Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Sharpyshoot

ISAG lawyer on Tonight Show now is representing all the curtain twitchers of boards.ie well tonight.

lawred2

Could someone tell me who bankrolls ISAG and why? For what purpose? Whose interest is zero covid in?

lawred2

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

ISAG lawyer on Tonight Show now is representing all the curtain twitchers of boards.ie well tonight.

She was off the wall. Getting all irate.

What's the Irish media fascination with them?

giveitholly

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

ISAG lawyer on Tonight Show now is representing all the curtain twitchers of boards.ie well tonight.

She was fit to cry with the thought of relaxing restrictions.

Itssoeasy

giveitholly wrote: »

She was fit to cry with the thought of relaxing restrictions.

As opposed to the rest of us who are fit to cry if these restrictions go one any longer than is necessary. What does ISAG stand for btw ?

BobbyMalone

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Leo mentioned on Prime Time the money being used is borrowed money and will have to be repaid and now Pascal Donohoe is on with Matt Cooper about the supports and the fact we are borrowing for all these supports and things will have to be repaid. And so it beings. Reality is finally starting to hit. Hence the quicker reopening. There is no choice.

D'ya think that's really it? We reopened fairly fast around this time last year and I'm sure they were aware of the costs involved.

Windmill100000

ypres5 wrote: »

Never realized you became a moderator, congratulations.

Is it really modding? Report it

bear1

I can't understand why masks would still be mandatory if the population is going to be fully vaccinated before year end?
I think though in airports and planes they won't ever go away.
Just can't see airlines scrapping it.
I dream of the day everything goes back to 2019.

Penfailed

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Masks can kindly eff off. And Holohan will be back in the winter looking for them to be reintroduced for the flu season. Guaranteed.

It's not guaranteed.

Dr. Bre

bear1 wrote: »

I can't understand why masks would still be mandatory if the population is going to be fully vaccinated before year end?
I think though in airports and planes they won't ever go away.
Just can't see airlines scrapping it.
I dream of the day everything goes back to 2019.

Couldn’t care if I had to wear mask on a flight or in a airport just so I can travel again !

Sammy2012

BobbyMalone wrote: »

D'ya think that's really it? We reopened fairly fast around this time last year and I'm sure they were aware of the costs involved.

There was an article in the Irish Times (I can't find it now) saying we will have to cut up to 12 billion from spending in the very near future. Government departments have been told to cut back also. The faster reopening might not all be down to the lack of finance but in my opinion it is definitely playing a part. The cost of this pandemic has been so high and eventually the cost of it will become very clear.

Penfailed

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Leo mentioned on Prime Time the money being used is borrowed money and will have to be repaid and now Pascal Donohoe is on with Matt Cooper about the supports and the fact we are borrowing for all these supports and things will have to be repaid. And so it beings. Reality is finally starting to hit. Hence the quicker reopening. There is no choice.

"And so it begins"?! It's not a new thing.

Leo said it back in his address to the nation on Paddy's Day last year. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

bear1

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Couldn’t care if I had to wear mask on a flight or in a airport just so I can travel again !

True but imagine a 10 hour flight wearing it constantly
Which brings me onto another point, I wonder when the government is thinking of scrapping the hotel ****e and allowing tourists in.

pjohnson

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You've never worked in a job where you have to wear a mask. I had to do 8hours in work, most of my lunch break when I wasn't eating and 2 hours of commuting with a mask on. They were even trying to get me to wear a mask when walking the streets in Dublin to my commute.

Masks can kindly eff off. And Holohan will be back in the winter looking for them to be reintroduced for the flu season. Guaranteed.

Is this the same type of Guarantee that this thread gave while insisting Holohan will keep everything locked down until 2022?

Sammy2012

Penfailed wrote: »

"And so it begins"?! It's not a new thing.

Leo said it back in his address to the nation on Paddy's Day last year. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

It doesn't come as any surprise to me but it will come as one to many.

JRant

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I was thinking about that too and agree 'they' will probably want to keep this until very late but then wouldnt that be contradictory?

I mean you couldn't have pubs or clubs or gigs with masks could you? And if you ditch them there how could you continue with them in shops?

Much like social distancing. Once most people are vaccinated that will slowly fade away to obscurity.

Whitters22

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

ISAG lawyer on Tonight Show now is representing all the curtain twitchers of boards.ie well tonight.

Who was it?

Sammy2012

bear1 wrote: »

True but imagine a 10 hour flight wearing it constantly
Which brings me onto another point, I wonder when the government is thinking of scrapping the hotel ****e and allowing tourists in.

I wear one for 7 hours a day with work so would happily wear one on a plane to get out of here and towards some sun. I would like to know the same as am wondering if travel without quarantine will be possible in August.

bear1

Sammy2012 wrote: »

I wear one for 7 hours a day with work so would happily wear one on a plane to get out of here and towards some sun. I would like to know the same as am wondering if travel without quarantine will be possible in August.

The passport thing should be done in July.
If you're fully vaccinated then I see no reason why you'd be quarantined.
The government needs tourism funds but don't see many people desperate to come to Ireland this year.

PaulJoseph22

Dempo1 wrote: »

Positive news but typically convoluted, ironic 474 more cases and 3 deaths announced as the Taoiseach spoke so whilst hospitalisation down, numbers of new cases not so down.

I don't get these various permissions as to who can visit another person's house, it's a nonsense and besides who monitors this.

I'm sure pubs and restaurants thrilled at the notion of out door service, they might get a few weeks of decent weather. The pronouncement by the HSE of 250k Vacinnes next week is probably fantasy, but we'll see.

Salons and barber's by appointment? Yeah, that's really going to happen and of course salons & barber's will turn away those naughty clients who haven't booked.

So hard to know, hard to see what's going to happen but with that mysterious and quite frankly nonsensical notion of €15 billion in personal savings waiting to be spent, I'm sure the economy will be fine, I've just ordered a Rolex myself (NOT)

Who listens to that imbecile that is a supposed leader of this country.
Utter nonsense.

JRant

Sammy2012 wrote: »

I wear one for 7 hours a day with work so would happily wear one on a plane to get out of here and towards some sun. I would like to know the same as am wondering if travel without quarantine will be possible in August.

Who knows, we are trying to add more countries to the list, even as vaccine numbers increase.

gozunda

JRant wrote: »

Don't be confused. Once the 65+ have one jab and HCW's are vaccinated that's deaths and the health system looked after. Everyone after that is purely a brucey bonus.

We know that at least 50% of those in hospital with Covid up to recently have been under 65s. The most recent 14 Day Epidemiological report now gives that figure as just under 73%. And whilst it is likley that a significant proportion of those have underlying conditions - the facts are that of the cases notified today 71% are under 45 years of age, with the median age being just 32 years.

Interestingly the average age of those contracting Covid seems to been driven down by the current vaccination programme - which means we will continue to see at least a proportion of people belonging to younger age groups in hospital for some time to come.

ceadaoin.

gozunda wrote: »

We know that at least 50% of those in hospital with Covid up to recently have been under 65s. And whilst it is likley that a significant proportion of those have underlying conditions - the fact is that of the cases notified today 71% are under 45 years of age, with the median age being just 32 years.

Interestingly the average age of those contracting Covid seems to been driven down by the current vaccination programme - which means we will continue to see at least a proportion of younger age groups in hospital for some time to come.

Highly doubtful young people catching it will lead to overwhelmed hospitals so does it matter?

charlie14

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Nope. Outdoor pints maybe but our weather being what it is, it’ll be pints in warm rain maybe.

I know it is said that fashions and fads change very quickly, but this has to be a record.
A few days ago pints outside were so popular Newry was going to be crammed to the rafters with traffic backed-up due to the crowds travelling from the Republic. Now suddenly pints outside is Meh.

But then that may be just because the weather in Northern Ireland is so much better than in the Republic.

charlie14

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Highly doubtful young people catching it will lead to overwhelmed hospitals so does it matter?

Probably not, but it depends on what age group you call young.

Under 35 will most like make no great difference in severe symptoms or I.C.U. numbers, but it would be foolish to believe that just vaccinating the over 65s and the vulnerable will take pressure of hospitals.
Sweden have followed the same vaccination regime as we have, possibly even slightly ahead percentage wise, and their health service is under severe pressure.

Jinglejangle69

Begs the question why click and collect or outdoor training wasnt brought in a month ago.

Once again its open everything within a few weeks.

What a waste of 4 months of severe lockdown when basic things could have been opened.

CruelSummer

Today was a good day, finally they’ve swung into action and started to cobble together a plan.

gozunda

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Begs the question why click and collect or outdoor training wasnt brought in a month ago.

Once again its open everything within a few weeks.

What a waste of 4 months of severe lockdown when basic things could have been opened.

Not sure about click and collect but with team sports etc - Infection rate are now lower plus more people vaccinated.

Edit.
Just checked and NI only brought in Click and collect on the 12th of April with a whole raft of conditions which must be met by retailers to ensure reduced risk for staff and shoppers

The introduction of these additional requirements aims to enhance the public safety within retail operations by promoting social distancing, reducing queues and interactions between consumers and retail staff, enhancing traffic flows by keeping a greater number of citizens outside stores, and reducing footfall in those essential stores that are open thereby enhancing their protection and maximising their safety.

https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/coronavirus-guide-providing-contactless-click-and-collect

Sharpyshoot

CruelSummer wrote: »

Today was a good day, finally they’ve swung into action and started to cobble together a plan.

To feather their own nests.

charlie14

CruelSummer wrote: »

Today was a good day, finally they’ve swung into action and started to cobble together a plan.

Today was a good day, but I don`t think it was cobbled together on the hoof today.
Getting out of lockdown, re-open in stages and hopefully not having to go back based on vaccinations far as I was concerned was always the plan. The level of vaccinations and the stages was the question of when.

Good to see construction is back soon. There should be some sort of breakfast roll metric to see if the economy is getting back on its feet.

Sharpyshoot

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see construction is back soon. There should be some sort of breakfast roll metric to see if the economy is getting back on its feet.

It’s getting the pup lads back on their feet is the problem, they need to cease it in June.

Jake.

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

It’s getting the pup lads back on their feet is the problem, they need to cease it in June.

A lot will never get back

Drink drugs and suicide have taken a big toll from what I've seen

Klonker

I have to say the planned easing of restrictions announcement today has really put me in a good mood.

Its not even a personal thing. I'm lucky that I have a house with my partner and have been working from home on full wage since the beginning. I won't be rushing out to go shopping or to a restaurant, my other half's haircut will do me a few more weeks before a professional fixes it I might try get to my local back home for a few pints when the beer garden opens. I wasn't really following the intercounty travel or household mixing rules to the letter of the law anyway but I'm just happy that people can get back to enjoying their lives and for a lot a chance to reopen their businesses. Its really started to feel we are only a couple of months from our 'old normal', it's only a few weeks ago we were being told to expect an 'outdoor summer' and a lot of other negative forecasting. It really feels the finish line is not far away.

bodhrandude

Just a thought that occurred to me, when national travel gets eased on May 10th will services like Citylink, Bus Eireann Expressway, Irish Rail that go from city to city require full vaccination certs before you can board the bus or train. Its just I hope to visit my sister in Cork, I'm in Galway. Just something that's niggling at me as I get my first vaccination this afternoon.

Klonker

bodhrandude wrote: »

Just a thought that occurred to me, when national travel gets eased on May 10th will services like Citylink, Bus Eireann Expressway, Irish Rail that go from city to city require full vaccination certs before you can board the bus or train. Its just I hope to visit my sister in Cork, I'm in Galway. Just something that's niggling at me as I get my first vaccination this afternoon.

No you won't need a vaccine cert.

josip

Balmed Out wrote: »

Matches definitely june 7th but see no mention as to whether contact in training allowed beforehand.

Fair play to any coach who has been able to maintain interest in non-contact training sessions over the past year.
I coach U11s and I was going hoarse last year trying to stop them tackling each other.
Didn't want to/couldn't go nuclear and abandon the training because that would have been worse I thought.
At this stage, as long as they're not licking each other, I'll let them get on with it.

themacattack.

gozunda wrote: »

We know that at least 50% of those in hospital with Covid up to recently have been under 65s. The most recent 14 Day Epidemiological report now gives that figure as just under 73%. And whilst it is likley that a significant proportion of those have underlying conditions - the facts are that of the cases notified today 71% are under 45 years of age, with the median age being just 32 years.

Interestingly the average age of those contracting Covid seems to been driven down by the current vaccination programme - which means we will continue to see at least a proportion of people belonging to younger age groups in hospital for some time to come.

yea you said it yourself so most of under 65s that might end up in hospital would have an underlying condition...i know a 29 year old type 1 diabetic got their first shot of moderna last week....second shot in 2 weeks so fully vaccinated....restrictions are done,no hospitilisations or very little why would any government re-introduce restrictions even if cases are increasing

themacattack.

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Leo mentioned on Prime Time the money being used is borrowed money and will have to be repaid and now Pascal Donohoe is on with Matt Cooper about the supports and the fact we are borrowing for all these supports and things will have to be repaid. And so it beings. Reality is finally starting to hit. Hence the quicker reopening. There is no choice.

Didnt see prime time but heard him say the same thing twice on leaders questions,they have obviously decided its time to let joe soap know that theres no such thing as free money,imagine what all them billions could have been spent on,a few new hospials would have been lovely

beggars_bush

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see construction is back soon. There should be some sort of breakfast roll metric to see if the economy is getting back on its feet.

Comstruction never really stopped down the country
Two houses built up the road since January

Boggles

beggars_bush wrote: »

Comstruction never really stopped down the country
Two houses built up the road since January

They were ghost builders.

FintanMcluskey

80,000 ghost builders on PUP at various stages

10,000 invisible homes built this year

Paranormal activity really gives me the heeby jeebies

CruelSummer

charlie14 wrote: »

Today was a good day, but I don`t think it was cobbled together on the hoof today.
Getting out of lockdown, re-open in stages and hopefully not having to go back based on vaccinations far as I was concerned was always the plan. The level of vaccinations and the stages was the question of when.

Hopefully. There were so many businesses waiting on what would happen for the summer. I do understand this is a fluid situation but thankfully hospitalisations and deaths here are very low at the moment.
I think the positivity from NPHET was also a surprise which allowed them to proceed with this. It’s great news all around & hopefully will continue this way for the summer at least.

the kelt

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

80,000 ghost builders on PUP at various stages

10,000 invisible homes built this year

Paranormal activity really gives me the heeby jeebies

Makes sense.

Remember all the “ghost estates” we had after the Celtic tiger was shot!

Boggles

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

80,000 ghost builders on PUP at various stages

10,000 invisible homes built this year

Paranormal activity really gives me the heeby jeebies

I'm convinced it was rouge Doozers working on the housing estates near me.

Had to be sure every construction worker was sitting at home since December.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

I'm convinced it was rouge Doozers working on the housing estates near me.

Had to be sure every construction worker was sitting at home since December.

pjohnson

Boggles wrote: »

I'm convinced it was rouge Doozers working on the housing estates near me.

Had to be sure every construction worker was sitting at home since December.

They probably had passports aswell.


The horrors of the real world.

Elessar

I see government has given control to NPHET to apply an emergency brake if numbers start climbing too much.

Which is exactly what will start happening in May. Government will just put their hands up and say "sorry", we need to protect 'x' in society. Will they close the businesses that just reopened? Who knows.

_Kaiser_

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Couldn’t care if I had to wear mask on a flight or in a airport just so I can travel again !

See there's the problem..

You didn't have to wear one before all this. With the vulnerable vaccinated there's even less reason to have to. Their effectiveness (given how most people are treating them) is questionable at best.

You shouldn't have to accept what is more of a psychological tool to remind you of "de virus" and "de rules" as well as a not so subtle means of social separation and reminding you not to be interacting too much with others, just to be "allowed" do things as you could before, for a virus that's even less of a threat now than ever.

I understand your eagerness to get back to travelling but be careful about what conditions you accept to do so.

paw patrol

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see construction is back soon. There should be some sort of breakfast roll metric to see if the economy is getting back on its feet.

Boggles wrote: »

They were ghost builders.

construction never closed according to Boggles - Tom Parlon told him too.:pac: