Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

lawred2

rob316 wrote: »

This headline I saw on a paper boiled my piss "Ministers push for construction to re-open"

Why do they have to push for it, they are meant to run the show?

yeah but they have to maintain the charade/narrative that much of this is outside their control in some shape or form..

Try to pretend that they have to "push" for it on our behalf with those sticklers over at NPHET...

"boys, if it weren't for the nerds over at NPHET; we'd be opening up, but our hands are tied"

It's circular buck passing.

TonyMaloney

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Having parties during a pandemic is irresponsible.

Don't bother your hole arguing with that.

Did you attend any parties in 2009/10?

Pussyhands

Lads, remember the app? Hasn't been mentioned in months, must be forgotten about. Another flavour of the month that probably cost us millions.

SAMTALK

Deleted User wrote: »

What “numbers”? Case numbers?

They’re about to rise again when more go back to school after Easter regardless.

Deaths? I’m not in contact with any at-risk individuals, and those will fall as more at-risk people get vaccinated.

Both, you're not in contact with at risk individuals, but you could be with someone who is .

So you think numbers will rise regardless, so let's all do what we like anyway.

Dont' get me wrong, there is a lot I dont agree with. like distance, certain business that could be open etc, but rebelling against restrictions is a lost cause

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Tribalism? Srsly? :pac:

The OP claimed he and his friends had a "night out".

If he went to his mates garden shed and drank cans, well then just say that.

No need for the stories.

Being reduced to arguing that only one very specific definition of “out” is now acceptable is not a good look chief.

Boggles

Well, there no real rush to open the fiction section in the book stores.

lawred2

TonyMaloney wrote: »

having parties indoors is a ****ing problem

if you're doing that kind of ****, you are part of the problem. And don't ****ing whinge about unemployment or mental health when you're negatively contributing to both.

It is hard to live within the rules, but doing exactly the wrong ****ing thing is inexcusable.

curtain twitchers weren't happy with people meeting outdoors either.

SusieBlue

It’s actually almost comical that according to the rules, a couple living in separate households haven’t been allowed to share a bed or have any private intimacy since December without breaking the restrictions.

How the government think that’s in any way realistic, sustainable or that it’s even being adhered to is quite amusing. I don’t know any couples following that rule. They have all continued to meet in each other’s homes, whether they were entitled to a bubble or not.

It just shows how completely out of touch those in charge are, that they still haven’t addressed this or made an exception. They know it isn’t being followed yet they will still continue with this rule well into May and probably beyond.

Even throughout the lockdowns in the UK couples living separately were allowed to mix households indoors. Not in good old Ireland though. Apparently physical contact between couples isn’t essential or necessary for 13 weeks and counting.
If it wasn’t so depressing it would be funny.

LessOutragePlz

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Having parties during a pandemic is irresponsible.

Don't bother your hole arguing with that.

Expecting people to continue to comply with draconian restrictions in counties with very low case numbers with no end in sight is very irresponsible.

The government only have themselves to blame for this as more and more people are becoming fed up with the never ending lockdowns.

You and other posters can continue to blame the people that are ignoring restrictions but the truth is if the government had any sense they'd take a regional approach and lift more restrictions in counties with very low case numbers but no they will continue to use the sledgehammer approach because it's all they've ever used.

So keep blaming the people all you want when in reality myself and the majority of the posters in this thread know that the blame for this is all on the government and their continued never ending lockdowns without even considering a regional approach.

facehugger99

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Having parties during a pandemic is irresponsible.

Don't bother your hole arguing with that.

The country needs more people willing to think for themselves and less subservient fools.

SAMTALK

facehugger99 wrote: »

I don't believe we have changed at all as a country in half a century,

Instead of the Bishops and Catholic Church, we now have St Tony, dishing out his nonsensical sermons and rules. There is no logic of science just blind faith behind it all

The lads today that would try and shame people for socialising with their friends are the same people who would have shamed young girls for becoming pregnant. It's puritanical nonsense from people who probably had fcuk all of a social life pre-pandemic.

Absolute ridiculous statement

LameBeaver

facehugger99 wrote: »

I know a good way to stop that - let the pubs open, along with all other retail and hospitality.

Locking people up for the best part of a year and then blaming them for meeting up and socialising - It's like some Orwellian nightmare.

I never thought I'd see the day when people traded away so much for so little. It makes me ashamed of this country and a lot of people who live in it.

Every single post from you consists of you stating that you`re ashamed and continually giving out reams about the people on this country and the government school teachers, public servants, health care workers etc etc . Are you sure you wouldn`t be happier moving some where else like permanently chief?

gmisk

Pussyhands wrote: »

Lads, remember the app? Hasn't been mentioned in months, must be forgotten about. Another flavour of the month that probably cost us millions.

Do you actually look up the details of anything before you post?
It cost 850k to develop.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/20/cheap-popular-and-it-works-irelands-contact-tracing-app-success
It worked, and had 1.2 million downloads in 8 days.

The UK one cost over 35 million and flopped.

SAMTALK

SAMTALK wrote: »

Both, you're not in contact with at risk individuals, but you could be with someone who is .

So you think numbers will rise regardless, so let's all do what we like anyway.

Dont' get me wrong, there is a lot I dont agree with. like distance, certain business that could be open etc, but rebelling against restrictions is a lost cause

No, I know and trust the people I was with. We all have elderly relatives we haven’t seen in months and won’t see until they are vaccinated. The only vector of transmission for any of us is children in school, who are now on holidays.

None of us ever forced our children into social isolation for the many-times-more-dangerous-to-them flu that goes around every year, so we’re not doing so for this.

Contrary to it being a lost cause, it was a very fun evening, an outlet for people who’ve been cooped up too long without social activity.

A couple more of those should see me through until I head to the UK once they’re opened a bit more.

Hooked

facehugger99 wrote: »

I don't believe we have changed at all as a country in half a century,

Instead of the Bishops and Catholic Church, we now have St Tony, dishing out his nonsensical sermons and rules. There is no logic of science just blind faith behind it all

The lads today that would try and shame people for socialising with their friends are the same people who would have shamed young girls for becoming pregnant. It's puritanical nonsense from people who probably had fcuk all of a social life pre-pandemic.

Agreed. Frightening isn't it...

Sobit1964

LameBeaver wrote: »

Every single post from you consists of you stating that you`re ashamed and continually giving out reams about the people on this country and the government school teachers, public servants, health care workers etc etc . Are you sure you wouldn`t be happier moving some where else like permanently chief?

I suspect he might be happier if YOU would move somewhere else. Nasty attempt at shaming him.

LameBeaver

facehugger99 wrote: »

The country needs more people willing to think for themselves and less subservient fools.

I`d say you have issues chief.

TonyMaloney

facehugger99 wrote: »

The country needs more people willing to think for themselves and less subservient fools.

Don't call me a fool

Have your parties, you free thinking heroes. Just don't moan about the restrictions you're causing.

SAMTALK

Deleted User wrote: »

No, I know and trust the people I was with. We all have elderly relatives we haven’t seen in months and won’t see until they are vaccinated. The only vector of transmission for any of us is children in school, who are now on holidays.

None of us ever forced our children into social isolation for the many-times-more-dangerous-to-them flu that goes around every year, so we’re not doing so for this.

Contrary to it being a lost cause, it was a very fun evening, an outlet for people who’ve been cooped up too long without social activity.

A couple more of those should see me through until I head to the UK once they’re opened a bit more.

That's great and I get it, but you can't say 100 percent that there was no risk

Again I'm not saying all restrictions are right, a lot of things are just so wrong it's not funny, but if we do what we want when we want we cannot be in a position to grumble when things don't change in the next few weeks / months

gozunda

Pussyhands wrote: »

Lads, remember the app? Hasn't been mentioned in months, must be forgotten about. Another flavour of the month that probably cost us millions.

Eh? I've seen it referenced many times both in briefings and in the media. Afaik its still very much a working tool in the close contact alert system

Covid Tracker app issues close contact alerts to 20,000 people in six months

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-tracker-app-issues-close-contact-alerts-to-20-000-people-in-six-months-1.4459373
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40235753.html

honda boi

Don't know about everyone here but actually catching the virus is becoming the least of my worries. I myself get f**ked with any respiratory virus pre covid(I'm young,healthy and not overweight, just my lungs aren't great at all), so ye it would probably make me sick as a dog if I catch it.
But being locked up and not seeing anyone is way worse.
The only thing keeping me to the rules is honestly financially. In the sense if I got fined for anything it would cost me alot. So admittedly fines is the only thing keeping me in check but it's getting to me.!

SnuggyBear

The app was well made infairness and was a good tool but I'm not sure enough people used it to be useful.

SAMTALK

SAMTALK wrote: »

That's great and I get it, but you can't say 100 percent that there was no risk

Again I'm not saying all restrictions are right, a lot of things are just so wrong it's not funny, but if we do what we want when we want we cannot be in a position to grumble when things don't change in the next few weeks / months

I have never endeavoured to live a zero risk life.

A bigger risk to the health of everyone involved was the car journey there. I don’t intend to stop driving for fear of accidents.

TonyMaloney

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Don't call me a fool

Have your parties, you free thinking heroes. Just don't moan about the restrictions you're causing.

So no parties in 2009/10 then?

SAMTALK

Deleted User wrote: »

I have never endeavoured to live a zero risk life.

A bigger risk to the health of everyone involved was the car journey there. I don’t intend to stop driving for fear of accidents.

That's fair enough and it's your choice ( I get that and understand it)

So you won't be here giving out in 6 or 8 weeks if we still have restricions in place

LameBeaver

Sobit1964 wrote: »

I suspect he might be happier if YOU would move somewhere else. Nasty attempt at shaming him.

Ah so you support someone who constantly viciously attacks teachers, healthcare workers etc.? Speaks volumes about you if you do. Oh and frankly chief I couldn`t give a flying fcuk about what he or anyone else might or might not want me to do.

facehugger99

facehugger99 wrote: »

I don't believe we have changed at all as a country in half a century,

Instead of the Bishops and Catholic Church, we now have St Tony, dishing out his nonsensical sermons and rules. There is no logic of science just blind faith behind it all

The lads today that would try and shame people for socialising with their friends are the same people who would have shamed young girls for becoming pregnant. It's puritanical nonsense from people who probably had fcuk all of a social life pre-pandemic.

So you are saying that evidence based medicine is blind faith? I'm hearing it all today :pac:

facehugger99

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Don't call me a fool

Have your parties, you free thinking heroes. Just don't moan about the restrictions you're causing.

It would appear you're calling yourself one.

gozunda

Hooked wrote: »

Agreed. Frightening isn't it...

Yeah much like most good old fictional story's which employ hyperbole.

SAMTALK

SAMTALK wrote: »

That's fair enough and it's your choice ( I get that and understand it)

So you won't be here giving out in 6 or 8 weeks if we still have restricions in place

I will, as I have been from the start. But not because of “the numbers” - because I have always had a moral and philosophical objection to draconian governance. Deviating from the principle of public consent is (IMO of course) dangerous and repugnant. And I’m not about to stop complaining about it because my actions were consistent with my belief. I hope that makes sense.

That’s assuming I’m still here in 6-8 weeks. Currently waiting for a UK property to be vacated so we can move into it.