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Anyone ordered a prebuilt with RTX3080 from PCSpecialist.ie?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    If you out the Lian Li on its side like you have in the render it'll choke the 3 fans on the side completely and render them useless other than just circulating air inside the case just fyi

    Forget to render it with Capita Feet like my Air540. DOH! No choking of fans but it'd look even more out of place in this location if it were even taller. I'm playing around with alternative positioning in Sketchup right now. O11 conventionally upright on the left corner of desk etc. (SKetchup ideal for this use-case)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


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    The last 2 are the same Desk config from different angles and this is basically how the desk is right now except with the O11 Dynamic Standing Conventionally upright where my White Air 540 currently is and media server black air 540 standing conventional upright as opposed to on its side like in Photo's of my setup. Ironically I think the one that involves no reconfig of the desk, no extra Ikea parts and no work is the one I actually prefer the most I think. Just less cluttered.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Calibos wrote: »
    Like I said already, I was going for its looks primarily because its ultimate destination (after I finished Mining Crypto on the main Rig) was to a Media server where price/performance ratio nor absolute performance didn't matter. Its moot now though. Thought it would fit in the Server case but it won't after measuring. The idea I have in my head now for the Server is a Noctua C14 with a custom RGB lit acrylic duct system encapsulating the C14 fins to channel air unconventionally through it from and where I need it to go.
    Just an FYI but air channel ducts are relatively pointless.
    All that really matters is the speed of the fans (airflow) & quality/size of the heatsink.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Calibos wrote: »
    Upgraded the CPU to a 12 core 5900x as I saw someone from Dublin who ordered a 5900x/3090 system from PCS about week before me have his Rig go to the 'Building' Stage already. The 5900X showing as pre-order for me was the only reason I didn't spend the extra €100 for it in the first place.

    Also switched the 512GB Samsung 980 Pro NVME Gen 4 to a 1TB and changed from 32GB of 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 to 16GB of 3600mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4. I would have selected 32GB of it but the configurator won't give me the option of 4x 8GB sticks of this only 2x 16GB. I want all DRAM slots populated, so thats why I specced 2x8GB 3600mhz and I'll pick up another 2x8GB from OCUK.

    How did you make changes after placing the order? I have an order made yesterday and realised that the motherboard reset back to the base one at some point and want to change it up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    How did you make changes after placing the order? I have an order made yesterday and realised that the motherboard reset back to the base one at some point and want to change it up?

    log onto the site..click into your orders and you see an option to amend order.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,648 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Calibos wrote: »
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    The last 2 are the same Desk config from different angles and this is basically how the desk is right now except with the O11 Dynamic Standing Conventionally upright where my White Air 540 currently is and media server black air 540 standing conventional upright as opposed to on its side like in Photo's of my setup. Ironically I think the one that involves no reconfig of the desk, no extra Ikea parts and no work is the one I actually prefer the most I think. Just less cluttered.

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    I'm a big fan of minimal desks and getting the most space possible. Also case standing upright is probably a bit better for dust management as it won't fall and rest on the mobo as easily


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Giblet wrote: »
    No reason to have all of your DIMM slots populated, max dual channel anyway.

    Even Youtube is getting in on my 'Confirmation Bias' :D A load of vids hit my recommended feed (I never googled the subject) about the best memory config for Zen 3 Ryzen 7/9 and the consensus across all the vids including Gamers Nexus is that while the performance/FPS gains are small topping out at 5%, the best Price/Performance/Bang/Buck/Future-proof (outside of specific use-cases) sweetspot is drumroll.......32GB of 3600mhz CL16 in the form of 4x 8GB Dimms (4x8GB better than 2x16GB due to Single-v-Dual Ranked Memory scheduling. ie. a load of tech mumbo jumbo I don't understand). BIAS CONFIRMED!! :D:D
    Giblet wrote: »
    It's just if you are gaming, the 5900x gets quite hot on stock cooling, more heat = less boost.
    I have a similar setup to you, you have to be mindful of tower coolers with the X570-F + Corsair Vengeance. I use a Noctua D-15S myself, which is slightly offset and has clearance for both the GFX Card PCI slot and the RAM. Case clearance also applies.

    I'd just install the AIO.

    The purpose of the Mining 24/7 for the next 6 months or so till Ethereum GPU Mining bites the dust, is to pay off as much of the cost of the GPU/PC as possible. Not sure I want to risk those expensive components to an AIO leak. That would be the ultimate irony. Its looking like I will be doing a scaled down Media Server anyway due to the Media Server Air540 case needing to go on the extreme right of the desk thanks to my Sketchup visualisations. So the option of the Corsair A500 Tower Air Cooler 'Swapsies' is back in play as I'd be scaling down the server to 9x 3.5" bays with allows my spare 4670K mITX combo and an A500 cooler to fit alongside the drives in the conventional location in the left side of the case. (Remember the choice of A500 is purely aesthetic).

    Getting back to Crypto-mining and Tax implications for a moment...

    Given we are approaching the end-game period for Crypto-mining on GPU's and given my only goal is to pay off as much of the cost of the GPU as possible during this GPU mining Twilight period, would it be fair to say that mining on a single 3090 is unlikely to yield enough 'coin' in the last few months remaining where there would likely be enough of a swing in Crypto value to yield a Capital gains above the €1270 exemption limit. Unless I am misunderstanding things, if at best I could mine €1500 worth of coin in the next 6 months wouldn't Ethereum/Bitcoin (whatever I am paid in for mining) have to nearly double in value during that period to generate me a Capital Gain on the 'investment' higher than the €1270 exemption limit?? How like is that kind of Ethereum value swing?? So in my particular scenario of non professionally mining on a single GPU in the twilight months of GPU mining, surely I don't need to worry about CGT at all??

    Following on from that, again I may be misunderstanding things, but if the Hardware Cost of Mining can be written off against the profits of mining wrt to income tax liability and I only want to and given this is the twilight period of GPU mining can only mine for 6 more months best case, I simply can't mine enough to profit over and above the hardware cost of the GPU and thus the GPU cost write off will nearly 100% likely be more than the profit earned. Hence no Income Tax liability either.

    Given all that, surely its only professional Miners and Crypto investors that need to worry about Tax implications and I have nothing to worry about at all given my particular scenario and reason for mining and when I am starting mining?? ie. In these Twilight months of GPU Mining its incredibly unlikely I can mine enough or profit enough from crypto value swings to reach a threshold where I am liable for either CGT or Income Tax related to the mining. Effectively Crypto Mining will be 'un-profitable' for me and if I was getting into this to 'make money' I'd be insane because I wouldn't even cover my 'Costs'. However thats not a concern for me because I bought this GPU for VR gaming and 4K60 streaming first and foremost and any 'Income' I make from the GPU in the next few months is 'Gravy' and offsets some of the cost of my High Performance Gaming addiction.

    [EDIT]

    Then again, all this could be moot and small time homebrew hobbiest Mining might be as dead as a Dodo as soon as July according to Boardsie 'Harmless' who posted this over on the nVidia thread. If I didn't get the PC till the first week or so of May then would there be any point in starting to mine for a couple of months?
    If EIP 1559(in July) hits miners really hard and they don't have an alt coin to switch to you could see cards going up on the second hand market at closer to RRP. There will still be a shortage but second hand prices could calm down.

    However crypto is on another bull run and if it is valuable enough then it may be worth continuing to mine ethereum even after EIP 1559.

    EIP 1559 + massive crypto crash is what gamers should be hoping for in July. It would free up some cards as small time miners could call it quits at that point. I don't think the massive warehouse full of cards will be folding so soon, they can still turn a profit with the very low electricity prices in the countries they are in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Again, I have to ask: why the Corsair A500?
    There are better options like Scythe Fuma 2 or be quiet Dark Rock 4 that cool better, are quieter & will fit more easily while costing less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Again, I have to ask: why the Corsair A500?
    There are better options like Scythe Fuma 2 or be quiet Dark Rock 4 that cool better, are quieter & will fit more easily while costing less.

    A E S T H E T I C S !!!

    :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    The speaker models in the Sketchup 3D warehouse were the old KEF 2005's but look very similar to my newer model E305's. Realised my E305 Subwoofer is shaped like the speakers, so just scaled up a copy of one of the speakers and added some feet. Refreshed my memory about how to project a texture onto a curved surface, hence the Monitor. FOund out how to change the colour of the wood grain laminate texture so the desk colour now is a more acurate almost black brown. Most important change is realising that my epson printer fits within the width of the Malm Bedside Locker units. I can easily gut the top drawer and fit hinges to the drawer front so it swings down rather than pulls out as a drawer. Thus I can get the printer off the Desktop freeing up space and re-opening other desk configuration options and yet have it easily accessible when needed but hidden when not in use.

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    Thats the cleanest least cluttered/cramped effort so far but Its that fecking 5.1 amp though! I really want to find a way to lower that center back wall piece level with the rest of the wall, lower the center speaker and monitor and have that shelf under the monitor lower down on the smaller capita legs. With no 5.1 amp right behind the keyboard I can slide it deeper into the tabletop. Just cannot find a place for the amp though other than where it is right now. It and the components on top of it and its shelf look odd in any of the other sketchup visualisations.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


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    :D:D:D:D

    Order confirmed to have entered the Building Stage. The extra markup on some of the components like the 5900X and RTX3090 was worth it to me for the expediting of this Rig by months or a year as nVidias recent statement shows this GPU drought isn't ending till next year in 2022.

    Probably have the PC on my Desk next week!!

    Its caught me on the hop though. I haven't ordered the other parts I need from OCUK yet as I wasn't expecting my PCS prebuilt for several more weeks. ie. AIO, Fans etc Can't do it today but will get onto that tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    That is quick - I am waiting on RTX3080 + 5950X, so if I bumped my 3080 to a 3090 I could get delivery sooner?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭rob808


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    That is quick - I am waiting on RTX3080 + 5950X, so if I bumped my 3080 to a 3090 I could get delivery sooner?
    How much did your PC order cost you if don't mind me asking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭blackbullet


    i drooling over this ill have a set like this some day but there is a shortage of graphics cards now folks i bet blender would scream full hd renders with volumes on this re u doing gaming 3d stuff dude.did u do an y test renders.killier set up


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    rob808 wrote: »
    How much did your PC order cost you if don't mind me asking.

    It started off at 3K (Euros) but is now closer to 3300 once the folks on the forums started recommending things...

    TBH I will have to ditch the 3080 if I want to get it built this year I suspect...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,635 ✭✭✭Inviere


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    TBH I will have to ditch the 3080 if I want to get it built this year I suspect...

    That's insane being only April right now. Is a 3080 build through these guys unlikely to happen before next year? I know it's impossible to say, but a fully paid for pc with an 8 month+ lead time is insane


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Inviere wrote: »
    That's insane being only April right now. Is a 3080 build through these guys unlikely to happen before next year? I know it's impossible to say, but a fully paid for pc with an 8 month+ lead time is insane

    Its probably an exaggeration, but there seems to be quite a few folks waiting over 100 days for their builds...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    The larger PC makers seem to be getting preference in terms of supply. Hence the explosion in reviews of them online. Then people modding them to improve their abysmal cooling. The larger makers seem to be taking even more short cuts and cost savings. Some of the worst proprietary system designs we've seen in years at the moment.

    At least with the smaller makers you can get prebuilt that has decent components and chassis. Just going to take longer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    i drooling over this ill have a set like this some day but there is a shortage of graphics cards now folks i bet blender would scream full hd renders with volumes on this re u doing gaming 3d stuff dude.did u do an y test renders.killier set up

    Were you asking me or Schmoo2K?

    If me. I haven't gotten the PC yet to test renders on it. My latest post is about how its gone to the building stage weeks before I was expecting. I've tinkered with Sketchup on and off for years and a trial of Indigo Renderer but I do plan to learn more than the bare basics and start modeling my house to plan interior design and renovations etc. Signed up to the EPIC gamestore a few years ago, not for any game but because they were giving away Twin-Motion Real-Time Renderer with every signup for a while. I can't wait to learn more Sketchup and Twin Motion and render the house and then explore it in VR which Twin-Motion supports. ie. Pre-Viz in VR any ideas or plans I have for the house.

    No professional use-case if thats what you mean though. I am but a humble shop-keep.

    Main use for the PC and duties it takes over from my current 6700K&GTX1080 rig you see in the photo's, will be PCVR gaming, MS Flightsim 2020, pCARS2, HL Alyx etc. In addition I want it to 4k60 Steam in-home streaming of pancake monitor games to other other rooms in the house and a sibling who lives next door to me (on my wired gigabit network though) All TV's and bro have 4K60 video decoding capable KODI boxes (Odroid N2's)

    I was going to build/order something more modest for myself last Autumn when Zen 3 and the 3000 series GPU's arrived and had already started accumulating parts for a build I had promised my brother with my 'Cast off' 6700K, Deepcool Assassin 3 cooler and an RTX2060 I bought him at MSRP back in early 2020 for the purpose. Needless to say Zen 3 and GPU's were impossible to find, my build and thus his build went on hold. Then a few weeks ago after some more research I decided that instead I'd build/buy a single once in a lifetime spare no expense build instead of 2 more modest builds because Steam in-home streaming and Oculus Quest 2 Wireless PCVR would mean both myself and my brother in houses nextdoor to each other could both use this uber build from the comfort of our own homes and likely never clash because we work in the family business and if he is on I am off and visa versa so never the twain shall meet....and try to log into steam at the same time.:D

    As I mentioned earlier, all made even more palatable by the fact that the secondhand GPU market has gone insane too so I can get about €1000 for my spare GTX1080 and RTX2060.....and Crypto-mining for the next few months will combine to pretty much pay the entire insane cost of the RTX3090 I specced in my rig. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Giblet wrote: »
    It's just if you are gaming, the 5900x gets quite hot on stock cooling, more heat = less boost.
    I have a similar setup to you, you have to be mindful of tower coolers with the X570-F + Corsair Vengeance. I use a Noctua D-15S myself, which is slightly offset and has clearance for both the GFX Card PCI slot and the RAM. Case clearance also applies.

    I'd just install the AIO.

    Did some more googling. Previously I just took the first result as gospel. ie. dont run an AIO 24/7.

    However reading all the forum posts on all the google hits on the first page and it actually seems the vast majority of respondents were saying not to worry about running an AIO 24/7 with lots of people posting anecdotal evidence about never turning their PC’s off and their AIO running for years 24/7. Saying that AIO’s are incredibly reliable these days with long warranties and in all likelihood, the worst that happens is the pump fails and your PC shuts down when the CPU hits its Thermal Limit.

    With that in mind, I feel better about potentially Mining with this PC in the non gaming hours of the day and night while fitting the 360mm AIO day one. I also feel better about running my Corsair H110GT 280mm AIO from my current PC in the Media Server 24/7 which solves all my headaches and head-scratching about where and how to mount an Air Cooler within height constraints my particular plans have imposed on me.

    Both my Overclockers order for additional parts for this new PC (EG. Corsair H150i Elite Cappellix AIO that PCSpecialist dont sell) and my PCSpecialist order should ship today, so I should have everything by Wednesday. Amazon delivered a 7” LCD panel for a sensor Panel mod I have planned for the PC yesterday Sunday 1 day after ordering. That Irish Amazon fulfilment warehouse must be up and running alright because all tracking checkpoints were in Swords. More stuff coming from Amazon today. Visa card balance taking an absolute hammering over the last 2 weeks LOL. :D:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Don’t hold your breath for your order from pc specialist,
    It’s taking fedex 2 weeks to deliver because they ship it over to France , then back again to then UK.
    I’m just hoping they don’t decide to repeat the trick


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Blazer wrote: »
    Don’t hold your breath for your order from pc specialist,
    It’s taking fedex 2 weeks to deliver because they ship it over to France , then back again to then UK.
    I’m just hoping they don’t decide to repeat the trick

    Was in Ireland wee hours of Thursday, scheduled for deliver before 6pm Thurs but I never trusted that anyway. Updated this morning to cleared customs but delivery scheduled for Monday which I do trust.

    That France detour thing isn't FEDEX policy, my thoery is it was a few Irish lads unfortunately caught up in a scenario where Fedex had space on Stansted to Charles de Gaulle to Dublin Passenger flights before a available space on a direct Stansted Dublin flight but no sooner to they complete the UK France leg then Ireland impose Hotel Quarantine thing on France and a load of flights are cancelled with no free cargo space on the remaining Paris Dublin flights, so those packages had to go back to the UK to wait for available space again on a direct flight.

    My tracking shows no Dirty weekend trip to Paris :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I don't need to worry about how to fit the printer and 5.1 amp on the desk anymore. They and VR HMD storage is moving to the SimRig Cubby Hole (which ironically was designed for 5.1 amps etc and we put in years ago when this Attic conversion was originally going to be a Home Cinema room).

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    Why you may ask??

    Because I just backed/Ordered this on Kickstarter for September delivery!! :D:D



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,979 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    And I thought my bro's iRacing setup was ridiculous... (Although his Steering wheel has 20nm of torque to tear your hands off if set to 100%)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Giblet wrote: »
    And I thought my bro's iRacing setup was ridiculous... (Although his Steering wheel has 20nm of torque to tear your hands off if set to 100%)

    Its lucky your brother nor I have a real expensive hobby like....Golf :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭brady12


    Where's best place buy a pre built gaming pc? These guys ? I no absolutely 0 about it so prob be better for me buy pre built


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    brady12 wrote: »
    Where's best place buy a pre built gaming pc? These guys ? I no absolutely 0 about it so prob be better for me buy pre built

    You're best making a new thread outlining what you want and people will throw few recommendations together!


    @Calibos any sign of yours yet, any ETA?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    brady12 wrote: »
    Where's best place buy a pre built gaming pc? These guys ? I no absolutely 0 about it so prob be better for me buy pre built

    If you look on Done Deal there are quite a few "last generation" gaming machines that are quite good value (and some that are not) - IMO Start a new thread asking about those (especially if you want a machine in the next 20 days)...

    The sad fact is, if you want a 2021 PC at RRP - its simply not possible currently (as an aside - one of my house mates got a 3070 drop from Linus Tech Tips last night - just throwing that in...)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Shlippery wrote: »
    You're best making a new thread outlining what you want and people will throw few recommendations together!


    @Calibos any sign of yours yet, any ETA?

    Didn’t update because it was still in its shipping box. Arrived April 27th. Was still waiting on some bits from Amazon and OCUK before starting the rebuild. Then unforeseen circumstances robbed me of the days off I was going to re-build it during. Then took it out of its box to start and realised there were a few more unforeseen small bits and pieces needed for a tidy build and I decided to wait for them too before starting so I didn't have to undo my planned clean cable management.

    So currently waiting on a USB3 header 90deg adapter because those infernal USB3 Mobo connector is blocking my Vertical GPU mount. Also bought some M2 heatsinks and a pair of Noctua 80mm fans for the backplate of my GPU to keep Memory temps in check should I decided to mine with the card for a few months Adapter cables to connect the Strimer RGB cables and Case RGB Strip to the Corsair Commander Pro so that they can also be controlled by iCUE.

    Small cheap stuff.......but no point in starting the rebuild and cable management until I have them. I’ve waited this long, I can wait another few days..

    Not really worth taking photos till its done. Basically Case, mobo, cpu, gpu, ram and PSU was PCS but I am adding all the rest of the pretty stuff like AIO, RGB fans etc. So as shipped from PCS it was a pretty empty looking large case. Not their fault as thats what I ordered because they didnt have the exact AIO and fans etc that I wanted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭brady12


    Do dell do finance ? More I look into it being a noob. Be easier over pay buy a pre built from pc specialist using finance option then trying build one in current climate or pay dell a big lump sum


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