Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

scamalert

good point from that doc people brainwashed, risk vs reward ratio gone out of window so is the logic of most.

corcaigh07

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any idea when intercounty travel will be back? I have a hotel stay booked for late June. Thanks.

My prediction is just after the June Bank Holiday.

LuckyLloyd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, no, and no. I don't know how to be more clear.

People and businesses can make their own assessments and act accordingly. A business that decides to enforce social distancing and mask-wearing on its premises is going to attract some people for those reasons, and those people may be willing to pay a premium for those features. Other people will be put off by those rules. The same applies to businesses that decide not to enforce any particular covid rules.

Healthy people in their twenties will probably be as alright risking Covid as they previously were risking flu or mono or a bad cold. Healthy people in their twenties who live with a member of a vulnerable group will have additional considerations.

Unvaccinated people in their thirties with aggravating conditions might choose to go to the establishments that enforce distancing.

Unvaccinated people in their sixties with aggravating conditions might choose to forego social/public activities until a few weeks after their second dose of vaccine. Or they might decide to go to a rave with twenty-year-olds and get hammered. Whose business is it if the health system is holding up?

The transmissibility of the virus (particularly the predominant British variant) renders this position a complete non starter. Leaving aside the epidemiological irresponsibility of allowing it to rip through large cohorts of the adult population unfettered. Personal responsibility doesn’t work for this one.

Your position is utterly extreme, I hope you understand that.

KrustyUCC

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/international/20210427-no-sign-of-infection-after-barcelona-covid-concert-trial-say-organisers-culture-events

Indoor concert goes well

They also served alcohol

Better not tell Tony

KrustyUCC

corcaigh07 wrote: »

My prediction is just after the June Bank Holiday.

I'd take that

Some of the leaks over the last few days are now saying July

Sobit1964

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The transmissibility of the virus (particularly the predominant British variant) renders this position a complete non starter. Leaving aside the epidemiological irresponsibility of allowing it to rip through large cohorts of the adult population unfettered. Personal responsibility doesn’t work for this one.

Your position is utterly extreme, I hope you understand that.

Can you explain in considerably more detail what might make this position 'extreme'?

Multipass

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The transmissibility of the virus (particularly the predominant British variant) renders this position a complete non starter. Leaving aside the epidemiological irresponsibility of allowing it to rip through large cohorts of the adult population unfettered. Personal responsibility doesn’t work for this one.

Your position is utterly extreme, I hope you understand that.

As opposed to locking down the entire country for the best part of a year - that’s not utterly extreme?

Zebra3

One million people vaccinated and the country still in L5.

Who would’ve believed that during the winter?

And the cheerleaders demanding it goes on....

Penfailed

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Can you explain in considerably more detail what might make this position 'extreme'?

He's one of the only people on this thread that advocates opening everything up with no mitigating measures. That's extreme.

ypres5

Penfailed wrote: »

He's one of the only people on this thread that advocates opening everything up with no mitigating measures. That's extreme.

Well the people on other end of the spectrum have had the run of the country this past year and there's still no end in sight so I don't blame him for wanting things to open asap

The Big Easy

Penfailed wrote: »

He's one of the only people on this thread that advocates opening everything up with no mitigating measures. That's extreme.

What exactly is vaccination, if not a mitigating factor?

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

He's one of the only people on this thread that advocates opening everything up with no mitigating measures. That's extreme.

As I said; this would not happen.

No government-mandated mitigating measures is not the same thing as "let 'er rip".

The idea that the second Big Daddy Government lifts the foot an inch everyone and their dog from every demographic is going to be cramming into the most packed venue they can find to suck tongues is pure fantasy. And insulting to the Irish public.

Coillte_Bhoy

Multipass wrote: »

As opposed to locking down the entire country for the best part of a year - that’s not utterly extreme?

That certainly would be an extreme measure but thankfully nothing like that actually happened.

Doctor Jimbob

Zebra3 wrote: »

One million people vaccinated and the country still in L5.

Who would’ve believed that during the winter?

And the cheerleaders demanding it goes on....

It's just to protect the health service... but we have the lowest numbers in hospital since October.

It's just to protect the elderly...but they're almost all at least partially vaccinated.

It's just because of the variants...but the vaccine works on them too.

Where did we leave those goalposts?

Coillte_Bhoy

Zebra3 wrote: »

One million people vaccinated and the country still in L5.

Who would’ve believed that during the winter?

And the cheerleaders demanding it goes on....

Really? Thats news to me and many more i would think

PTH2009

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/international/20210427-no-sign-of-infection-after-barcelona-covid-concert-trial-say-organisers-culture-events

Indoor concert goes well

They also served alcohol

Better not tell Tony

but but but the VARIANTS esp the ones yet to be discovered

This is great news for the Entertainment industry, not so much in Ireland as European science doesn't cut it here and our lads know more

growleaves

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

That certainly would be an extreme measure but thankfully nothing like that actually happened.

We've had three lockdowns totalling 9 months over the previous 13 months.

Zebra3

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Really? Thats news to me and many more i would think

Well try to keep up with the news then.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations

One million mark would’ve been easily passed by now.

Corholio

Zebra3 wrote: »

Well try to keep up with the news then.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations

One million mark would’ve been easily passed by now.

I think the 'not fully vaccinated' card is being played.

The Big Easy

Zebra3 wrote: »

Well try to keep up with the news then.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations

One million mark would’ve been easily passed by now.

Jeez, Pfizer really are a great bunch of lads, let's hope they can keep it up!

ypres5

Corholio wrote: »

I think the 'not fully vaccinated' card is being played.

I guess when you've no longer got an argument worth a curse you resort to being pedantic, as can be seen there.

Don't Chute!

The Big Easy wrote: »

Jeez, Pfizer really are a great bunch of lads, let's hope they can keep it up!

I see what you did there!

FintanMcluskey

Zebra3 wrote: »

One million people vaccinated and the country still in L5.

Who would’ve believed that during the winter?

And the cheerleaders demanding it goes on....

The lockdown must continue due to the variants that don’t exist that the vaccine might not work on

A long way from “buy the health service time”

leanin2019

Forgive me if its been discussed already.

Anybody know if the gyms are opening soon? Im anxiously awaiting Thursdays announcement in relation to this specifically. Tks

Stheno

leanin2019 wrote: »

Forgive me if its been discussed already.

Anybody know if the gyms are opening soon? Im anxiously awaiting Thursdays announcement in relation to this specifically. Tks

has not been mentioned, so assume no

KrustyUCC

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

normanoffside

leanin2019 wrote: »

Forgive me if its been discussed already.

Anybody know if the gyms are opening soon? Im anxiously awaiting Thursdays announcement in relation to this specifically. Tks

No chance, too many variants lurking around the Gyms.

growleaves

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The lockdown must continue due to the variants that don’t exist that the vaccine might not work on

A long way from “buy the health service time”

There might be an outbreak in Siam or Rangoon.

Let's impose crippling trade embargoes on our country.

Sharpyshoot

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

You won’t be allowed fly. The sooner you accept to write off 2021 the better.

Chris_5339762

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

mmm no thanks I'd rather keep my hard earned money and spend it next year on a nice holiday to an EU destination where there will be sun and a nice hotel and some nice food.

normanoffside

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

Do journalists have hidden cameras and microphones at these party meetings or is one of the TDs just live streaming them the meetings?

PTH2009

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

Jesus what a joke

A few of us have a trip to Cork booked for just before the Aug bank holiday and as you said chances are slim enough now

normanoffside

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

You won’t be allowed fly. The sooner you accept to write off 2021 the better.

You'll be allowed to, you'll just be encouraged not to.

FlubberJones

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

The cheeky slag, not only keeping us in this desolation but trying to get us to spend here too... well he can f*ck right off.. my hard earned and saved is going somewhere worthwhile.

Stheno

normanoffside wrote: »

Do journalists have hidden cameras and microphones at these party meetings or is one of the TDs just live streaming them the meetings?

wasn't there a tweet ages ago that showed Gavin Reilly I think live streaming something from the Dail and getting whatsapps from Leo?

Necro

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1387127260663136258

I'd like to however it seems that my chances of a staycation even in Mid July are getting slimmer by the day according to the latest leaks

Think I'll need to wait for a foreign holiday later on in the year

That's a bit nuts, I hope they loosen outdoor restrictions significantly for May, there's no reason not to given current hospital numbers (case numbers are irrelevant as the hospital numbers continue to fall).

I've something booked myself for the first week of July (rescheduled from last year) and am kinda getting concerned about it now when I wasn't a few weeks ago.

Don't get the fear they have in loosening outdoor stuff at the very least

FintanMcluskey

growleaves wrote: »

There might be an outbreak in Siam or Rangoon.

Let's impose crippling trade embargoes on our country.

That’s what this is now

The danger has passed in Ireland, only an anti vaccer would say other wise

Almost 1 million citizens have dose 1 got that provides excellent protection from serious illness

NPHEt in the latest letter mentioned variants that the vaccine might not work on

There’s no way out, at least not until the current metrics used for continuing to implement restrictions changes

And NPHET are removed and charged for the damage they caused our country

KrustyUCC

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jesus what a joke

A few of us have a trip to Cork booked for just before the Aug bank holiday and as you said chances are slim enough now

I'd say you'll be OK for August as the Dail will be on holidays so they'll want things open

mightyreds

FlubberJones wrote: »

The cheeky slag, not only keeping us in this desolation but trying to get us to spend here too... well he can f*ck right off.. my hard earned and saved is going somewhere worthwhile.

Spend 900 euro on a hotel room you have to sit in for the week, un-mandatory quarantine

RGS

I see leinster rugby have been refused permission to hold a test event with 2000 fans in the RDS.

.https://www.the42.ie/leinster-rugby-proposal-or-safe-return-of-fans-5421679-Apr2021/

We really are led by donkeys. Scared of their own shadows.

This match would have been an ideal test to trial the return of fans but level 5 we cant do it.

Interesting the response indicate only level 1 and 2 allow fans, so who believes fans will be allowed at the all Ireland finals in August. I dont see it happening.

Whatsisname

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/international/20210427-no-sign-of-infection-after-barcelona-covid-concert-trial-say-organisers-culture-events

Indoor concert goes well

They also served alcohol

Better not tell Tony

I'm a huge gig goer, its probably what I miss most from pre-covid life but I have absolutely no interest in ever attending one where masks are required. Especially when everyone at risk has been vaccinated.

Stheno

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=20

leanin2019

leanin2019 wrote: »

Forgive me if its been discussed already.

Anybody know if the gyms are opening soon? Im anxiously awaiting Thursdays announcement in relation to this specifically. Tks

normanoffside wrote: »

No chance, too many variants lurking around the Gyms.

Various variants of weights, machines and cardio equipment.

Numerous variants of body shapes and size.

Wide range of music genre variants.

KrustyUCC

RGS wrote: »

I see leinster rugby have been refused permission to hold a test event with 2000 fans in the RDS.

.https://www.the42.ie/leinster-rugby-proposal-or-safe-return-of-fans-5421679-Apr2021/

We really are led by donkeys. Scared of their own shadows.

This match would have been an ideal test to trial the return of fans but level 5 we cant do it.

Interesting the response indicate only level 1 and 2 allow fans, so who believes fans will be allowed at the all Ireland finals in August. I dont see it happening.

Ha some joke

KrustyUCC

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=20

That sounds bit more positive

No point focusing on them in June unless they have indoor dining at hotels

PTH2009

I'm guessing were not getting a new roadmap and a lot of industries will once again be told 'sit tight we may review the reopening situation at the end of the month (May) but for the moment hold firm and use the financial supports '

titan18

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That sounds bit more positive

No point focusing on them in June unless they have indoor dining at hotels

Nothing about gyms in that either. Kind of fearful this outdoor summer will mean not even gyms or cinemas reopen.

Multipass

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=20

Why is he telling his colleagues? How about the fool actually tells it straight to the country he governs

KrustyUCC

That sounds like the government alright

Sammy2012

Anyone have any idea when kids indoor activities will be allowed back? Like dance classes etc...if my kids can spend 6 hours a day in school I can't understand why they can't go to dance for an hour in the evening. Sports being back is great but there are other things kids do also.