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Transgender Woman guilty of child abuse imagery offenses [ADMIN WARNING IN 1ST POST]

  • 26-03-2021 2:29am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 44 Alaninwondeand


    https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-jailed-criminal-court-5392090-Mar2021/

    I was reading this thinking how could a woman be so evil. It wasn't until the end of the article that the "woman" was actually a man.

    Secondly, how can a judge say he thinks this person is a good person? Whats wrong with the judiciary at all.







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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,810 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Please do not misgender this pedophile.

    It’s very harmful.

    EDIT: As per admin Tokyo's post here, misgendering this pedophile will now result in an "immediate and permanent siteban". Don't say you weren't warned in many places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Transgender people are getting a label as being sexual deviant especially to crimes such as rape and pedophilia. Unfair or not there seems to be so many cases for so few people in this category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.





    Secondly, how can a judge say he thinks this person is a good person? Whats wrong with the judiciary at all.
    “I don’t think she is a bad person but she committed serious offences and the court must punish her for her misbehaviour,” said Judge Nolan.

    That explains it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Jesus this is absolutely sick. The world has descended into utter degeneracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    That explains it

    Before even looking at the article I was saying to myself it's Nolan isn't it

    When the garda say they haven't even some of this stuff before and she's saying she's an excellent candidate for treatment since she fessed up AFTER being caught aka get out of jail quick you have to wonder about him as a judge

    Far far too lenient on child abuse in Ireland - every one of those images she possessed feeds the industry and she was passing them on as well. WTF!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Minimum mandatory 1 image = 1 year needed, get these sickos off the streets for good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,866 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/jail-for-sex-worker-found-with-depraved-child-abuse-images-1101788.html
    Judge Martin Nolan said the accused had been in possession of thousands of “depraved images of child pornography”.
    I don't think she is a bad person but, she committed serious offences and the court must punish her for her misbehaviour,” said Judge Nolan

    Eh.....what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    And its not "pornography". It's images of child abuse pure and simple


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    Shield wrote: »
    Please do not misgender this pedophile.

    It’s very harmful.

    Sure........ I wouldn't like to hurt her feelings.


    *said through gritted teeth*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08



    Judge Nolan has always had a deeply empathetic connection with paedophiles that appear before him.

    But I don't think he's a bad person either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Ah judge Martin Nolan, a paedo's best friend.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Women, EH ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    I'm actually shocked reading that article.

    Did my eyes deceive me, or did Suspended Sentence Nolan actually give someone who downloaded child abuse imagery a custodial sentence?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    "Child abusers, a great bunch of lads" - Nolan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Paedophile guilty of possession of child abuse images. It's not "porn".


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Literally moved to Ireland because sex work prostitution is safer here. Just the kind of immigration we need. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    I was reading this thinking how could a women be so evil. It wasn't until the end of the article that the "women" was actually a man.

    Mod: The article doesn't say that though and this kind of baiting will be actioned without recourse. Please bear that in mind throughout the course of this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    I didn't know there was crystal meth in Ireland.
    Drugs, prostitution and pedophilia, this guy is a great addition to the country.

    We are told, according to the article, that she will be deported after the sentence is served. How about doing sufficient background checks on people who move to Ireland prior to them getting arrested for drugs, prostitution, and pedophilia? The Irish State failed to protect its citizens in this instance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Kivaro wrote: »
    We are told, according to the article, that she will be deported after the sentence is served. How about doing sufficient background checks on people who move to Ireland prior to them getting arrested for drugs, prostitution, and pedophilia? The Irish State failed to protect its citizens in this instance.

    She may not have had any prior convictions.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Has anyone ever checked Judge Nolan's personal computer?

    You know, for viruses...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    I didn't know there was crystal meth in Ireland.
    Drugs, prostitution and pedophilia, this guy is a great addition to the country.

    There is and it's used by gay men for sex parties.

    https://www.rainbow-project.org/chemsex


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    She may not have had any prior convictions.

    The article said she was involved in prostitution in Sao Paulo, Brasil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Tokyo wrote: »
    Mod: The article doesn't say that though and this kind of baiting will be actioned without recourse. Please bear that in mind throughout the course of this thread.

    Genuine question, so please don't take it as baiting, it's really not clear to me: are we allowed to point out that going by the tiny number of trans women in Irish prisons, they do seem to show a sex abuse profile that is far closer to that of men than of women?

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The gender of this person isn't relevant to the crimes they have committed beyond the curiosity of some. Their being trans didn't make them download this content and trans people don't habitually engage in this behaviour.

    The notion that somebody could be in possession of that many images of that nature and not be a bad person is perplexing.

    The issues surrounding the sharing of such content are well documented and have been for decades. No adult with normal cognitive functions should be unaware of how this content is created and how every point in its distribution is in violation of laws internationally.

    If the judge in question was suggesting this person was not a bad person because of their status as a transgender individual they are missing the point in grand fashion in relation to seeing trans people as equals to everyone else and is identifying a trans person as worthy of less chastisement by virtue of their status as trans.

    The trans issue should not have been considered in this case. If you believe trans people deserve respect then treat them like anyone else in all settings.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭McCrack


    https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-jailed-criminal-court-5392090-Mar2021/

    I was reading this thinking how could a woman be so evil. It wasn't until the end of the article that the "woman" was actually a man.

    Secondly, how can a judge say he thinks this person is a good person? Whats wrong with the judiciary at all.







    Mod: Threadban List:
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    • CtevenSrowder



    Mod Note: Thread title and OP updated to more accurately reflect it was 1 woman and not mulitiple women.

    Mod can you also amend the title to child abuse imagery

    There is nothing pornographic about children being sexually abused


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Lemon Davis lll


    Kivaro wrote: »
    We are told, according to the article, that she will be deported after the sentence is served. How about doing sufficient background checks on people who move to Ireland prior to them getting arrested for drugs, prostitution, and pedophilia? The Irish State failed to protect its citizens in this instance.

    Likely entered the State claiming to study English in an august centre of learning, above a shabby launderette somewhere along Dorset St.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    McCrack wrote: »
    Mod can you also amend the title to child abuse imagery

    There is nothing pornographic about children being sexually abused

    Mod

    Fair point. Done. Apologies for the delay.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Will do a handy number in the women's jails too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    volchitsa wrote: »
    Genuine question, so please don't take it as baiting, it's really not clear to me: are we allowed to point out that going by the tiny number of trans women in Irish prisons, they do seem to show a sex abuse profile that is far closer to that of men than of women?

    Mod

    Lets chat via PM on this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Literally moved to Ireland because sex work prostitution is safer here. Just the kind of immigration we need. :rolleyes:

    Immigrant and transgender , an NGOs wets dream .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    volchitsa wrote: »
    Genuine question, so please don't take it as baiting, it's really not clear to me: are we allowed to point out that going by the tiny number of trans women in Irish prisons, they do seem to show a sex abuse profile that is far closer to that of men than of women?
    .

    That's because they're men . I don't care if a man wants to call himself a woman or dress up like one it's no skin off my nose , but they're still biologically a man , no matter that they try and tell you different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Tokyo wrote: »
    Mod: The article doesn't say that though and this kind of baiting will be actioned without recourse. Please bear that in mind throughout the course of this thread.
    .

    That's because they're men . I don't care if a man wants to call himself a woman or dress up like one it's no skin off my nose , but they're still biologically a man , no matter that they try and tell you different.

    Mod

    Dont post in this thread again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    nullzero wrote: »
    The gender of this person isn't relevant to the crimes they have committed beyond the curiosity of some. Their being trans didn't make them download this content and trans people don't habitually engage in this behaviour.

    Personally, I think it’s very important to record the biological sex of all criminals, otherwise the statistics will become skewed and meaningless. And I can’t think why anyone would have a problem with this unless they think sex and gender are the same thing.

    It’s also very relevant because she was given a custodial sentence. Where will that sentence be carried out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    Please keep posts on topic and limit the whataboutery to zero, or further cards and threadbans will be applied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    WHY can we not use our common sense and discretion now?
    Ideological capture of the narrative. A deliberate cognitive leap is required to get on board and those that fail to make this leap are dismissed as bad people. Truly remarkable stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    nullzero wrote: »
    The gender of this person isn't relevant to the crimes they have committed beyond the curiosity of some. Their being trans didn't make them download this content and trans people don't habitually engage in this behaviour.

    Society places a higher behavioural bar on men because their more likely to commit sexual harm than women. The issue is not that they are trans but that may bypass safe guards men are placed under which is illogical when someone was born male. I will call them a falcon if they identify as that but if given a prison term these criminals shouldn't automatically be put into a women's prison. However because of the extremist and moronic Gender Recognition Act 2015 that is what happens. The prison services are unhappy that they are hamstrung on this. The case of Barbie Kardashian is a good example of why the Gender Recognition Act 2015 is a bad law. What is really sinister is how Tusla have censored discussion of the case and you need to use a VPN to get info on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    How long is the sentence, I might have missed it in the article. More interestingly, where will DeSouza be serving his sentence, have trans criminals been sent to prison in Ireland before ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    How long is the sentence, I might have missed it in the article. More interestingly, where will DeSouza be serving her sentence, have trans criminals been sent to prison in Ireland before ?

    FYP


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    FYP

    EEeeeeeehhh, the pedo. hows that !?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Sentence: three years. I wonder how that compares to sentences handed down to males for a similar offence?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,114 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    There we are now, sex work and / or crystal meth will turn you into a nonce, that's a new one on me anyway.

    The amount of excuses for this individual in that article is mind boggling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    minikin wrote: »
    Sentence: three years. I wonder how that compares to sentences handed down to males for a similar offence?

    Well Nolan has given men that downloaded 60k images of child abuse suspended sentences so there is little in the way of consistency in sentencing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Noland is very lenient on nonces, it's very frustrating. Some young fella only got 2 years or something off him the other day after being caught with hundreds of images of babies, justification being he showed remorse and willingness to change during therapy..

    No clue what the fact she is transgender has to do with it though. Being transgender didn't make her do it, being an evil sack of **** did. Are we really still implying in 2021 queer people are more predisposed to paedophilia based on no evidence?

    And a clear distraction from this will be replies saying how is her gender more important the crime, but the OP was the one who brought it up , clearly they felt the fact she was transgender is very relevant to the crime. It's sick and clearly attempts to paint all of a minority with the same brush and needs to be called out.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Irish sentencing is weak

    Irish sentencing on sex crimes is paper ****ing thin!

    Or put another way, they was more Garda time put into the investigation than the sentence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    EEeeeeeehhh, the pedo. hows that !?

    The Brazilian transgender prostitute methhead pedo. How exotic is that!

    Something exciting is happening. Something...different.........


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Noland is very lenient on nonces

    No clue what the fact she is transgender has to do with it though. Being transgender didn't make her do it, being an evil sack of **** did. Are we really still implying in 2021 queer people are more predisposed to paedophilia based on no evidence?

    And a clear distraction from this will be replies saying how is her gender more important the crime, but the OP was the one who brought it up. It's sick and clearly attempts to paint all of a minority with the same brush and needs to be called out.

    My question is where the sentence will be served, a male or female prison ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    My question is where the sentence will be served, a male or female prison ?

    In the eyes of the state, this person is a woman in the same way as your mother is a woman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    minikin wrote: »
    Sentence: three years. I wonder how that compares to sentences handed down to males for a similar offence?

    Just 3 days ago, man given lighter sentence by Nolan for similar crimes.16 months for 272 images and 159 video of toddlers. Save the conspiracy theories.
    The issue here is Nolan's light sentencing, not the fact the criminal was a transgender woman
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/student-jailed-for-downloading-depraved-child-abuse-images-1.4518047


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    My question is where the sentence will be served, a male or female prison ?

    Check out this article to get an explaination https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/male-bodied-transgender-inmate-housed-with-women-prisoners/

    If you are abroad or use a VPN you can view this news video that was censored here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_oj-2LmExE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    “has let her application to remain in Ireland lapse and will be deported when her sentence finishes.”

    “Gee” thanks!


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