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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    If Israel cases start to increase, we're screwed.

    I don't think cases matter in Israel at this stage, hospitalisations and deaths are the ones to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,719 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    If Israel cases start to increase, we're screwed.

    NPHET will still want lockdown for other reasons like getting the hospital waiting lists down for other diseases

    If that happens I hope we all lose our ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Funny how most posters with new accounts come across as miserable, scaremongering twats. Covid and its many “scariants” aren’t really the biggest concern now, bitter fooks who spread false information are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭Qrt


    Personally I think forget EP. Focus on getting to daily normality, like being able to go for a meal, and getting students back on our college campuses. I can wait a while longer for live events, I just want to get back on campus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio



    Remember the virus will mutate to survive vaccines, just like flu does. As more and more people get it, so will the mutations increase. We could end up with multiple new variants a year. How will vaccines keep up with that?

    The same way the flu vaccine doees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,668 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭emo72


    Consider that.

    Always worrying when it'll be your turn, and if you'll get long covid, or even die.
    If it goes on for years, then life expectancy goes down. You might be okay getting it in your 20s, but maybe not your 70s or 80s.

    Then waiting for the next nasty new variant. Maybe something that kills young people (Spanish flu second wave?)

    Remember the virus will mutate to survive vaccines, just like flu does. As more and more people get it, so will the mutations increase. We could end up with multiple new variants a year. How will vaccines keep up with that?

    This virus will spread when the carrier is asymptomatic. So it is less like to evolve into something benign.

    This is why governments across the globe are terrified of this. Why we have such stringent lockdowns.


    What a post.
    What is the point in anything.
    The virus is going to get us.
    And destroy us.
    We're all going to die, so let's lockdown forever
    It's the best way to crush the virus
    Is too hide in our caves forever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭Polar101


    marno21 wrote: »
    Music festivals are part of normality. Most people want them back. By the time EP comes along, Ireland will have received in excess of 8 million doses of vaccine.

    5 months till Electric Picnic, sounds doable. Whether the organiser wants to take a chance and book performers is another thing, but sooner or later live events will be back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Normal One


    Polar101 wrote: »
    5 months till Electric Picnic, sounds doable. Whether the organiser wants to take a chance and book performers is another thing, but sooner or later live events will be back.

    It isn't going to happen. Festivals are a massive logistical operation, 99% of the work would need to be done already were it to go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭prunudo


    No it shouldn't what about new variants or what if there's unvaccinated people there? It's way to soon to be thinking of music shows or anything like that

    If you really are a Dutch boy, you should look at how proactive your government are about getting back to normal with regards to concerts and mass gatherings from this summer on. They're also looking at allowing some audience members into the Eurovision song contest as a trial to guage effects from large gatherings.


  • Posts: 513 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Spot on, I've found over the last year that the ones that are so quick to label people doom mongers for even wanting to discuss possibilities, are the ones that are basically sticking their fingers in their ears saying "lalalalalala". It's easy to just thinly veil it in "but think of the economy". When the reality is that it's incredibly complex issue that isn't just binary, and discussing long covid or agreeing with measures does not equal an opinion of "lock up forever."

    Ahhhh but the good old early days in covid threads when the hard chaws used to say people who were not chilled out like them were probably masturbating with nettles or even barbed wire were fun though, weren' they? Innocent oul lyrical times :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ahhhh but the good old early days in covid threads when the hard chaws used to say people who were not chilled out like them were probably masturbating with nettles or even barbed wire were fun though, weren' they? Innocent oul lyrical times :)
    Did this ever really happen? By the sounds of this you were using mind enhancing substances!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Never mind different covid variants. What about a completely new virus?! We need to stay at least at level 4 just in case. Probably indefinitely.


  • Posts: 513 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Did this ever really happen? By the sounds of this you were using mind enhancing substances!

    1. Absolutely did, it was a recurring thing and 2. I wish I had the constitution for them!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Consider that.

    Always worrying when it'll be your turn, and if you'll get long covid, or even die.
    If it goes on for years, then life expectancy goes down. You might be okay getting it in your 20s, but maybe not your 70s or 80s.

    Then waiting for the next nasty new variant. Maybe something that kills young people (Spanish flu second wave?)

    Remember the virus will mutate to survive vaccines, just like flu does. As more and more people get it, so will the mutations increase. We could end up with multiple new variants a year. How will vaccines keep up with that?

    This virus will spread when the carrier is asymptomatic. So it is less like to evolve into something benign.

    This is why governments across the globe are terrified of this. Why we have such stringent lockdowns.


    This posts reads like 5 different twitter posts in one.

    It also reads like something one of the zero covid ISAG scaremongers would say.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Remember the virus will mutate to survive vaccines, just like flu does. As more and more people get it, so will the mutations increase. We could end up with multiple new variants a year. How will vaccines keep up with that?

    This virus will spread when the carrier is asymptomatic. So it is less like to evolve into something benign.

    That's not really how evolution works. While the end result may be the same as what you've said, it doesn't evolve to do something. An evolutionary trait is simply a mistake that happens to be useful and sticks around. A mistake that beats a vaccine is still a mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    I can’t find any discussion about this anywhere? Deserves the bullet over this alone.

    https://twitter.com/hughescraig90/status/1377750127272660995?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Do you want to point out what part of my post you disagree with?

    Like in a normal adult conversation?

    It’s easy to dismiss and or rubbish something when you have not encountered it in your own life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    I can’t find any discussion about this anywhere? Deserves the bullet over this alone.

    https://twitter.com/hughescraig90/status/1377750127272660995?s=21

    Not another April 1st by any chance ...

    Similar to the vaccination booking system in NI - where people here were booking themselves in and arriving at vaccination centres there.

    That loophole was quickly closed down by the healthboards there. I think the lesson is where there's people - there will be those who try and exploit the system regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭snotboogie



    It's way to early to make any conclusions on Chile. They have been vaccinating between 0.9 and 1.6 per 100 per day, this is even faster than Israel. Needs time for the vaccines to take effect. Right now Chile are below 60 per 100, Israel only really saw their fall in cases when they got to 90 per 100. Also I've seen charts that show younger people are driving the surge in cases there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Story about celebs ending up in Australia, including our own refugee Matt Damon. Needless to say some of the 40,000 normal stranded Aussies are not happy about it.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55851074


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭User1998


    Qrt wrote: »
    Personally I think forget EP. Focus on getting to daily normality, like being able to go for a meal, and getting students back on our college campuses. I can wait a while longer for live events, I just want to get back on campus.

    Why forget about EP if 80% of the adult population will be vaccinated 3 months prior to the festival commencing? Thats fine if you want to get back on campus but some people want something to look forward to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Never mind different covid variants. What about a completely new virus?! We need to stay at least at level 4 just in case. Probably indefinitely.

    Yeah that line is getting old at this stage.

    #Need new material ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    User1998 wrote: »
    Why forget about EP if 80% of the adult population will be vaccinated 3 months prior to the festival commencing? Thats fine if you want to get back on campus but some people want something to look forward to

    The aim (not a guarantee!) is for 80% of adults to have had ONE dose by the end of June (2 months before EP).

    EP is pie in the sky to be honest. Vaccinated or not, any test events for large crowds will be matches and seated concerts, not uncontrolled crowds (in the sense of moving around) in what’s not necessarily being the most sanitary environment in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    prunudo wrote: »
    If you really are a Dutch boy, you should look at how proactive your government are about getting back to normal with regards to concerts and mass gatherings from this summer on. They're also looking at allowing some audience members into the Eurovision song contest as a trial to guage effects from large gatherings.

    Yeah the only way I could see Electric Picnic happening would be with government backing but they'd to give that backing very soon. Unfortunately I can't see that happening. Other countries are trying a few social experiments but not a budge out of our lads, too much hard work for them. And to be honest I think the public would give out stink here if they did try, the covid hysteria here seems unmatched anywhere else in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    I can’t find any discussion about this anywhere? Deserves the bullet over this alone.
    Bit harsh tbh.
    Even without reading any further into it, I can imagine why he may not pull it straight away - because they had no other way for frontline workers to register.

    So a loads of cvnts skip the queue by abusing the system; not great, but not a disaster either. They would get jabbed eventually anyway.

    If he tells them to take it down, some might lose out. If he goes public and appeals for people not to abuse it, then he's just drawing attention to it.

    Most likely he said, "Look, we're going to change things up anyway, leave it till the end of next week and then take it down".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,628 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Do hospitals discharge on a public holiday? Or will we see a steady climb of hospitalisations over the weekend again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    France has discovered a variant that can’t be picked up by current pcr test.


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