Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

cjyid

[Deleted User] wrote: »

12 weeks left and normality returns.

That, at least, is to be celebrated.

Not with this lot in charge.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

Huh? Must've missed that in the announcement.

In 12-weeks, the number of vaccinations performed will be so enormous in number that we will be in the position of Israel or the UK.

Restrictions will be lifted.

That's true whether MM says it in a speech or not.

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

In 12-weeks, the number of vaccinations performed will be so enormous in number that we will be in the position of Israel or the UK.

Restrictions will be lifted.

That's true whether MM says it in a speech or not.

You said normality returns in 12 weeks which is the 22nd June, but that won't happen. Hospitality won't be reviewed until July and will be opened slowly according to Leo earlier on.

branie2

Good to see the numbers down a good bit again

Jim_Hodge

cjyid wrote: »

Not with this lot in charge.

Ok, besides your psychic ability to see more of the future than they, who have we that would have done anything different?

Much as I abhor the situation we're in, I ,honestly think it would be the same no matter who made up the government

MarkY91

paddyisreal wrote: »

Of course it makes sense, I can hardly break restrictions down here to play 5 a side football when the facilities are all closed. I will probably go to the gym as well.

I didn't know parks were closed

Pussyhands

So apparantly they changed to age based vaccinations because it's too difficult...

But we're gonna have a load of vaccines so why don't they just say "open vaccinations for those in education, then emergency services" etc.?

BlondeBomb

Any mention of gyms?

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

You said normality returns in 12 weeks which is the 22nd June, but that won't happen. Hospitality won't be reviewed until July and will be opened slowly according to Leo earlier on.

I disagree.

Once the effects of the vaccination program leak through, this whole 6-week review process will be thrown to the birds.

There will also be substantial political pressure, too - once the favourable numbers from the vaccination process comes forth.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I disagree.

Once the effects of the vaccination program leak through, this whole 6-week review process will be thrown to the birds.

There will also be substantial political pressure, too - once the favourable numbers from the vaccination process comes forth.

Political pressure from whom? There's no opposition in the Dáil or in the media.

Rodin

CoronaBlocker wrote: »

If someone wants to get fat, sick and die then that's their business. One less pension to pay for the taxpayer. Why fight it?

It's society's business because any health problems have to be dealt with in a public health system.
The spend on obesity is likely to exceed by a multiple any savings on a pension.

KrustyUCC

Leo not convincing about vaccinations by age

Otherwise good performances from him

PTH2009

Deleted User wrote: »

In 12-weeks, the number of vaccinations performed will be so enormous in number that we will be in the position of Israel or the UK.

Restrictions will be lifted.

That's true whether MM says it in a speech or not.

Needed a laugh thanks

paddyisreal

MarkY91 wrote: »

I didn't know parks were closed

I didn't know being pedantic was such a popular hobby for so many here...

paddyisreal

Deleted User wrote: »

I disagree.

Once the effects of the vaccination program leak through, this whole 6-week review process will be thrown to the birds.

There will also be substantial political pressure, too - once the favourable numbers from the vaccination process comes forth.

I agree with what you are saying but remember the variants

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-current-vaccines-could-be-ineffective-in-a-year-or-less-survey-finds-1.4524153

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

12 weeks left and normality returns.

That, at least, is to be celebrated.

Case numbers will still be high but there is no going back Michael McGrath has just stated. Once businesses reopen. They will remain open.

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

I disagree.

Once the effects of the vaccination program leak through, this whole 6-week review process will be thrown to the birds.

There will also be substantial political pressure, too - once the favourable numbers from the vaccination process comes forth.

Well let's come back here on the 22nd June and let's see if we have had a return to normality at that stage. Normality being everything open, no restrictions whatsoever and no masks, no restrictions on travel etc. You reckon this is going to happen??

paddyisreal

Just watching prime time, why is Alan Kelly in limerick? A fair bit outside his 5k

TheDoctor

Gone down to a student party.

paddyisreal

paddyisreal wrote: »

Just watching prime time, why is Alan Kelly in limerick? A fair bit outside his 5k

He's a TD..... Fairly essential role.

Allinall

paddyisreal wrote: »

Just watching prime time, why is Alan Kelly in limerick? A fair bit outside his 5k

He’s working

CruelSummer

Our opposition are useless. Alan Kelly waffling on Prime Time about nothing - trying to blame EU vaccine supply issues on Government, and trying to worm his way out of his Zero Covid stance which he never stopped talking about for the last 3 months.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

Well let's come back here on the 22nd June and let's see if we have had a return to normality at that stage. Normality being everything open, no restrictions whatsoever and no masks, no restrictions on travel etc. You reckon this is going to happen??

No, not that much.

Masks etc. will still be necessary.

A new vaccine will be needed to account for new variants. So the pandemic doesn't suddenly disappear, but I am confident that by the end of June, we will have seen the worst of this pandemic - and the worst of Fianna Fail, more importantly.

That's a sword of Damocles I am willing to hang my opinions under. Let's see what transpires.

paddyisreal

paddyisreal wrote: »

I agree with what you are saying but remember the variants

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-current-vaccines-could-be-ineffective-in-a-year-or-less-survey-finds-1.4524153

Depends whom you ask: https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1375200672182853632

There is an unhealthy obsession with variants in the media.

TheDoctor

Alan Kelly distancing himself from zero covid.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

No, not that much.

Masks etc. will still be necessary.

A new vaccine will be needed to account for new variants. So the pandemic doesn't suddenly disappear, but I am confident that by the end of June, we will have seen the worst of this pandemic - and the worst of Fianna Fail, more importantly.

That's a sword of Damocles I am willing to hang my opinions under. Let's see what transpires.

When do you think masks will go, if ever?

When you say a new vaccine do you mean a booster shot for those who are vulnerable?

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

No, not that much.

Masks etc. will still be necessary.

A new vaccine will be needed to account for new variants. So the pandemic doesn't suddenly disappear, but I am confident that by the end of June, we will have seen the worst of this pandemic - and the worst of Fianna Fail, more importantly.

That's a sword of Damocles I am willing to hang my opinions under. Let's see what transpires.

So we won't have a return to normality in 12 weeks as you claimed: "12 weeks left and normality returns". And now you've changed the goalposts to end of June the worst being over. So which is it, a return to normality or not by end of June?

purplefields

Pussyhands wrote: »

So apparantly they changed to age based vaccinations because it's too difficult...

But we're gonna have a load of vaccines so why don't they just say "open vaccinations for those in education, then emergency services" etc.?

I believe it's because it's just quicker to do it by age.
Teachers etc may well get the vaccine more quickly if the system in general is running more quickly.

We don't want to be stuck in a position wasting weeks developing and operating systems to handle occupations etc, when we could be just vaccinating people.

Better to have many more people vaccinated than a few select groups. (which in itself, will have some protection for these groups)

TheDoctor

Hospital numbers at 8pm

Total 290 (down from 313 last night)
ICU 65 (down from 70 last night - 4 deaths)

Last Tuesday
Total 325
ICU 76

We're under 300!!!

RGS

Just listened to McGrath state NPHET did not want kids training to resume until some undetermined date in may and then for u/13 only.

So much for doctors thinking about the physical health of our children.

At least the government pushed back on this.