Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

Graham · 27-03-2021 7:12pm

Multipass wrote: »

I love how it was ok to shut schools, postpone cancer screening, pay billions to keep people at home - but never ever can you stop meat production.

Food production has been rightly classed as essential from Day 0.

I assume the reasoning is fairly obvious.

Jimi H · 27-03-2021 7:16pm

Multipass wrote: »

I love how it was ok to shut schools, postpone cancer screening, pay billions to keep people at home - but never ever can you stop meat production.

I agree. It seems very few profit from meat. Farmers have said for years that they struggle, factory workers seem to be treated pretty poorly with no rights, environmental impact will cost us all with the emissions and not just financially and the factories are a hotbed for Covid. But hey, the fat cats have good lobbyists and friends in high places.

CalamariFritti · 27-03-2021 7:35pm

Graham wrote: »

Food production has been rightly classed as essential from Day 0.

I assume the reasoning is fairly obvious.

The vast majority of meat produced is exported.

Stheno · 27-03-2021 7:37pm

Jimi H wrote: »

Apologies if already posted. The lancet report is a tough read. At least it was for me. I just assumed we’d be ok when a large percentage were vaccinated. I think the government need to communicate honestly with us about how we’re going to get back to living our lives and living safely. If we need to make changes going forward let us know and we can be prepared and ready.
https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1375169141796184064?s=20

I discount anything supported by Gerry Kileen tbh

Graham · 27-03-2021 7:38pm

CalamariFritti wrote: »

The vast majority of meat produced is exported.

Changes nothing.

We import lots of food products that similarly have not been restricted.

Multipass · 27-03-2021 7:39pm

Graham wrote: »

Food production has been rightly classed as essential from Day 0.

I assume the reasoning is fairly obvious.

Meat isn’t essential

Boggles · 27-03-2021 7:41pm

Jimi H wrote: »

Apologies if already posted. The lancet report is a tough read. At least it was for me. I just assumed we’d be ok when a large percentage were vaccinated. I think the government need to communicate honestly with us about how we’re going to get back to living our lives and living safely. If we need to make changes going forward let us know and we can be prepared and ready.

It's a modelling study based on various assumptions.

They say themselves they will need to refine as more data becomes available.

I wouldn't be getting too excited by it.

Boggles · 27-03-2021 7:44pm

Multipass wrote: »

Meat isn’t essential

Of course it is, unless you have figured out a way to have steak and chips without it?

Doctor Jimbob · 27-03-2021 8:11pm

Jimi H wrote: »

Apologies if already posted. The lancet report is a tough read. At least it was for me. I just assumed we’d be ok when a large percentage were vaccinated. I think the government need to communicate honestly with us about how we’re going to get back to living our lives and living safely. If we need to make changes going forward let us know and we can be prepared and ready.
https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1375169141796184064?s=20

Ah yes, because modelling studies and Gerry Killeen haven't been wrong at all throughout this whole thing.

frank8211 · 27-03-2021 8:12pm

Multipass wrote: »

Meat isn’t essential

The IFA would raise hell if anyone tried to rein in the meat factories and all governments are terrified of the IFA

Boggles · 27-03-2021 8:14pm

Neagra wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

good old fashioned jail break
Gods speed to them.

hopefully they dont print their pictures, three pictures of coloured men being chased by a white police force will not look good.

Casual racism aside.

Sources said that three men, who had arrived on a flight from Dubai, were outside The Crowne Plaza Hotel in Santry smoking under supervision when they attempted to abscond. One of the men returned voluntarily but two others left the premises. One is an Irish national and another is on a UK passport, it is understood.

How have you determined they are "coloured men"?

frank8211 · 27-03-2021 8:15pm

Neagra wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

good old fashioned jail break
Gods speed to them.

hopefully they dont print their pictures, three pictures of coloured men being chased by a white police force will not look good.

Do we know they were coloured?

Neagra · 27-03-2021 8:17pm

Boggles wrote: »

Casual racism aside.

How have you determined they are "coloured men"?

you can be coloured and be Irish
disappointed in you regards that.

FintanMcluskey · 27-03-2021 8:18pm

This conversation is going to get interesting

Boggles · 27-03-2021 8:19pm

Neagra wrote: »

you can be coloured and be Irish
disappointed in you regards that.

Woosh!

But again how have you determined their ethnicity or race from that article?

Neagra · 27-03-2021 8:21pm

Boggles wrote: »

Woosh!

But again how have you determined their ethnicity from that article?

you have - you said they were irish but not people of colour.
you inferred that was not possible.

pjohnson · 27-03-2021 8:25pm

Neagra wrote: »

you have - you said they were irish but not people of colour.
you inferred that was not possible.

You brought colour into this in the first place?

Neagra wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

good old fashioned jail break
Gods speed to them.

hopefully they dont print their pictures, three pictures of coloured men being chased by a white police force will not look good.

Or was this posted by Boggles?

Boggles · 27-03-2021 8:25pm

Neagra wrote: »

you have - you said they were irish but not people of colour.
you inferred that was not possible.

I said no such thing.

Neagra · 27-03-2021 8:29pm

Boggles wrote: »

I said no such thing.

i cant do this, not an IT nerd

put my original post, your reply and then my reply all in one post.
its very self explanatory

Boggles · 27-03-2021 8:39pm

Neagra wrote: »

you have - you said they were irish but not people of colour.
you inferred that was not possible.

Neagra wrote: »

i cant do this, not an IT nerd

put my original post, your reply and then my reply all in one post.
its very self explanatory

Boggles wrote: »

Casual racism aside.

How have you determined they are "coloured men"?

Nope, I asked you a question, I have not inferred anything.

Neither did the article you linked to.

So again.

hopefully they dont print their pictures, three pictures of coloured men ( being chased by a white police force will not look good.

How have you determined their race from that article?

Neagra · 27-03-2021 8:43pm

Boggles wrote: »

Nope, I asked you a question, I have not speculated on anything.

Neither did the article you linked to.

So again.

How have you determined their race from that article?

thanks, please start with the original post i made and your reply and my reply.
its the only fair way to discuss this , the facts.

if you cant do then maybe someone else can?

if not there is no point debating posts unless it can be done as a link or no one will follow the convo.

Boggles · 27-03-2021 8:46pm

Neagra wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

good old fashioned jail break
Gods speed to them.

hopefully they dont print their pictures, three pictures of coloured men being chased by a white police force will not look good.

Boggles wrote: »

Casual racism aside.

Sources said that three men, who had arrived on a flight from Dubai, were outside The Crowne Plaza Hotel in Santry smoking under supervision when they attempted to abscond. One of the men returned voluntarily but two others left the premises. One is an Irish national and another is on a UK passport, it is understood.

How have you determined they are "coloured men"?

Neagra wrote: »

thanks, please start with the original post i made and your reply and my reply.
its the only fair way to discuss this , the facts.

if you cant do then maybe someone else can?

if not there is no point debating posts unless it can be done as a link or no one will follow the convo.

See above, don't see how that changes the question though.

27-03-2021 8:47pm

Graham wrote: »

Fortunately that's not true however much you'd like it to be.

We'll have to chat about it tomorrow, Graham. I'm out at a dinner party tonight, owing to my personal level of risk tolerance.

Dropped a parcel to the neighbours before I left home and they had a housefull, too. Guessing it's something to do with their personal risk tolerance.

hynesie08 · 27-03-2021 8:50pm

Neagra wrote: »

thanks, please start with the original post i made and your reply and my reply.
its the only fair way to discuss this , the facts.

if you cant do then maybe someone else can?

if not there is no point debating posts unless it can be done as a link or no one will follow the convo.

Why did you assume they were colored?

27-03-2021 10:35pm

CalamariFritti wrote: »

The vast majority of meat produced is exported.

Sure there would be no consequences to interrupting global food distribution networks

JRant · 27-03-2021 11:38pm

RobitTV wrote: »

We need to start thinking about outdoor living according to this article

Irish Times: Public urged not to travel due to risk of asymptomatic spread

Infectious disease specialist Dr Mary Horgan has called on the public not to travel during Easter weekend due to the risk of asymptomatic people spreading Covid-19.

Dr Horgan said the public needed to think about outdoor living while the days are getting longer and the weather warmer.

“Communities locally should be thinking about how to live outdoors. Now is the time to start building infrastructures outdoors,” she said.

“It aligns with our climate green agenda also perhaps by closing the streets in our towns, incentivising people and putting the onus on businesses in communities to see how they can adapt. Let’s be creative. That’s what we Irish are good at.”

Irish Times

With all due respect to the good doctor, she can go take a long walk off a short pier.

W123-80's · 27-03-2021 11:51pm

Neagra wrote: »

this virus is finished when we are vaccinated.
thats by end of summer.
so can we stop with the hysteria and discuss the reality and facts of post covid.

Is it your opinion that the virus will be finished by August or is that a fact?

Sharpyshoot · 28-03-2021 12:33am

M Martin and his amigos need to deliver a concise clear and positive road map because they are on borrowed time as it is.

normanoffside · 28-03-2021 12:36am

If random testing of people with no symptoms shows 2.2% positivity and targeted testing of symptomatic people and close contacts shows 3.1-3.5% Positivity; you have to question what is going on?

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375832238412169220

https://twitter.com/NickyRyan_/status/1375901963594924035

Sharpyshoot · 28-03-2021 12:38am

normanoffside wrote: »

If random testing of people with no symptoms shows 2.2% positivity and targeted testing of symptomatic people and close contacts shows 3.1-3.5% Positivity; you have to question what is going on?

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375832238412169220

https://twitter.com/NickyRyan_/status/1375901963594924035

What is going on is 420k wages.

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