Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Messi19

Golfman64 wrote: »

Concern plans to extend hotel quarantine could breach EU citizens’ rights
via The Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/concern-plans-to-extend-hotel-quarantine-could-breach-eu-citizens-rights-1.4525043

Hopefully the beginning of the end of the total madness around international travel. Scary that this is even a possibility...

Why is it a madness? How do you think each of the 3 covid variants got here causing our 3 waves?

Jinglejangle69

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Do you honestly believe those statistics aren't being "massaged" to favour their stance on Schools for the past year?

A friend of mine works as a teacher, she's told me it's been one cover up after another for 12 months now

No I don't believe any of that conspiracy theory stuff.

There is no covering up of anything as they know once this is over every aspect of how it was handled will be scrutinised.

Messi19

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your friend definitely trumps facts.


Since return there has been clear data. In the two weeks to the 30th 270 schools were reported as having cases on the Facebook page tracking this. Last week 257 schools have 6500 tests with less than 2% positive. Show the evidence that they are hiding cases?

Emma O'Kelly did a piece on the news showing that in most cases there were deemed to be no close contacts in most school cases pre Christmas. Clearly they don't treat school cases the same as everywhere else so the clear data is as clear as mud

TheDoctor

Hospital numbers at 8pm

Total 272 (down from 290 last night)
ICU 64 (down from 65 last night - 1 death)

Good decrease so far this week - 331 in hospital at 8am Monday morning.

Last Wednesday
Total 325
ICU 76

giveitholly

So only yesterday MM stated there would be 1 million doses administered in April,a day later and that is revised down to 860,000. You couldn't make it up

cameramonkey

Approx 10% of the traveller population have tested positive for covid. If that was repeated in the general population that would be about 500,000 confirmed cases.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377329765175197698/photo/1

JP Liz V1

A website allowing for everyone to register for a Covid vaccine will be available within two or three weeks, the Taoiseach has told the Dáil.

The portal will be available to allow everyone to apply from mid-April or the third week of next month, Micheál Martin told Deputies.

He said the aim was to have 80 per cent of the population vaccinated by the end of June, and not just offered the vaccine.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/everyone-will-be-able-to-register-for-their-vaccine-jab-on-new-online-portal-by-third-week-of-april-taoiseach-40260994.html

Happydays2020

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

A website allowing for everyone to register for a Covid vaccine will be available within two or three weeks, the Taoiseach has told the Dáil.

The portal will be available to allow everyone to apply from mid-April or the third week of next month, Micheál Martin told Deputies.

He said the aim was to have 80 per cent of the population vaccinated by the end of June, and not just offered the vaccine.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/everyone-will-be-able-to-register-for-their-vaccine-jab-on-new-online-portal-by-third-week-of-april-taoiseach-40260994.html

1 shot or 2?

Happydays2020

cameramonkey wrote: »

Approx 10% of the traveller population have tested positive for covid. If that was repeated in the general population that would be about 500,000 confirmed cases.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377329765175197698/photo/1

I expect not far off that. There was a good chunk infected back in March and April 2020. And probably December and January also.

darem93

giveitholly wrote: »

So only yesterday MM stated there would be 1 million doses administered in April,a day later and that is revised down to 860,000. You couldn't make it up

They have missed literally every single target they have set. But continue to "hold firm" guys!!!!

giveitholly

darem93 wrote: »

They have missed literally every single target they have set. But continue to "hold firm" guys!!!!

And wait until the May and June targets are not met either

TheDoctor

giveitholly wrote: »

And wait until the May and June targets are not met either

Hold firmer

giveitholly

TheDoctor wrote: »

Hold firmer

The next 5 months are crucial

darem93

giveitholly wrote: »

And wait until the May and June targets are not met either

Oh 100%, it's the one thing we can be sure of that those targets will be missed too. And the target for April will also magically get lower as each week passes.

Stormyteacup

Messi19 wrote: »

Emma O'Kelly did a piece on the news showing that in most cases there were deemed to be no close contacts in most school cases pre Christmas. Clearly they don't treat school cases the same as everywhere else so the clear data is as clear as mud

Exactly. But a Facebook page ‘tracking data’ re school transmission is definitive in analysis? Garbage in = garbage out.

hotmail.com

Martina1991 wrote: »

Over 4 million tests completed to date.

About 500,000 processed a month now.

4 million tests is a failure.

podgeandrodge

"THE HEAD OF the HSE has urged the public to “hold firm” over Covid-19 restriction measures.

Paul Reid, chief executive of the HSE, acknowledged that the public are worried about jobs and bills, but added that there “are bright days ahead”.

He made the comments as the number of patients with Covid-19 in hospitals continues to fall.

Recent figures show that by yesterday, 298 patients with coronavirus were admitted to 29 hospitals across the state.

In a tweet Reid said: “Like many people, today I feel for my family and friends who are worried about their jobs, are anxious over bills and are feeling stress.

“I miss our family and our grand daughter abroad. There is lots of help out there though and there are bright days ahead. Hold firm.”

May 2020.

TheDoctor

podgeandrodge wrote: »

"THE HEAD OF the HSE has urged the public to “hold firm” over Covid-19 restriction measures.

Paul Reid, chief executive of the HSE, acknowledged that the public are worried about jobs and bills, but added that there “are bright days ahead”.

He made the comments as the number of patients with Covid-19 in hospitals continues to fall.

Recent figures show that by yesterday, 298 patients with coronavirus were admitted to 29 hospitals across the state.

In a tweet Reid said: “Like many people, today I feel for my family and friends who are worried about their jobs, are anxious over bills and are feeling stress.

“I miss our family and our grand daughter abroad. There is lots of help out there though and there are bright days ahead. Hold firm.”

May 2020.

Nice twist at the end.

5 stars

techdiver

More good vaccine news...

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1377383798850002944?s=19

hmmm

Well if you're going to put an IT system together in a rush this sort of thing will happen.

Roll on the age based cohorts. Simpler, easy to understand, less open to abuse.

Dickie10

hospital numbers begining to drop like a stone the last week to 10 days, thats factoring in paddys day. that should be coming through by now in figures , only 64 in ICU tonight. shows vaccines are working. for the first time ever , NYPHET and the gang are right, if we keep this tight for 6 weeks and everyone lets easter come and go , by end of may we have all over 60s vaxxed, you will see tiny hospital numbers and noone in ICU. then open things up

hotmail.com

hmmm wrote: »

Well if you're going to put an IT system together in a rush this sort of thing will happen.

Roll on the age based cohorts. Simpler, easy to understand, less open to abuse.

The occupation argument is over now, I hope. Sinn Fein trying to make capital from it has been terrible.

hotmail.com

hmmm wrote: »

Well if you're going to put an IT system together in a rush this sort of thing will happen.

Roll on the age based cohorts. Simpler, easy to understand, less open to abuse.

The occupation argument is over now, I hope. Sinn Fein trying to make capital from it has been terrible.

Leftwaffe

hmmm wrote: »

Well if you're going to put an IT system together in a rush this sort of thing will happen.

Roll on the age based cohorts. Simpler, easy to understand, less open to abuse.

This is obviously the reason why they’ve implemented the age-based vaccination programme, because they made a total boll*x of the other way.

Knew it was something dodgy, nothing at all to do with this jargon that politicians have been spitting all day.

Turtwig

Obviously it will depend on what's revealed.
It was pretty self evident the HSE would be vaccinating anyone on any sort of their payrolls.
Stratification by frontline, patient contacts, key roles would have taken ages.

The discussions taking place today have given me the feeling that many would rather to have the vaccine distribution in perfect order than administer the vaccine.

If the time taken to prioritise tasks is longer than doing the actual task then just do the tasks.

So, yeah going to say it. I've no problem with a hse employee who's working from home getting the jab. Fine tuning eligibility to that ridiculous degree would have delayed the key staff in getting theirs.

MrMusician18

hmmm wrote: »

Well if you're going to put an IT system together in a rush this sort of thing will happen.

Roll on the age based cohorts. Simpler, easy to understand, less open to abuse.

There is simply no way to verify credentials in a hurry, is a simple case of either choosing speed or accuracy, and I guess speed was deemed more important. It was hoped also that people wouldn't abuse such a system. Such belief in civic mindedness is at best naive, we do after all live in a country full of selfish pricks. If the past year has thought me anything, it's that.

It must surely be an offence to misrepresent yourself to the state. Anyone that made a false declaration to skip the queue should be punished and punished severely, like €5k min fines severe.

TheDriver

Leftwaffe wrote: »

This is obviously the reason why they’ve implemented the age-based vaccination programme, because they made a total boll*x of the other way.

Knew it was something dodgy, nothing at all to do with this jargon that politicians have been spitting all day.

It's just a pity this wasn't presented and explained truthfully rather than a quick decision made that has the look of broken promises for non healthcare front line workers.

h2005

So did they build a new system from scratch for the vaccination program or are they utilising an existing system?

Van.Bosch

Turtwig wrote: »

Obviously it will depend on what's revealed.
It was pretty self evident the HSE would be vaccinating anyone on any sort of their payrolls.
Stratification by frontline, patient contacts, key roles would have taken ages.

The discussions taking place today have given me the feeling that many would rather to have the vaccine distribution in perfect order than administer the vaccine.

If the time taken to prioritise tasks is longer than doing the actual task then just do the tasks.

So, yeah going to say it. I've no problem with a hse employee who's working from home getting the jab. Fine tuning eligibility to that ridiculous degree would have delayed the key staff in getting theirs.

My read of it, and hopefully I’m wrong, is that people in the general public, were able to access and get jabs.

Edit: re read it, I’m wrong thankfully.

h2005

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There is simply no way to verify credentials in a hurry, is a simple case of either choosing speed or accuracy, and I guess speed was deemed more important. It was hoped also that people wouldn't abuse such a system. Such belief in civic mindedness is at best naive, we do after all live in a country full of selfish pricks. If the past year has thought me anything, it's that.

Depends very much on who had access. Surely most staff have ID and a staff number?