Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

gmisk

No MM fan but....I thought he spoke quite well

Dempo1

Positive news but typically convoluted, ironic 474 more cases and 3 deaths announced as the Taoiseach spoke so whilst hospitalisation down, numbers of new cases not so down.

I don't get these various permissions as to who can visit another person's house, it's a nonsense and besides who monitors this.

I'm sure pubs and restaurants thrilled at the notion of out door service, they might get a few weeks of decent weather. The pronouncement by the HSE of 250k Vacinnes next week is probably fantasy, but we'll see.

Salons and barber's by appointment? Yeah, that's really going to happen and of course salons & barber's will turn away those naughty clients who haven't booked.

So hard to know, hard to see what's going to happen but with that mysterious and quite frankly nonsensical notion of €15 billion in personal savings waiting to be spent, I'm sure the economy will be fine, I've just ordered a Rolex myself (NOT)

Itssoeasy

Aviation person on radio not at all happy with what was announced. He can’t understand why there isn’t a roadmap for them as an industry.

PTH2009

Disappointed we don't have a 'real plan' for post June only the usual 'we'll see'

castletownman

Gyms and swimming pools opening the same day as outdoor hospitality.

I know what activity I'll be pursuing.

Swimming.....in pints.

Dempo1

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Aviation person on radio not at all happy with what was announced. He can’t understand why there isn’t a roadmap for them as an industry.

It wasn't Michael O Leary by any chance

Itssoeasy

Oh the same aviation person(airline ceo) took a less than vailed shot at eamonn Ryan.

gmisk

greensausage wrote: »

Any sign of indoor pints??

Yes spotted coming soon to Northern Ireland...(24th may)

Itssoeasy

Dempo1 wrote: »

It wasn't Michael O Leary by any chance

No.

py2006

retro:electro wrote: »

Now we just need to stop with the obsessive reporting of case numbers every day and we’re away with it

I don't believe them numbers anymore

Vital Transformation

When do people reckon mandatory mask wearing in shops/public transport/indoor areas etc will end?

_Kaiser_

Publican here putting the reality on the outdoor only stuff. Running his pub on the basis of 20 customers just won't be worth it for him and many others I'd say.

_Kaiser_

Vital Transformation wrote: »

When do people reckon mandatory mask wearing in shops/public transport/indoor areas etc will end?

That'll likely be among the last to go unfortunately.

KrustyUCC

Martin was a bit more confident that speech

I have been an avid traveller, have visited all 7 continents, but I feel a lot of serious travel is going to off the cards for several reasons for another year or two. Like a lot, have had to cancel many trips during this pandemic. The peculiar thing is I have almost come to dread the thought of being in busy airports again, I can't imagine myself being able for it again. I feel I might be dipping my toes again by booking on board a small commuter type airplane to, eg, UK, where I won't be standing as much in long queues. Or maybe taking the ferry. It's a really strange thing for me to admit this.

Any mention of cinemas or funfairs opening?

gozunda

Necro wrote: »

Honestly think a weekly update* is all that's required. Case numbers are largely irrelevant and have been for about two months now since the vulnerable were getting vaccinated properly.

Hospital and ICU numbers are the key, even when we have 80% vaccinated at some point in the future there will likely be cases.

Give NPHET a Tuesday evening each week to give the weekly figures and that's all they get

*Of course the media would be up in arms not being able to report their daily dose of doom so it likely won't happen

To be honest I find the case numbers fairly interesting. Especially on a regional level. It makes for interesting reading as to the behaviour of the virus in what is in effect a fairly homogeneous country. (Dublin excepted )

That said I dont understand why people take the media headlines as gospel and get worked up/ outraged on the basis of whats published.. Most have some basis of truth but a lot more are pure fluff. Maybe we need anti media goggles issued to everyone :pac:

Pitch n Putt

Vital Transformation wrote: »

When do people reckon mandatory mask wearing in shops/public transport/indoor areas etc will end?

ASAP hopefully. Most useless of things introduced during the whole shambles. I’d imagine be February 2022 unfortunately.

Dempo1

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Publican here putting the reality on the outdoor only stuff. Running his pub on the basis of 20 customers just won't be worth it for him and many others I'd say.

The same can be said for restaurants also, just not viable

Balmed Out

Did they mention when kids can play matches? Help coaching and they ask me every night can they have a practice match, high fiving and arm in arm all over but can only do drills.

Itssoeasy

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Publican here putting the reality on the outdoor only stuff. Running his pub on the basis of 20 customers just won't be worth it for him and many others I'd say.

Well that’s it. It’s not wet or dry pubs it’s indoor and outdoor. I mean non of the pubs have any room outdoor and what they do it’s barely worth it.

Necro

Vital Transformation wrote: »

When do people reckon mandatory mask wearing in shops/public transport/indoor areas etc will end?

Honestly? Probably not till spring of next year at the minimum I would say. Social Distancing and mask wearing will probably be the last restrictions removed.

Itssoeasy

Necro wrote: »

Honestly? Probably not till spring of next year at the minimum I would say. Social Distancing and mask wearing will probably be the last restrictions removed.

Do you mean here or in general ?

Dempo1

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Martin was a bit more confident that speech

Not sure he had the same expression on his face as Steven Martin in dirty rotten scoundrels, when Michael Caine testing feelings in his legs

https://youtu.be/14nilke-mtQ

Itssoeasy

Mary Lou was asked was there anything she wasn’t happy with from the announcement and she said no.

_Kaiser_

Balmed Out wrote: »

Did they mention when kids can play matches? Help coaching and they ask me every night can they have a practice match, high fiving and arm in arm all over but can only do drills.

June 7th I think.. no crowds allowed though.

JRant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have been an avid traveller, have visited all 7 continents, but I feel a lot of serious travel is going to off the cards for several reasons for another year or two. Like a lot, have had to cancel many trips during this pandemic. The peculiar thing is I have almost come to dread the thought of being in busy airports again, I can't imagine myself being able for it again. I feel I might be dipping my toes again by booking on board a small commuter type airplane to, eg, UK, where I won't be standing as much in long queues. Or maybe taking the ferry. It's a really strange thing for me to admit this.

I know a few people who've had to travel for essential work reasons and they all say it's a gift at the moment. Empty airports and planes, no stress queuing. A completely different experience.

Necro

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Do you mean here or in general ?

In general but I doubt they'll drop mask wearing for this winter here in Ireland personally.

is_that_so

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No.

Was it the DAA guy? He's been vocal of late.

Necro

Balmed Out wrote: »

Did they mention when kids can play matches? Help coaching and they ask me every night can they have a practice match, high fiving and arm in arm all over but can only do drills.

Yeah as Kaiser said 7th June for matches. Crowds not allowed till July 5th though.

Balmed Out

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

June 7th I think.. no crowds allowed though.

Matches definitely june 7th but see no mention as to whether contact in training allowed beforehand.

Dempo1

Press conference on now, Leo expecting an economic boom, all those billions to be spent, delusional.

I think we've been spared Eaomon Ryan at the press conference, thank god

Dempo1

Necro wrote: »

In general but I doubt they'll drop mask wearing for this winter here in Ireland personally.

I agree, infact I think a large section of society will continue to wear face masks

_Kaiser_

Balmed Out wrote: »

Matches definitely june 7th but see no mention as to whether contact in training allowed beforehand.

According to the RTE graphic "team sports training" is May 10th

Itssoeasy

is_that_so wrote: »

Was it the DAA guy? He's been vocal of late.

No it was an airline CEO and I can’t remember his name. I’ll have to check on the listen back.

Even independent TD Michael Collins is sounding upbeat on the radio. It seems politicians across the board are trying to keep the positive mood.

Itssoeasy

Dempo1 wrote: »

I agree, infact I think a large section of society will continue to wear face masks

Well maybe one good thing is that we may seriously reduce the seasonal flu.

_Kaiser_

Dempo1 wrote: »

I agree, infact I think a large section of society will continue to wear face masks

No issue with that at all personally - as long as the mandatory requirement is gone.

I certainly won't be one of those wearing one anyway.

First question at the media presser featuring MM and Leo:

"Are we reopening too quickly?"

Jesus wept. It wouldn't surprise me if that reporter was a government plant to throw favourable light on our dear leaders.

_Kaiser_

MM being asked what "remaining stable" means in regards to the criteria for the next phase and what the criteria is...

... he immediately defers to NPHET's recommendations, says no specific benchmarks, variables involved... waffle, waffle....


Translation: Still making it up as they go along!

Dempo1

is_that_so wrote: »

Was it the DAA guy? He's been vocal of late.

Edward Wilson of Ryanair & MOL"s miny me was on earlier in the week trashing everything from gov, NPHET, Cork Airport, its was shocking, he came across like a petulent child who's toy plane fell out of his pram.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Any mention of cinemas or funfairs opening?

July (1993)

Dempo1

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No issue with that at all personally - as long as the mandatory requirement is gone.

I certainly won't be one of those wearing one anyway.

Yes fully agree, personal choice etc

Great news about more of the economy opening up.

Vaccination program going well too.

Positive news going into a bank holiday weekend.

Zebra3

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

MM being asked what "remaining stable" means in regards to the criteria for the next phase and what the criteria is...

... he immediately defers to NPHET's recommendations, says no specific benchmarks, variables involved... waffle, waffle....


Translation: Still making it up as they go along!

Why change course now?

Vital Transformation

Necro wrote: »

In general but I doubt they'll drop mask wearing for this winter here in Ireland personally.

Won't everyone be vaccinated at that stage? I can't see the justification for continuing it then. Like others have said, grand if people choose to wear them and it is a positive that it can impact on the spread of flu, but mandatory requirements should not last longer than necessary.

Enter name here

Absolutely love the way you are falling over yourselves with excitement. It will be short lived and the Irish will do what they do best and **** things up and we will be back in level 5 again in 8 to 10 weeks time and we will all be eating turkey on our own again come Christmas.

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

First question at the media presser featuring MM and Leo:

"Are we reopening too quickly?"

Jesus wept. It wouldn't surprise me if that reporter was a government plant to throw favourable light on our dear leaders.

Meh. Reporters ask questions.

More importantly what was the answer?

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

July (1993)

Well I usually call it the Merries but wasn't sure if that was a Cork thing...

LessOutragePlz

Enter name here wrote: »

Absolutely love the way you are falling over yourselves with excitement. It will be short lived and the Irish will do what they do best and **** things up and we will be back in level 5 again in 8 to 10 weeks time and we will all be eating turkey on our own again come Christmas.

Have you heard of a thing called a vaccine?

It's a thing that's used to stop the spread of a virus just in case you haven't.

Enter name here

Enter name here wrote: »

Absolutely love the way you are falling over yourselves with excitement. It will be short lived and the Irish will do what they do best and **** things up and we will be back in level 5 again in 8 to 10 weeks time and we will all be eating turkey on our own again come Christmas.

I'm hiding under the bed, you can take the gap behind couch. We needn't risk the outside world until 2022, Tesco delivery guy never misses a deadline.

Get a grip, with widespread vaccination we'll never experience Level 5 drudgery again. And economic pressure will tell on the government by the autumn, so any hiking of restrictions due to advent of seasonal viruses is minimal at most.