathy due to his incredible lack of leadership through out the course of his tenure as Taoiseach.

True, he's like a really crap bond villain.

I predict the following in terms of easing restrictions tonight:

- 5KM rule to be abolished and replaced with a new 5.1KM rule
- All non-essential retail will be allowed to open on the condition they don't open
- Restrictions on non-essential travel to be abolished. However, all airlines are closed
- Pubs, sadly, will not open but, as a show of solidarity, a slab of dutch gold will be given to every Irish citizen
- House parties are back but, anyone who attends, will be shot dead on arrival

Roll on the good times lads...

Jim_Hodge

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

So can move about the entire country? Don't know why they would increase from 5km next week and then lift completely 2 weeks later.

He got it wrong. RTE said Within County not Inter County.

iamwhoiam

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

So can move about the entire country? Don't know why they would increase from 5km next week and then lift completely 2 weeks later.

Because we are being played like a fiddle .Make them believe they will get nothing then give them a crumb and they will be happy

flanna01

This really is a no win win situation for the Government.

If you consider this thread as the general mindset of the Irish population, then we want restrictions eased, more retail options reopened, and to do otherwise will incur the loss of the publics support.

But, the Government are mere politicians (all brylcreem and teeth as my Father would say).

These guys are not qualified to make judgements on a Viral Pandemic... Hence, they take advise from a science led team of experts.

it's not often I feel pity for the Brylcreen brigade, but their backs are truly against the wall on this occasion.

Ignore Nphet and be directly accused of making a ball's of it again as the numbers surge... Follow Nephet's advice, and be accused of dancing to Donnely's tune all the time.

What strikes me is this....

Everybody in the Country knows the stay safe protocol... Wash the paws, Social distance, Is the journey really essential......

Yet we blame the government everytime the numbers head north..??

What we have here is a blame game culture. Blame anybody but ourselves. It's all their fault....

Unfortunately, the 'Them' is really 'Us'.

DOCARCH

flanna01 wrote: »

If you consider this thread as the general mindset of the Irish population.....

I really don't think so! Tends to be extremes here.

Neamhshuntasach

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Because we are being played like a fiddle .Make them believe they will get nothing then give them a crumb and they will be happy

Actually I think the term inter county was just used wrongly having seen the news article. Inter meaning between and not within.