Republic of Ireland v Luxembourg - Match Thread - K.O 19.45 - RTE and Sky Sports

TheRiverman

TheRiverman wrote: »

Stephen Kenny is very unconvincing in all his interviews.

It explains a lot if he’s like this in the dressing room

gmisk

Stephen Kenny doesn't instill any confidence with that interview at all....

Is Ted Lasso available?

Stephen Kenny looks like a man who knows he is gone.

namloc1980

Broken man. Sad to see.

Loafing Oaf

Father Hernandez wrote: »

For any Kenny doubters.....

https://twitter.com/RichJolly/status/1375925649534287875?s=20

Father Hernandez

blueser

thebaz wrote: »

Sorry Kenny is just out of his depth - Coleman so much more polished and talking sense in interviews.

Looking at Kenny there, he wouldn't strike you as the type of manager to inspire players.

RoryMac

irish_goat wrote: »

Would love to know where a replacement manager is gonna pull better players from. Kenny been dealt the worst hand in probably, what, 10? 20? 30 years?

Nobody expects a new manager to pull players from anywhere, we're all aware how short on quality we are relative to previous teams but were far better than we are doing right now.

fyfe79

Is it disappointing?

breezy1985

kona wrote: »

Embarrassing, defend that ****e? Were 10 games in.

Couldn't answer his question though could you

TheRiverman

Let him go Tony.

edgecutter

edgecutter wrote: »

Jesus, did you really think this team could compete for a world cup place? You need to have a look at the squad and realise that this is only going to get worse before it gets better.

Yes I think with Serbia being our main competitors for 2nd place we have a good chance even with this squad. With the way you and other Kenny defenders go on about this squad you would think we have lads playing for Wrexham and Stockport. We were playing LUXEMBOURG. A country with 1/8th our population. I don't even want to hear the nonsense about "we wouldn't qualify anyway". Luxembourg will now likely finish above us and if they somehow win or draw against Serbia and Qatar we suddenly become minnows in all further Euro/WC draws in the future. This can always get worse before it gets better and I have no time for the Kenny and LOI fans defending this result.

gmisk

6 wrote: »

Stephen Kenny looks like a man who knows he is gone.

Yet he said the opposite
"Will they continue to have faith in you to carry this project forward"

"That's not even in question"

glenjamin

I sincerely hope his team talks are better than his interviews.

FintanMcluskey

TheRiverman wrote: »

Stephen Kenny is very unconvincing in all his interviews.

MON making shreds of Tony in interviews in the past gives an insight to how to cut out the s#it talk

eagle eye

Famous old saying 'you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear' applies here.
You can blame the manager if you want but this is down to lack of quality and all fault for me falls at the corrupt door of John Delaney.
FAI need to sort things out as regards developing our youngsters.

RonanG86

irish_goat wrote: »

Would love to know where a replacement manager is gonna pull better players from. Kenny been dealt the worst hand in probably, what, 10? 20? 30 years?

I don't think anyone's under any illusions that we have a severe lack of quality in the top third, and that farming the development of our players out to the English game has backfired and massively eroded our talent pool. (And that this was going happen was apparent to anyone with a brain for at least 15 years).

But look at the clubs Luxembourg's player play for. Generally they're at a lower level than ours. We should've had enough to beat them.

breezy1985

kona wrote: »

Embarrassing, defend that ****e? Were 10 games in.

Couldn't answer his question though could you

edgecutter

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Belgium outsource everything and it doesn't seem to be an issue for them. The UK has some of the best facilities in the world its a no brainer to use them.

They do have the best facilities, but fewer and fewer of our players are going over there and making the grade. Why is that happening?

It isn't fecking hard for the FAI to invest in an academy. They spent stupid millions lining the pockets of Delaney, Trap, O'Neill, Mick and all their assistants. Wasn't Roy Keane on over half a million a year for being an assistant manager.

If you think tonight is the worst you have haven't been paying attention to Irish football that long. There will be more of this.

Pussyhands

franglan wrote: »

Kenny's post match interviews are about as coherent as the recurring nightmare that you are doing the leaving cert Irish oral as a mid thirty year old

It's like he gets a brain freeze mid sentence and forgets everything.

whiskeyman

6 wrote: »

Stephen Kenny looks like a man who knows he is gone.

He knows he's going nowhere.
The FAI can't afford a bag of chips.... Even though they are still paying Robbie 250k to sit on his arse and do nothing.

blueser

blueser wrote: »

Looking at Kenny there, he wouldn't strike you as the type of manager to inspire players.

Very weak interview.

namloc1980

Qatar will win on Tuesday;

RonanG86

Pussyhands wrote: »

It's like he gets a brain freeze mid sentence and forgets everything.

It's one of these things that wouldn't matter a **** if the results were ok. But they're not.

thebaz

after that interview I actually think we have a worse manager than Steve Staunton, never thought I's say that.

gormdubhgorm

glenjamin wrote: »

Of course, we all know that. But this is Luxembourg. A half decent manager should be able to utilize this squad to tactically outplay this Luxembourg team. We have 5 Premier League players starting.

France drew with Luxembourg in 2017

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41138056

and recently beat and drew against the Azeri. Also beat Montenegro so they are definitely on the up. Ireland simply do not have creativity to play penetrative possession football. Plus Ireland have no decent striker to put the ball in the net.

Rhys Essien

Can everybody coming down like a ton of bricks on Stephen Kenny please give me names as to who would do any better in the current situation.

And as Roy Keane said about Olly.....GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

Agent Coulson

Is Dunphy on Twitter?


He could get Trump banned tonight if he is.

ben.schlomo

thebaz wrote: »

Cunningham is the only one proud of that performance - Dunphy was right about this muppet pundit

He doesn't don't say that, but don't let that stop a rant.

Bad result, absolutely. Poor performance second half. But we are a third tier European team, losing to a fourth tier team shouldn't be seen as embarrassing really. People need to lower their expectations given what we have available. When you're relying on the likes of Brady and Long to rescue you then you know you're in trouble. Hourihane, Connolly, McCarthy and Egan are losses in a squad bereft of talent and regular football.

johnnyryan89

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Luxembourg have outsourced their player development too.

No they haven't. From the age of 12 they've a full time academy that trains five times a week and once you turn 14 you're basically based there full time. If they had the population we had, and with the time and effort they put into developing young players they'd be up there competing for play offs.

Loafing Oaf

namloc1980 wrote: »

Qatar will win on Tuesday;

They can hardly be qatter than we were tonight...

statesaver

whiskeyman wrote: »

He knows he's going nowhere.
The FAI can't afford a bag of chips.... Even though they are still paying Robbie 250k to sit on his arse and do nothing.

Greedy bastard.

breezy1985

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes I think with Serbia being our main competitors for 2nd place we have a good chance even with this squad. With the way you and other Kenny defenders go on about this squad you would think we have lads playing for Wrexham and Stockport. We were playing LUXEMBOURG. A country with 1/8th our population. I don't even want to hear the nonsense about "we wouldn't qualify anyway". Luxembourg will now likely finish above us and if they somehow win or draw against Serbia and Qatar we suddenly become minnows in all further Euro/WC draws in the future. This can always get worse before it gets better and I have no time for the Kenny and LOI fans defending this result.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/luxembourg-s-emphatic-rise-has-created-an-unforeseen-problem-1.4521217%3fmode=amp

Read that and tell me you could Ireland put any kind of effort in. International success takes investment Jonathan Wilson has a whole book about how the 2 corelate and we have spent none for years

gmisk

thebaz wrote: »

after that interview I actually think we have a worse manager than Steve Staunton, never thought I's say that.

He's the gaffer...second captains first captains whatever....

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

Yet he said the opposite
"Will they continue to have faith in you to carry this project forward"

"That's not even in question"

I don't think he convinced anyone with that!!

glenjamin

Qatar beat Luxembourg on Wednesday. Doesn't bode well for us.

breezy1985

thebaz wrote: »

after that interview I actually think we have a worse manager than Steve Staunton, never thought I's say that.

I bet you have been dying to say it

Bob the Seducer

edgecutter wrote: »

They do have the best facilities, but fewer and fewer of our players are going over there and making the grade. Why is that happening?

It isn't fecking hard for the FAI to invest in an academy. They spent stupid millions lining the pockets of Delaney, Trap, O'Neill, Mick and all their assistants. Wasn't Roy Keane on over half a million a year for being an assistant manager.

If you think tonight is the worst you have haven't been paying attention to Irish football that long. There will be more of this.

For an insight into the mentality of the FAI, it's worth noting that before any add ons, expenses or personal rent being payed for, the FAI were handing their CEO more than three times the prize money the league champions were receiving for winning the national league.

fyfe79

namloc1980 wrote: »

Qatar will win on Tuesday;

At least it's not Oman again.

Ireland vs Qatar at an empty stadium. Somewhere. All the makings of a classic.

ziggyman17

that was a car crash of an interview, a very hard watch, Kenny looked so uncomfortable in that interview,

Father Hernandez

statesaver wrote: »

Greedy bastard.

Not his fault, no one in their right mind would say no to that money annually.

John Delaney decided to give Robbie a 4 year contract for 250k a year in 2018 and he went and worked under McCarthy.

Kenny comes in and says he wants his own team and doesn't want Robbie and now he's doing fúck all and being paid a handsome amount.

Typical bullshít management from the FAI that have left themselves with egg on their face time and time again.

gmisk

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

They can hardly be qatter than we were tonight...

Qatar are doing the equivalent of the granny rule...on steroids...they aren't that bad tbh

blueser

breezy1985 wrote: »

I bet you have been dying to say it

Is he wrong?

retalivity

Im watching on Sky, they havent had Kenny up yet.
Had Bazunu on, he's a well-spoken lad for 19, not the usual drivel you'd hear from some idiots in the PL at that age.

breezy1985

gmisk wrote: »

Qatar are doing the equivalent of the granny rule...on steroids...they aren't that bad tbh

Started importing South Americans into the country for years now to naturalize for this world cup

Nalz

retalivity wrote: »

Im watching on Sky, they havent had Kenny up yet.
Had Bazunu on, he's a well-spoken lad for 19, not the usual drivel you'd hear from some idiots in the PL at that age.

Idiots.


Wow

Francie Barrett

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

No they haven't. From the age of 12 they've a full time academy that trains five times a week and once you turn 14 you're basically based there full time. If they had the population we had, and with the time and effort they put into developing young players they'd be up there competing for play offs.

Loads of foreign born players and players who've been based with foreign clubs at a young age.

gmisk

breezy1985 wrote: »

Started importing South Americans into the country for years now to naturalize for this world cup

Not just south Americans but yep...that was my point

breezy1985

blueser wrote: »

Is he wrong?

Yes. Stan done worse with a way better team

kona

tayto lover wrote: »

Answer the questions then.

Ok.

Roy keane
Brian kerr
Stephen staunton
Eoin hand.

Lets see who can get a win in 10 games.

Fr Tod Umptious

Blanco100 wrote: »

What we do at senior level should be an absolute irrelevance for next few years until we get our underage set up and league in order.

We have outsourced development of young players to the UK, so any chance of changing the senior teams "style" is pure aspirational pie in the sky guff.

He's out of his depth but leave him at it. Invest in the game at home instead of another big money manager who will try and cobble together a hard to beat XI who will admirably fail to qualify, whilst lining his pockets with little interest in football in Ireland.

But that nothing new.

It's been the case for decades.

The only time Ireland were any good was because of a perfect storm of good players with Irish links and a no nonsense manager.

People have been on about developing the league of Ireland and building academies for years and it never gets done, because the FAI can never afford it and the lure of the UK, regardless of how poor the quality might be, is irresistible to young lads.