Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

OwenM

Deleted User wrote: »

That’s the correct approach IMO. Simpler = faster. In the UK, all attempts by various bodies to get priority (police, teachers, transport workers etc) have been rejected

Mike Ryan said it over 15 months ago, good beats perfect.

titan18

cheezums wrote: »

well first of all GAA is a full contact sport, probably just behind rugby in terms of risk.

and most of the country cannot play intercounty GAA.

i would imagine the GAA were pushing other lobby groups out of the way to get in Martin's ear. the same organisation that made an absolute mess of their organizations covid controls before christmas if you recall.

Martin's son plays inter county GAA of course. I'd imagine that helps to get them one of the first back. If his son played tennis, that would probably have been first.

celt262

KrustyUCC wrote: »

True that

They're not going to be happy at all

They will be on Holidays in a few weeks they will be grand.

hmmm

Turtwig wrote: »

I agree with your remarks about public buy in. It's going to be hard sell. Administration wise it's the most efficient. Presuming the supply is seamless and the age groups are moved through swiftly.

I don't know about the hard sell, I think a lot of the misery and despair that many are feeling is because there is no end in sight. For many who aren't in a highly vulnerable group it seems like a vaccine is a million miles away with all this talk of cohorts and various lobbying groups fighting each other.

Being told that we're moving to age cohorts suddenly means everyone can see an end-date in sight, and it's an easy to understand system. No fuming about CEOs handing out vaccines and a perceived "unfairness", just a very simple and easy to understand deployment.

I suspect also that once you get out of the highly vulnerable groups the public is less worried than the media would have you think about groups like teachers being prioritised. People can choose themselves to postpone getting the vaccine if they think others are more deserving.

KrustyUCC

celt262 wrote: »

They will be on Holidays in a few weeks they will be grand.

Getting them back after Easter might be more of an issue though

titan18

seamus wrote: »

This is probably the rationale behind it.

We already introduced cohort 4, which will protect the most vulnerable in all age groups below 65. Which will include any vulnerable people in "essential worker" roles.

I expect cohorts 5 - 8 will still exist and will be prioritised. That is, if you're 18 and in cohort 8 (Long-term care), you will get vaccinated along with the rest of your facility rather than having to wait.

The only thing is that they might reverse the age brackets as the allocation had suggested, so as to vaccinate the most mobile young people. So it'll go

60-69
50-59
16-29
30-39
40-49

I would hope it is a general age band like that if they're doing it, and not all 55 year olds, all 54 year olds etc.

shamco

hmmm wrote: »

I don't know about the hard sell, I think a lot of the misery and despair that many are feeling is because there is no end in sight. For many who aren't in a highly vulnerable group it seems like a vaccine is a million miles away with all this talk of cohorts and various lobbying groups fighting each other.

Being told that we're moving to age cohorts suddenly means everyone can see an end-date in sight, and it's an easy to understand system. No fuming about CEOs handing out vaccines and a perceived "unfairness", just a very simple and easy to understand deployment.

I suspect also that once you get out of the highly vulnerable groups the public is less worried than the media would have you think about groups like teachers being prioritised. People can choose themselves to postpone getting the vaccine if they think others are more deserving.

No scientific basis to the plan. I've followed all the restrictions till now but that's me finished. I will be assessing my own risks from now on.

SleetAndSnow

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1376900271125716996?s=20

Cohort 4 and 7 is opt-in?

shamco

shamco wrote: »

No scientific basis to the plan. I've followed all the restrictions till now but that's me finished. I will be assessing my own risks from now on.

Welcome to the ever growing club!

bennyl10

Does this construction include household retrofit projects?.. or is purely ground up houses?

hmmm

shamco wrote: »

No scientific basis to the plan.

We have to be practical. 250k vaccinations a week at peak, which would require an enormous bureaucracy to identify all the members of various cohorts. Added to which the strongest lobby groups will be the ones to get their members to the front of the queue. I'd vaccinate supermarket workers before teachers for example, but that's never going to happen is it?

bennyineire

titan18 wrote: »

Martin's son plays inter county GAA of course. I'd imagine that helps to get them one of the first back. If his son played tennis, that would probably have been first.

Inter county GAA is an elite sport, elite Soccer started back last week.

The 2 are comparable IMHO

seamus

titan18 wrote: »

I would hope it is a general age band like that if they're doing it, and not all 55 year olds, all 54 year olds etc.

Nah, that would be a mess IMHO. Most individual years would have 100k people or less in them, and we'll be doing 200k+ a week.

And because it's self-signup, the HSE would have to run ads saying, "Next week we are vaccinating people aged 49 and 50. Please go to vaccination.ie and book your vaccination by next Friday". And the following week it's a different ad. Very confusing.

At least, "If you are aged 50 or over on 1st May, you can now book a vaccination", is a bit simpler.

Who knows though.

Sweet.Science

titan18 wrote: »

Martin's son plays inter county GAA of course. I'd imagine that helps to get them one of the first back. If his son played tennis, that would probably have been first.

Jesus still going on about this . Soccer was back 2 weeks ago. He doesn't have a son who plays that.

stephenjmcd

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1376900271125716996?s=20

Cohort 4 and 7 is opt-in?

If they can do them in practice I presume, if not refer onto the hospital clinics

seamus

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

That is the lowest daily and 7-day rate in at least 100 days.

Sweet.Science

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

Wasn't expecting that at all . If it coincides with a ramp up of the vaccine we are sucking diesel

KrustyUCC

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

Excellent stuff

That's the lowest % for months

pauldry

Mihole: "abedebadeba...in terms of numbers..thats just one day...."

mcburns07

That's some drop-off, wasn't expecting that at all.

Eod100

This seems like a political reaction to groups campaigning to be prioritized. Doesn't make sense on public health basis when there is different risks in specific jobs. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1376904289868742662?s=19

Golfman64

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Wasn't expecting that at all . If it coincides with a ramp up of the vaccine we are sucking diesel

Schools off for Easter Break.

Also keeping golf courses closed will help - lol

pauldry

Just need the 9 euro meal now and we will have herd immunity

stephenjmcd

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

That is the lowest daily and 7-day rate in at least 100 days.

Excellent numbers when comparing week on week

Ger Roe

KrustyUCC wrote: »

What mess was that?

Can you point to a single case from GAA matches or training last year?

Not after the match or training but thanks to training or matches themselves

But that's the problem.... if there are no matches or training, there is no 'after' risk. If one activity inevitably leads to another, then it is the cause.

If we could open pubs and make sure they all observed the rules and ensured that people didn't drink in large crowds outside them, we would probably be able to have an acceptable reduced risk activity.

But we can't.

Doctor Jimbob

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

That is the lowest daily and 7-day rate in at least 100 days.

They're clearly inflating the numbers ahead of the announcem... wait a minute.

TheDoctor

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

That is the lowest daily and 7-day rate in at least 100 days.

For the swabbers how does that number of tests compare to previous weeks?

KrustyUCC

Ger Roe wrote: »

But that's the problem.... if there are no matches or training, there is no 'after' risk. If one activity inevitably leads to another, then it is the cause.

If we could open pubs and make sure they all observed the rules and ensured that people didn't drink in large crowds outside them, we would probably be able to have an acceptable reduced risk activity.

But we can't.

Not a direct cause though

With pubs and restaurants closed the rewards of training will outweigh the risks

seamus

seamus wrote: »

385 positive swabs out of 14,729 tests. 2.61%

Fab number. 7-day now at 3.28%

That is the lowest daily and 7-day rate in at least 100 days.

Oh ****, here comes the surge.....

So we’re still going to have a travel restriction that will prevent me from seeing any family or friends...

Suppose it’s to be expected in Europe’s most suppressed nation.